:lol:you know none of which you just wrote to be fact.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:44 pmI’m sure he did. The cardinals probably reviewed his medical assessments saw the problem saw with surgery it would be a correctable so pulled the trigger I don’t think it’s that big of a dealredbirdfan51 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:39 pm I was aware of the blisters issues. Did Bloom know that Clarke would need surgery prior to the trade?
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“Based on reports surrounding the November 2025 trade, the St. Louis Cardinals were aware of Brandon Clarke's injury history, specifically recurring finger blisters and numbness, but the specific surgery to address an aneurysm in his arm was a "surprise" development that occurred after he was acquired.Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:46 pm:lol:you know none of which you just wrote to be fact.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:44 pmI’m sure he did. The cardinals probably reviewed his medical assessments saw the problem saw with surgery it would be a correctable so pulled the trigger I don’t think it’s that big of a dealredbirdfan51 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:39 pm I was aware of the blisters issues. Did Bloom know that Clarke would need surgery prior to the trade?![]()
Trade Knowledge: The Cardinals knew they were taking a risk on a pitcher with "troubling" injury history when they acquired him from the Red Sox. He had missed significant time in 2025 due to a recurrence of finger blisters.
The Surgery: It was determined after the trade by the Cardinals' medical staff that these issues were caused by an aneurysm in his left arm. He subsequently underwent surgery to fix this, aiming to alleviate the numbness and improve his command.”
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So you don’t think teams review players medicals before they Trade or sign them? Lol you’re quite the idiot if you don’t think they do because news flash they always doGoldfan wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:46 pm:lol:you know none of which you just wrote to be fact.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:44 pmI’m sure he did. The cardinals probably reviewed his medical assessments saw the problem saw with surgery it would be a correctable so pulled the trigger I don’t think it’s that big of a dealredbirdfan51 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:39 pm I was aware of the blisters issues. Did Bloom know that Clarke would need surgery prior to the trade?![]()
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Scroll up EinsteinOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:50 pmSo you don’t think teams review players medicals before they Trade or sign them? Lol you’re quite the idiot if you don’t think they do because news flash they always doGoldfan wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:46 pm:lol:you know none of which you just wrote to be fact.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:44 pmI’m sure he did. The cardinals probably reviewed his medical assessments saw the problem saw with surgery it would be a correctable so pulled the trigger I don’t think it’s that big of a dealredbirdfan51 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:39 pm I was aware of the blisters issues. Did Bloom know that Clarke would need surgery prior to the trade?![]()
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Re: Brandon Clarke surgery
Cards signed Carpenter knowing he was going to miss the entire first season with them
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So they did know about the numbness and blister issues just not that surgery could correct seems like the cardinals lucked out on itGoldfan wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:53 pmScroll up EinsteinOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:50 pmSo you don’t think teams review players medicals before they Trade or sign them? Lol you’re quite the idiot if you don’t think they do because news flash they always doGoldfan wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:46 pm:lol:you know none of which you just wrote to be fact.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:44 pmI’m sure he did. The cardinals probably reviewed his medical assessments saw the problem saw with surgery it would be a correctable so pulled the trigger I don’t think it’s that big of a dealredbirdfan51 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:39 pm I was aware of the blisters issues. Did Bloom know that Clarke would need surgery prior to the trade?![]()
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Re: Brandon Clarke surgery
None of the three were providing production equal to or exceeding their contract, though Contreras was close and actually probably is meeting his contract value. Arenado clearly sucks and Gray is a #3 starter making $40M. Which of the three cardinals traded this offseason are you complaining to aaron judge exactly?Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:53 pmThis peculiar fascination with “big contracts” and NTCwoofy25 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:42 pmMaybe bc the guys the cardinals traded weren’t worth much. Lottery tickets and 4/5 starters seem like a fine return for big contracts with ntcs and only one guy who was any goodJuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:13 pm Good grief. So the best return Bloom has acquired from his trades is a guy who is already shutdown from ST?
So far Bloom has acquired:
May - injury history galore.
Clarke - Already on the shelf.
Fitts - Meh
Dobbins - Coming of ACL tear.
And a couple unimpressive relief pitchers.
Not a lot to be excited about. Rebuild or reshuffle?
If the player is worth the contract he’s worth the contract. They provide production equal or exceeding the contract. If Judge was traded would you say the Yankees should pay half of his contract because he has “BIG Contract and NTC”. What is wrong with people??
If you are somehow suggesting ntcs and big contracts with little production aren’t obstacles, I truly don’t understand how that is possibly an opinion anyone would seriously hold.
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I’ve asked before….what would WC and Gray get if they were FA this offseason?woofy25 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:59 pmNone of the three were providing production equal to or exceeding their contract, though Contreras was close and actually probably is meeting his contract value. Arenado clearly sucks and Gray is a #3 starter making $40M. Which of the three cardinals traded this offseason are you complaining to aaron judge exactly?Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:53 pmThis peculiar fascination with “big contracts” and NTCwoofy25 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:42 pmMaybe bc the guys the cardinals traded weren’t worth much. Lottery tickets and 4/5 starters seem like a fine return for big contracts with ntcs and only one guy who was any goodJuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:13 pm Good grief. So the best return Bloom has acquired from his trades is a guy who is already shutdown from ST?
So far Bloom has acquired:
May - injury history galore.
Clarke - Already on the shelf.
Fitts - Meh
Dobbins - Coming of ACL tear.
And a couple unimpressive relief pitchers.
Not a lot to be excited about. Rebuild or reshuffle?
If the player is worth the contract he’s worth the contract. They provide production equal or exceeding the contract. If Judge was traded would you say the Yankees should pay half of his contract because he has “BIG Contract and NTC”. What is wrong with people??
If you are somehow suggesting ntcs and big contracts with little production aren’t obstacles, I truly don’t understand how that is possibly an opinion anyone would seriously hold.
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He spent years saying they were stupid contracts and they weren’t worth the contracts now he’s saying why wouldn’t bloom get a team to take on their full contracts they are worth it lol he’s a clownwoofy25 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:59 pmNone of the three were providing production equal to or exceeding their contract, though Contreras was close and actually probably is meeting his contract value. Arenado clearly sucks and Gray is a #3 starter making $40M. Which of the three cardinals traded this offseason are you complaining to aaron judge exactly?Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:53 pmThis peculiar fascination with “big contracts” and NTCwoofy25 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:42 pmMaybe bc the guys the cardinals traded weren’t worth much. Lottery tickets and 4/5 starters seem like a fine return for big contracts with ntcs and only one guy who was any goodJuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:13 pm Good grief. So the best return Bloom has acquired from his trades is a guy who is already shutdown from ST?
So far Bloom has acquired:
May - injury history galore.
Clarke - Already on the shelf.
Fitts - Meh
Dobbins - Coming of ACL tear.
And a couple unimpressive relief pitchers.
Not a lot to be excited about. Rebuild or reshuffle?
If the player is worth the contract he’s worth the contract. They provide production equal or exceeding the contract. If Judge was traded would you say the Yankees should pay half of his contract because he has “BIG Contract and NTC”. What is wrong with people??
If you are somehow suggesting ntcs and big contracts with little production aren’t obstacles, I truly don’t understand how that is possibly an opinion anyone would seriously hold.
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only cards talk says a guy who in qualified starters ranks as a lower 1 in one category , and a near the top of 2 level pitchers in the other two categories, in strikeouts, innings pitched , and era in 2025.... somehow equals a 3 level starter lol.
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You gave up on that “Bloom knowing Clarke required surgery before trade” thread….Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 22:06 pmHe spent years saying they were stupid contracts and they weren’t worth the contracts now he’s saying why wouldn’t bloom get a team to take on their full contracts they are worth it lol he’s a clownwoofy25 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:59 pmNone of the three were providing production equal to or exceeding their contract, though Contreras was close and actually probably is meeting his contract value. Arenado clearly sucks and Gray is a #3 starter making $40M. Which of the three cardinals traded this offseason are you complaining to aaron judge exactly?Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:53 pmThis peculiar fascination with “big contracts” and NTCwoofy25 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:42 pmMaybe bc the guys the cardinals traded weren’t worth much. Lottery tickets and 4/5 starters seem like a fine return for big contracts with ntcs and only one guy who was any goodJuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:13 pm Good grief. So the best return Bloom has acquired from his trades is a guy who is already shutdown from ST?
So far Bloom has acquired:
May - injury history galore.
Clarke - Already on the shelf.
Fitts - Meh
Dobbins - Coming of ACL tear.
And a couple unimpressive relief pitchers.
Not a lot to be excited about. Rebuild or reshuffle?
If the player is worth the contract he’s worth the contract. They provide production equal or exceeding the contract. If Judge was traded would you say the Yankees should pay half of his contract because he has “BIG Contract and NTC”. What is wrong with people??
If you are somehow suggesting ntcs and big contracts with little production aren’t obstacles, I truly don’t understand how that is possibly an opinion anyone would seriously hold.
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Ole Woofy and Ozzie have done a pretty good job of showing their (bleep) this evening. All their incorrect statements are easily researched, but they make up for their Idiocy with juvenile confidence…..Clubmaker2 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 22:10 pm only cards talk says a guy who in qualified starters ranks as a lower 1 in one category , and a near the top of 2 level pitchers in the other two categories, in strikeouts, innings pitched , and era in 2025.... somehow equals a 3 level starter lol.
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I have no doubt he’s a diehard fan. Except for the select Trolls who are just here to annoy, most here are diehard fans.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 22:06 pmHe spent years saying they were stupid contracts and they weren’t worth the contracts now he’s saying why wouldn’t bloom get a team to take on their full contracts they are worth it lol he’s a clownwoofy25 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:59 pmNone of the three were providing production equal to or exceeding their contract, though Contreras was close and actually probably is meeting his contract value. Arenado clearly sucks and Gray is a #3 starter making $40M. Which of the three cardinals traded this offseason are you complaining to aaron judge exactly?Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:53 pmThis peculiar fascination with “big contracts” and NTCwoofy25 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:42 pmMaybe bc the guys the cardinals traded weren’t worth much. Lottery tickets and 4/5 starters seem like a fine return for big contracts with ntcs and only one guy who was any goodJuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:13 pm Good grief. So the best return Bloom has acquired from his trades is a guy who is already shutdown from ST?
So far Bloom has acquired:
May - injury history galore.
Clarke - Already on the shelf.
Fitts - Meh
Dobbins - Coming of ACL tear.
And a couple unimpressive relief pitchers.
Not a lot to be excited about. Rebuild or reshuffle?
If the player is worth the contract he’s worth the contract. They provide production equal or exceeding the contract. If Judge was traded would you say the Yankees should pay half of his contract because he has “BIG Contract and NTC”. What is wrong with people??
If you are somehow suggesting ntcs and big contracts with little production aren’t obstacles, I truly don’t understand how that is possibly an opinion anyone would seriously hold.
And diehard fans “vent” out of frustration.
I readily admit to doing it on occasion and CT provides a healthy outlet to do so.
But....even when venting most here can remain positive and bounce back the next night as it is our competitive nature.
Unfortunately....you also have a select few who continuously wallow in negativity.
Personally.....it’s one thing to be “passionate” but if an entertainment “outlet” made me miserable on a daily basis I’d seek alternative entertainment.
Preferably something you have more “control” over since they lack the mental and emotional “toughness”
to handle losing. And let’s face it....all pro teams have their ups and downs.
PS- I’d also contact Ringling Brothers. They might send you a free Suit if you’re going to portray a Clown?
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Poor circulation means the skin is brittle and easily damaged, plus the numbness, which he reported, causes issues with grip which very well could have resulted in excessive pressure to assure movement. Notice how diabetics are constantly told to watch the condition of their feet. Poor circulation had a lot to do with the blisters and with the healing of the blisters.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 14:51 pmNo. Blisters are formed from friction, heat and moistureDwaininAztec wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 14:47 pmThe circulatory issue did indeed contribute to the damage which caused blistering and was keeping the blisters from healing properly. This caused the extended time off while the blisters healed.
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+1smilinjoefission wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:57 pm Cards signed Carpenter knowing he was going to miss the entire first season with them
Excellent analogy
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Gray would get substantially less than $40M/yr, probably half that or less and wouldn’t cost prospects and wouldn’t get a ntc. WC might get about $18Mish but wouldn’t cost prospects and wouldn’t get a ntc attached. Both would likely be 2yr deals. Maybe WC could get three.Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 22:04 pmI’ve asked before….what would WC and Gray get if they were FA this offseason?woofy25 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 21:59 pmNone of the three were providing production equal to or exceeding their contract, though Contreras was close and actually probably is meeting his contract value. Arenado clearly sucks and Gray is a #3 starter making $40M. Which of the three cardinals traded this offseason are you complaining to aaron judge exactly?Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:53 pmThis peculiar fascination with “big contracts” and NTCwoofy25 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:42 pmMaybe bc the guys the cardinals traded weren’t worth much. Lottery tickets and 4/5 starters seem like a fine return for big contracts with ntcs and only one guy who was any goodJuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 13:13 pm Good grief. So the best return Bloom has acquired from his trades is a guy who is already shutdown from ST?
So far Bloom has acquired:
May - injury history galore.
Clarke - Already on the shelf.
Fitts - Meh
Dobbins - Coming of ACL tear.
And a couple unimpressive relief pitchers.
Not a lot to be excited about. Rebuild or reshuffle?
If the player is worth the contract he’s worth the contract. They provide production equal or exceeding the contract. If Judge was traded would you say the Yankees should pay half of his contract because he has “BIG Contract and NTC”. What is wrong with people??
If you are somehow suggesting ntcs and big contracts with little production aren’t obstacles, I truly don’t understand how that is possibly an opinion anyone would seriously hold.
You didn’t ask about Arenado for some reason, but it seems like he’d get under $10M which means he may very well have just retired.