Bloom on releasing Arenado..”it’s not an option”

[Adam2]

Well I don't see the motivation to release him since there aren't any other 3B challenging for playing time. I think the team can move forward with their plans whether they have Arenado or not.

The Cardinals have multiple players who are better at 3b right now than N/A.
That was true throughout the 2025 season as well.

Who?

You can't name one

Statistically, Gorman, Donovan, and even Fermin were all far more productive than N/A in 2025.
Next year, Wetherholt will join that list - at a minimum.
Though unlikely, it would not be a shock if 2 more did as well.

Statistically Gorman is a zero war player at third base.

NA is well above that and still has a higher ceiling.

JJW is a 2B. And Fermin is not a starter in any reality.

WAR is not a stat.
It is the exact opposite of a stat.
Statistically, Gorman, Donovan, and even Fermin were all far more productive than N/A in 2025.

bull[shirt]. I posted how many games they started... lol:

You post a wrong statement. No facts

Of the 4 players on the roster able to play 3b, it is statistically a fact that N/A was the least productive with the bat.
N/A had an OPS of .666 - and produced a run in each 4.01 AB's.
Gorman also had an OPS of .666 - but produced a run in each 3.93 AB's, which was slightly better.
Donovan had an OPS at .775.
Fermin's OPS was .793.
That is not a knock against N/A, nor an endorsement of the other three.
It is simply a fact.
And yes, I would expect Gorman, Donovan, Wetherholt, and even Fermin to have a better bat than N/A in 2026.

The larger issues we have here, is that we are being forced at the moment to discuss Fermin as a factor. It just shows the true lack of options.

[Melville]

Well I don't see the motivation to release him since there aren't any other 3B challenging for playing time. I think the team can move forward with their plans whether they have Arenado or not.

The Cardinals have multiple players who are better at 3b right now than N/A.
That was true throughout the 2025 season as well.

Who?

You can't name one

Statistically, Gorman, Donovan, and even Fermin were all far more productive than N/A in 2025.
Next year, Wetherholt will join that list - at a minimum.
Though unlikely, it would not be a shock if 2 more did as well.

Statistically Gorman is a zero war player at third base.

NA is well above that and still has a higher ceiling.

JJW is a 2B. And Fermin is not a starter in any reality.

WAR is not a stat.
It is the exact opposite of a stat.
Statistically, Gorman, Donovan, and even Fermin were all far more productive than N/A in 2025.

bull[shirt]. I posted how many games they started... lol:

You post a wrong statement. No facts

Of the 4 players on the roster able to play 3b, it is statistically a fact that N/A was the least productive with the bat.
N/A had an OPS of .666 - and produced a run in each 4.01 AB's.
Gorman also had an OPS of .666 - but produced a run in each 3.93 AB's, which was slightly better.
Donovan had an OPS at .775.
Fermin's OPS was .793.
That is not a knock against N/A, nor an endorsement of the other three.
It is simply a fact.
And yes, I would expect Gorman, Donovan, Wetherholt, and even Fermin to have a better bat than N/A in 2026.

The larger issues we have here, is that we are being forced at the moment to discuss Fermin as a factor. It just shows the true lack of options.

No, Fermin is not an option - yet.
I was simply correctly stating that STL had 3 players capable of playing 3b who were more productive in 2025 than N/A was, and there will undoubtedly be a 4th in 2026.
Maybe more.
That is not an endorsement of any one of them - it simply shows just how far N/A has fallen.
That said, right now STL has several players with the potential to be better than the MLB average 3B in 2926 - and N/A is not one of them.

[Melville]

Well I don't see the motivation to release him since there aren't any other 3B challenging for playing time. I think the team can move forward with their plans whether they have Arenado or not.

The Cardinals have multiple players who are better at 3b right now than N/A.
That was true throughout the 2025 season as well.

Who?

You can't name one

Statistically, Gorman, Donovan, and even Fermin were all far more productive than N/A in 2025.
Next year, Wetherholt will join that list - at a minimum.
Though unlikely, it would not be a shock if 2 more did as well.

Statistically Gorman is a zero war player at third base.

NA is well above that and still has a higher ceiling.

JJW is a 2B. And Fermin is not a starter in any reality.

Agree on Gorman. But I don’t agree with your point on Furman. He hasn’t really been given a chance to start, but when he has, he’s looked very good.

It is what happens when a higher investment is in front of you
in either money or thoughts. Then they age out quick, as a soon to be 27 y/o
receives a new label, "4A player" "career MiLb".
Pretty common.

Gorman getting dealt will not surprise, especially if Bloom pivots from Donovan deals
he will have a market beyond this off season. Donovan has fans in the dugout and FO.
Gorman may not have any.

Arenado just needs to go. His glove is not enough to overcome what it will mean to stay on the treadmill
of having a player show up that really does not want to be here. He was as motivated to
come to camp in 2025 as he could be. Conditioned, added strength, improved bat speed etc.
We know what resulted along with a 107-game season when he could write himself into the lineup for 162.
His body wouldn't allow it. The only possibility of the age 35 NA getting some kind of bump in production is in a different jersey, He has a chance of being a dispirited player in St. Louis, jmo.

If either Donovan or Gorman have "fans in the dugout and FO" (to borrow your phrase), the organization is indeed in a very bad place.
Fans belong in the stands - nowhere else.
Super Slo Mo's 2nd greatest failure was falling in love - and when he fell, he always fell hard and nearly always for the wrong guy.
I have no such shortcoming - and I don't believe Bloom does either.
Bloom with be logical, strategic, and analytical - perhaps nearly as much as I am.
And I believe that will be his sole basis for roster construction decisions (other than DeWitt's various veto decisions concerning payroll).

The word fan is what you want to take exception with?

The short hand versions of why a unbiased assessment can
be mentioned without mentioning each attribute of a player or
employee. In my world that good management and understood
Fair enough a poor choice of words, my apologies.

Donovan
He as support in the dugout due to what he brings to the team.
Leadership, production, performance, work, effort, holding others accountable'
be held in high regard by others and unsolicited receiving public praise.

Reasons that he is desired by other teams.

Gorman has shown a failure to take advantage of opportunities to this point.
He has not been mentioned being a part of 2026 this off season. He has not
been mentioned as working on his game, doing assigned drills, working in Jupiter
mentioned as the 2026 3B or anything really. Silence. Compare other
players who under performed in 2025. VS2, JW.

I could be wrong and missed it and I am willing to be corrected.

To make an observation of the difference from a far with subjectivity,
There appears to be a decrease in how he is regarded in the FO and the dugout.
When that happens future opportunities decrease. He will not improve
in St. Louis if, big if on my part, that is true. Silence is not accidental.

Fans was so much simpler. Hope that helps.

Allow me to kindly clarify a slight and doubtless fully unintentional misrepresentation in your post above.
I took no exception to the word "fans" as you incorrectly stated - but I did question your actual phrase "fans in the dugout and FO".
Bloom will not be swayed by such a notion - though it was standard practice during Super Slo Mo's tenure.
Bloom will be logical, strategic, and analytical - there will be no sentiment involved - in his decision making.
Whether involving Gorman or any other player.
He won't get everything right - no one can.
But he won't get caught up in any perceived allegiances or endorsements - and he has made that perfectly clear in his behavior thus far.
Now, as for ANY one player having "not been mentioned as working on his game, doing assigned drills", we both know that is a specious take and rather revealing of your own bias.
We both know full well that EVERY PLAYER in MLB works on his game EVERY off-season - whether you or I either one read a snippet about it.
Their lucrative income depends on it.

Strange you choose to perseverate on this.

When I am a fan of a players work or a employees work is
because of objective observations that include their production.
their interactions with others, their adherence to the culture as expected.
It does not mean a single other thing. We may have zero things in common.

Now if you have never liked somebodies work or been a fan of
a job one may be doing for you fine. Bloom has plenty
of logical objective data to stop giving Gorman opportunities.

There is nothing specious regarding Gorman's numbers of the last two seasons.
BA .203 and .205
OBP .271 and .296
SLG .400 and .370

804 PA have produced
146 H
31 HR
96 RBI
287 SO

along with a combined -15 OAA at both 2B and 3B. In your projected 3B -9 in only 400
innings. I've seen far less data that resulted in far more critic. You as well as any are aware
that I have supported the guy. Bloom if as objective as we want him to be and having
lucrative income depending on it has reason to turn the page on the man.
It is not a reach to think such. A decrease in opportunity will not help Gorman. A portion of your
defense of this player has suggested such. Speculation that Bloom may pivot from
dealing Donovan to dealing Gorman even if unlikely could happen and be considered
objectively as an improvement for the 2026 roster.

Absolutely Bloom could very well trade Gorman.
In fact, I suspect he is open to one degree or another to listening on any player on the team.
And depending on the offer, could logically see benefit in making a move.
And since I have zero bias for or against any player, I would have zero objection to Bloom doing so if the return makes the organization better.
My judgment, like his, would be based on solely that.
My point is, he will not be swayed by any existing relationships and endorsements within the dugout.
Now, concerning you claim that " A decrease in opportunity will not help Gorman. A portion of your defense of this player has suggested such
He has proven that already." - the latter portion is incorrect, and the former is a difference of opinion.
To the latter, I never attack nor defend any player - I am completely without bias, and my analysis is unfailingly impartial.
To the former, I am fully confident (an opinion fully informed and supported by all available evidence) that Gorman (as well as Walker) have been badly mismanaged by an incompetent manager and front office - and the solution in both instances is regular, defined roles and playing time under the leadership of a competent decision maker.
The Marmot, of course, is not one - but we shall see if Bloom is.
Time will tell who is correct and who is not.
With an accuracy rate of well north of 95% when it comes to player analysis, I like my odds.
There have been many, many, many players about whom I have been correct over the past decade - when the vast majority (and the Cardinals themselves) were wrong.
Watch what happens.

[Wattage]

Well I don't see the motivation to release him since there aren't any other 3B challenging for playing time. I think the team can move forward with their plans whether they have Arenado or not.

The Cardinals have multiple players who are better at 3b right now than N/A.
That was true throughout the 2025 season as well.

Unless you're talking about Donovan, no they don't.

Easy
Obvious
Whatever other nonsense comes after this

Hurdy isn't a 3b...there is no one from 2025 better than Nado at 3b, for the Cards

3b is donovans original position he played in college as well as corner outfield. He was taught 2b to try and take advantage of his bat there. we converted him to 2b. 3b was his natural position.

[scoutyjones2]

Well I don't see the motivation to release him since there aren't any other 3B challenging for playing time. I think the team can move forward with their plans whether they have Arenado or not.

The Cardinals have multiple players who are better at 3b right now than N/A.
That was true throughout the 2025 season as well.

Unless you're talking about Donovan, no they don't.

Easy
Obvious
Whatever other nonsense comes after this

Hurdy isn't a 3b...there is no one from 2025 better than Nado at 3b, for the Cards

3b is donovans original position he played in college as well as corner outfield. He was taught 2b to try and take advantage of his bat there. we converted him to 2b. 3b was his natural position.

He played 0 games at 3b last year...read the thread for context and claims made

[Wattage]

Well I don't see the motivation to release him since there aren't any other 3B challenging for playing time. I think the team can move forward with their plans whether they have Arenado or not.

The Cardinals have multiple players who are better at 3b right now than N/A.
That was true throughout the 2025 season as well.

Unless you're talking about Donovan, no they don't.

Easy
Obvious
Whatever other nonsense comes after this

Hurdy isn't a 3b...there is no one from 2025 better than Nado at 3b, for the Cards

3b is donovans original position he played in college as well as corner outfield. He was taught 2b to try and take advantage of his bat there. we converted him to 2b. 3b was his natural position.

He played 0 games at 3b last year...read the thread for context and claims made

yes- because we tried to make him stick at 2b. he is still capable of playing the position and probably will play there when he gets older and his big body loses the agility and athleticism to handle 2b.

[Melville]

Well I don't see the motivation to release him since there aren't any other 3B challenging for playing time. I think the team can move forward with their plans whether they have Arenado or not.

The Cardinals have multiple players who are better at 3b right now than N/A.
That was true throughout the 2025 season as well.

Unless you're talking about Donovan, no they don't.

Easy
Obvious
Whatever other nonsense comes after this

Hurdy isn't a 3b...there is no one from 2025 better than Nado at 3b, for the Cards

3b is donovans original position he played in college as well as corner outfield. He was taught 2b to try and take advantage of his bat there. we converted him to 2b. 3b was his natural position.

He played 0 games at 3b last year...read the thread for context and claims made

yes- because we tried to make him stick at 2b. he is still capable of playing the position and probably will play there when he gets older and his big body loses the agility and athleticism to handle 2b.

Correct

[renostl]

Well I don't see the motivation to release him since there aren't any other 3B challenging for playing time. I think the team can move forward with their plans whether they have Arenado or not.

The Cardinals have multiple players who are better at 3b right now than N/A.
That was true throughout the 2025 season as well.

Who?

You can't name one

Statistically, Gorman, Donovan, and even Fermin were all far more productive than N/A in 2025.
Next year, Wetherholt will join that list - at a minimum.
Though unlikely, it would not be a shock if 2 more did as well.

Statistically Gorman is a zero war player at third base.

NA is well above that and still has a higher ceiling.

JJW is a 2B. And Fermin is not a starter in any reality.

Agree on Gorman. But I don’t agree with your point on Furman. He hasn’t really been given a chance to start, but when he has, he’s looked very good.

It is what happens when a higher investment is in front of you
in either money or thoughts. Then they age out quick, as a soon to be 27 y/o
receives a new label, "4A player" "career MiLb".
Pretty common.

Gorman getting dealt will not surprise, especially if Bloom pivots from Donovan deals
he will have a market beyond this off season. Donovan has fans in the dugout and FO.
Gorman may not have any.

Arenado just needs to go. His glove is not enough to overcome what it will mean to stay on the treadmill
of having a player show up that really does not want to be here. He was as motivated to
come to camp in 2025 as he could be. Conditioned, added strength, improved bat speed etc.
We know what resulted along with a 107-game season when he could write himself into the lineup for 162.
His body wouldn't allow it. The only possibility of the age 35 NA getting some kind of bump in production is in a different jersey, He has a chance of being a dispirited player in St. Louis, jmo.

If either Donovan or Gorman have "fans in the dugout and FO" (to borrow your phrase), the organization is indeed in a very bad place.
Fans belong in the stands - nowhere else.
Super Slo Mo's 2nd greatest failure was falling in love - and when he fell, he always fell hard and nearly always for the wrong guy.
I have no such shortcoming - and I don't believe Bloom does either.
Bloom with be logical, strategic, and analytical - perhaps nearly as much as I am.
And I believe that will be his sole basis for roster construction decisions (other than DeWitt's various veto decisions concerning payroll).

The word fan is what you want to take exception with?

The short hand versions of why a unbiased assessment can
be mentioned without mentioning each attribute of a player or
employee. In my world that good management and understood
Fair enough a poor choice of words, my apologies.

Donovan
He as support in the dugout due to what he brings to the team.
Leadership, production, performance, work, effort, holding others accountable'
be held in high regard by others and unsolicited receiving public praise.

Reasons that he is desired by other teams.

Gorman has shown a failure to take advantage of opportunities to this point.
He has not been mentioned being a part of 2026 this off season. He has not
been mentioned as working on his game, doing assigned drills, working in Jupiter
mentioned as the 2026 3B or anything really. Silence. Compare other
players who under performed in 2025. VS2, JW.

I could be wrong and missed it and I am willing to be corrected.

To make an observation of the difference from a far with subjectivity,
There appears to be a decrease in how he is regarded in the FO and the dugout.
When that happens future opportunities decrease. He will not improve
in St. Louis if, big if on my part, that is true. Silence is not accidental.

Fans was so much simpler. Hope that helps.

Allow me to kindly clarify a slight and doubtless fully unintentional misrepresentation in your post above.
I took no exception to the word "fans" as you incorrectly stated - but I did question your actual phrase "fans in the dugout and FO".
Bloom will not be swayed by such a notion - though it was standard practice during Super Slo Mo's tenure.
Bloom will be logical, strategic, and analytical - there will be no sentiment involved - in his decision making.
Whether involving Gorman or any other player.
He won't get everything right - no one can.
But he won't get caught up in any perceived allegiances or endorsements - and he has made that perfectly clear in his behavior thus far.
Now, as for ANY one player having "not been mentioned as working on his game, doing assigned drills", we both know that is a specious take and rather revealing of your own bias.
We both know full well that EVERY PLAYER in MLB works on his game EVERY off-season - whether you or I either one read a snippet about it.
Their lucrative income depends on it.

Strange you choose to perseverate on this.

When I am a fan of a players work or a employees work is
because of objective observations that include their production.
their interactions with others, their adherence to the culture as expected.
It does not mean a single other thing. We may have zero things in common.

Now if you have never liked somebodies work or been a fan of
a job one may be doing for you fine. Bloom has plenty
of logical objective data to stop giving Gorman opportunities.

There is nothing specious regarding Gorman's numbers of the last two seasons.
BA .203 and .205
OBP .271 and .296
SLG .400 and .370

804 PA have produced
146 H
31 HR
96 RBI
287 SO

along with a combined -15 OAA at both 2B and 3B. In your projected 3B -9 in only 400
innings. I've seen far less data that resulted in far more critic. You as well as any are aware
that I have supported the guy. Bloom if as objective as we want him to be and having
lucrative income depending on it has reason to turn the page on the man.
It is not a reach to think such. A decrease in opportunity will not help Gorman. A portion of your
defense of this player has suggested such. Speculation that Bloom may pivot from
dealing Donovan to dealing Gorman even if unlikely could happen and be considered
objectively as an improvement for the 2026 roster.

Absolutely Bloom could very well trade Gorman.
In fact, I suspect he is open to one degree or another to listening on any player on the team.
And depending on the offer, could logically see benefit in making a move.
And since I have zero bias for or against any player, I would have zero objection to Bloom doing so if the return makes the organization better.
My judgment, like his, would be based on solely that.
My point is, he will not be swayed by any existing relationships and endorsements within the dugout.
Now, concerning you claim that " A decrease in opportunity will not help Gorman. A portion of your defense of this player has suggested such
He has proven that already." - the latter portion is incorrect, and the former is a difference of opinion.
To the latter, I never attack nor defend any player - I am completely without bias, and my analysis is unfailingly impartial.
To the former, I am fully confident (an opinion fully informed and supported by all available evidence) that Gorman (as well as Walker) have been badly mismanaged by an incompetent manager and front office - and the solution in both instances is regular, defined roles and playing time under the leadership of a competent decision maker.
The Marmot, of course, is not one - but we shall see if Bloom is.
Time will tell who is correct and who is not.
With an accuracy rate of well north of 95% when it comes to player analysis, I like my odds.
There have been many, many, many players about whom I have been correct over the past decade - when the vast majority (and the Cardinals themselves) were wrong.
Watch what happens.

That is your conclusion that you brought on to yourself from one single word that you
have no ability to adjust to.

It's the entire basis to this post that is full of bias, inaccuracies and the usual self-promotional
tirades that is your trademark. 95% accuracy must be meant for humor.

The real issue here is not that the FO or the dugout which includes beyond Marmol cannot view
objectively without bias, it is that you can't when it concerns Gorman. The reason has some irony,
you can't because you are a fan of him, full of bias. His game the past 2 seasons is bad. He is on
course of following another player you were a fan of in Carlson who could at least field and run.
Without a change his career is in jeopardy. I do not want to see that. It is on Gorman to change
though. Not some mishandling that may or may not have existed.

[Cusecards]

The Cardinals have multiple players who are better at 3b right now than N/A.
That was true throughout the 2025 season as well.

Who?

You can't name one

Statistically, Gorman, Donovan, and even Fermin were all far more productive than N/A in 2025.
Next year, Wetherholt will join that list - at a minimum.
Though unlikely, it would not be a shock if 2 more did as well.

Statistically Gorman is a zero war player at third base.

NA is well above that and still has a higher ceiling.

JJW is a 2B. And Fermin is not a starter in any reality.

Agree on Gorman. But I don’t agree with your point on Furman. He hasn’t really been given a chance to start, but when he has, he’s looked very good.

It is what happens when a higher investment is in front of you
in either money or thoughts. Then they age out quick, as a soon to be 27 y/o
receives a new label, "4A player" "career MiLb".
Pretty common.

Gorman getting dealt will not surprise, especially if Bloom pivots from Donovan deals
he will have a market beyond this off season. Donovan has fans in the dugout and FO.
Gorman may not have any.

Arenado just needs to go. His glove is not enough to overcome what it will mean to stay on the treadmill
of having a player show up that really does not want to be here. He was as motivated to
come to camp in 2025 as he could be. Conditioned, added strength, improved bat speed etc.
We know what resulted along with a 107-game season when he could write himself into the lineup for 162.
His body wouldn't allow it. The only possibility of the age 35 NA getting some kind of bump in production is in a different jersey, He has a chance of being a dispirited player in St. Louis, jmo.

If either Donovan or Gorman have "fans in the dugout and FO" (to borrow your phrase), the organization is indeed in a very bad place.
Fans belong in the stands - nowhere else.
Super Slo Mo's 2nd greatest failure was falling in love - and when he fell, he always fell hard and nearly always for the wrong guy.
I have no such shortcoming - and I don't believe Bloom does either.
Bloom with be logical, strategic, and analytical - perhaps nearly as much as I am.
And I believe that will be his sole basis for roster construction decisions (other than DeWitt's various veto decisions concerning payroll).

The word fan is what you want to take exception with?

The short hand versions of why a unbiased assessment can
be mentioned without mentioning each attribute of a player or
employee. In my world that good management and understood
Fair enough a poor choice of words, my apologies.

Donovan
He as support in the dugout due to what he brings to the team.
Leadership, production, performance, work, effort, holding others accountable'
be held in high regard by others and unsolicited receiving public praise.

Reasons that he is desired by other teams.

Gorman has shown a failure to take advantage of opportunities to this point.
He has not been mentioned being a part of 2026 this off season. He has not
been mentioned as working on his game, doing assigned drills, working in Jupiter
mentioned as the 2026 3B or anything really. Silence. Compare other
players who under performed in 2025. VS2, JW.

I could be wrong and missed it and I am willing to be corrected.

To make an observation of the difference from a far with subjectivity,
There appears to be a decrease in how he is regarded in the FO and the dugout.
When that happens future opportunities decrease. He will not improve
in St. Louis if, big if on my part, that is true. Silence is not accidental.

Fans was so much simpler. Hope that helps.

Allow me to kindly clarify a slight and doubtless fully unintentional misrepresentation in your post above.
I took no exception to the word "fans" as you incorrectly stated - but I did question your actual phrase "fans in the dugout and FO".
Bloom will not be swayed by such a notion - though it was standard practice during Super Slo Mo's tenure.
Bloom will be logical, strategic, and analytical - there will be no sentiment involved - in his decision making.
Whether involving Gorman or any other player.
He won't get everything right - no one can.
But he won't get caught up in any perceived allegiances or endorsements - and he has made that perfectly clear in his behavior thus far.
Now, as for ANY one player having "not been mentioned as working on his game, doing assigned drills", we both know that is a specious take and rather revealing of your own bias.
We both know full well that EVERY PLAYER in MLB works on his game EVERY off-season - whether you or I either one read a snippet about it.
Their lucrative income depends on it.

Strange you choose to perseverate on this.

When I am a fan of a players work or a employees work is
because of objective observations that include their production.
their interactions with others, their adherence to the culture as expected.
It does not mean a single other thing. We may have zero things in common.

Now if you have never liked somebodies work or been a fan of
a job one may be doing for you fine. Bloom has plenty
of logical objective data to stop giving Gorman opportunities.

There is nothing specious regarding Gorman's numbers of the last two seasons.
BA .203 and .205
OBP .271 and .296
SLG .400 and .370

804 PA have produced
146 H
31 HR
96 RBI
287 SO

along with a combined -15 OAA at both 2B and 3B. In your projected 3B -9 in only 400
innings. I've seen far less data that resulted in far more critic. You as well as any are aware
that I have supported the guy. Bloom if as objective as we want him to be and having
lucrative income depending on it has reason to turn the page on the man.
It is not a reach to think such. A decrease in opportunity will not help Gorman. A portion of your
defense of this player has suggested such. Speculation that Bloom may pivot from
dealing Donovan to dealing Gorman even if unlikely could happen and be considered
objectively as an improvement for the 2026 roster.

Absolutely Bloom could very well trade Gorman.
In fact, I suspect he is open to one degree or another to listening on any player on the team.
And depending on the offer, could logically see benefit in making a move.
And since I have zero bias for or against any player, I would have zero objection to Bloom doing so if the return makes the organization better.
My judgment, like his, would be based on solely that.
My point is, he will not be swayed by any existing relationships and endorsements within the dugout.
Now, concerning you claim that " A decrease in opportunity will not help Gorman. A portion of your defense of this player has suggested such
He has proven that already." - the latter portion is incorrect, and the former is a difference of opinion.
To the latter, I never attack nor defend any player - I am completely without bias, and my analysis is unfailingly impartial.
To the former, I am fully confident (an opinion fully informed and supported by all available evidence) that Gorman (as well as Walker) have been badly mismanaged by an incompetent manager and front office - and the solution in both instances is regular, defined roles and playing time under the leadership of a competent decision maker.
The Marmot, of course, is not one - but we shall see if Bloom is.
Time will tell who is correct and who is not.
With an accuracy rate of well north of 95% when it comes to player analysis, I like my odds.
There have been many, many, many players about whom I have been correct over the past decade - when the vast majority (and the Cardinals themselves) were wrong.
Watch what happens.

That is your conclusion that you brought on to yourself from one single word that you
have no ability to adjust to.

It's the entire basis to this post that is full of bias, inaccuracies and the usual self-promotional
tirades that is your trademark. 95% accuracy must be meant for humor.

The real issue here is not that the FO or the dugout which includes beyond Marmol cannot view
objectively without bias, it is that you can't when it concerns Gorman. The reason has some irony,
you can't because you are a fan of him, full of bias. His game the past 2 seasons is bad. He is on
course of following another player you were a fan of in Carlson who could at least field and run.
Without a change his career is in jeopardy. I do not want to see that. It is on Gorman to change
though. Not some mishandling that may or may not have existed.

Congrats!
Your second paragraph encapsulates the best description to date of ME-ville.
While good for a daily laugh he does need some new material for his act in 2026.

[scoutyjones2]

Well I don't see the motivation to release him since there aren't any other 3B challenging for playing time. I think the team can move forward with their plans whether they have Arenado or not.

The Cardinals have multiple players who are better at 3b right now than N/A.
That was true throughout the 2025 season as well.

Unless you're talking about Donovan, no they don't.

Easy
Obvious
Whatever other nonsense comes after this

Hurdy isn't a 3b...there is no one from 2025 better than Nado at 3b, for the Cards

3b is donovans original position he played in college as well as corner outfield. He was taught 2b to try and take advantage of his bat there. we converted him to 2b. 3b was his natural position.

He played 0 games at 3b last year...read the thread for context and claims made

yes- because we tried to make him stick at 2b. he is still capable of playing the position and probably will play there when he gets older and his big body loses the agility and athleticism to handle 2b.

Lol. He's 5' 12". Smaller than Nado

[renostl]

Well I don't see the motivation to release him since there aren't any other 3B challenging for playing time. I think the team can move forward with their plans whether they have Arenado or not.

The Cardinals have multiple players who are better at 3b right now than N/A.
That was true throughout the 2025 season as well.

Unless you're talking about Donovan, no they don't.

Easy
Obvious
Whatever other nonsense comes after this

Hurdy isn't a 3b...there is no one from 2025 better than Nado at 3b, for the Cards

3b is donovans original position he played in college as well as corner outfield. He was taught 2b to try and take advantage of his bat there. we converted him to 2b. 3b was his natural position.

He played 0 games at 3b last year...read the thread for context and claims made

yes- because we tried to make him stick at 2b. he is still capable of playing the position and probably will play there when he gets older and his big body loses the agility and athleticism to handle 2b.

Lol. He's 5' 12". Smaller than Nado

5' 11"

It is his arm that I have concern, same as Saggese and his arm.
BD's range will probably decrease as life happens. Gorman's is strong enough but had
some concerning accuracy issues. IF BD were to be kept and, on the infield, I'd be inclined to keep
him on 2B. JJ's arm looks at least average for the left side from what I've seen let Saggese
and Gorman provide substitution work if here or battle for 2B if BD is gone.