Bolduc Analysis - Proven Ability

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Re: Bolduc Analysis - Proven Ability

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TAFKAP wrote: 27 Sep 2025 12:15 pm
theograce wrote: 27 Sep 2025 12:07 pm
DawgDad wrote: 27 Sep 2025 12:02 pm
Cahokanut wrote: 27 Sep 2025 11:51 am
britishblue wrote: 27 Sep 2025 11:38 am
Cahokanut wrote: 27 Sep 2025 11:32 am I've not seen any prospect army traded for work out. None.
Trades are 100% Army evaluation. There's no scouts in the room.
This trade not only didn't need to happen. But Army literally gave Bolduc away.

Montreal has always tried to bring locals back to the area.
So they really wanted Bolduc.
Trading away that kind of potential and NHL skill at 21. For a player who was never gonna be a NHLer in Montreal. One for one. Is more then a major gaff. But a pattern of Army flopping like a fish. While getting hooked.

I'll be glad when the bad trades, big ego, and a yearly consistently worst team ends.

If not for the paid loud bullies who would beg him to marry their daughters His act would of ended years ago. Glad it's almost over. Feel for Steen as he is left a burned down house.
Got any examples?
I don't. Without looking I'd guess there has been three total prospects army traded for. In 15+ years.

What i remember the most is having most of our top ten in scoring under 23 when [shirt] for brains pulled his wagon in.
We spent three years at the top of the league. And our regular seasons have went steadily downhill since. The more our team becomes a Army product the more losses that come.

Steen better have some magic. As things are not as bright, as Army and his cult, like to beat into anyone who might disagree.
Do you realize the team's point total has INCREASED from the prior season in 3 of the past 4 seasons?
Pretty identical over the past 2 years
Except the 92 point team missed the playoffs, and, the 96 point team took the President's Trophy winner with the Vezina winning goalie (who we chased 3 times) to 2OT of Game 7. While missing a 60 point player. Yeah your right. Those teams were very similar to watch. :roll:
We were talking point totals no?
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Re: Bolduc Analysis - Proven Ability

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theograce wrote: 27 Sep 2025 12:36 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 27 Sep 2025 12:15 pm
theograce wrote: 27 Sep 2025 12:07 pm
DawgDad wrote: 27 Sep 2025 12:02 pm
Cahokanut wrote: 27 Sep 2025 11:51 am
britishblue wrote: 27 Sep 2025 11:38 am
Cahokanut wrote: 27 Sep 2025 11:32 am I've not seen any prospect army traded for work out. None.
Trades are 100% Army evaluation. There's no scouts in the room.
This trade not only didn't need to happen. But Army literally gave Bolduc away.

Montreal has always tried to bring locals back to the area.
So they really wanted Bolduc.
Trading away that kind of potential and NHL skill at 21. For a player who was never gonna be a NHLer in Montreal. One for one. Is more then a major gaff. But a pattern of Army flopping like a fish. While getting hooked.

I'll be glad when the bad trades, big ego, and a yearly consistently worst team ends.

If not for the paid loud bullies who would beg him to marry their daughters His act would of ended years ago. Glad it's almost over. Feel for Steen as he is left a burned down house.
Got any examples?
I don't. Without looking I'd guess there has been three total prospects army traded for. In 15+ years.

What i remember the most is having most of our top ten in scoring under 23 when [shirt] for brains pulled his wagon in.
We spent three years at the top of the league. And our regular seasons have went steadily downhill since. The more our team becomes a Army product the more losses that come.

Steen better have some magic. As things are not as bright, as Army and his cult, like to beat into anyone who might disagree.
Do you realize the team's point total has INCREASED from the prior season in 3 of the past 4 seasons?
Pretty identical over the past 2 years
Except the 92 point team missed the playoffs, and, the 96 point team took the President's Trophy winner with the Vezina winning goalie (who we chased 3 times) to 2OT of Game 7. While missing a 60 point player. Yeah your right. Those teams were very similar to watch. :roll:
We were talking point totals no?
No, we're talking trends, point totals are a measure. There is little comparison between last season and the prior given how the team took off under Monty after the 4Nations, other than 92 vs 96 with no context. The team was trending solidly up, setting win streak record. Now, the question is can they get back into the playoffs and even improve? But the discussion focused on the past. C-Nut was ignoring some clear facts contradicting the assertions. 109-UFA splat-92-96 playoffs is indicative of an organization making needed adjustments, not failing.
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Re: Bolduc Analysis - Proven Ability

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theograce wrote: 27 Sep 2025 12:36 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 27 Sep 2025 12:15 pm
theograce wrote: 27 Sep 2025 12:07 pm
DawgDad wrote: 27 Sep 2025 12:02 pm
Cahokanut wrote: 27 Sep 2025 11:51 am
britishblue wrote: 27 Sep 2025 11:38 am
Cahokanut wrote: 27 Sep 2025 11:32 am I've not seen any prospect army traded for work out. None.
Trades are 100% Army evaluation. There's no scouts in the room.
This trade not only didn't need to happen. But Army literally gave Bolduc away.

Montreal has always tried to bring locals back to the area.
So they really wanted Bolduc.
Trading away that kind of potential and NHL skill at 21. For a player who was never gonna be a NHLer in Montreal. One for one. Is more then a major gaff. But a pattern of Army flopping like a fish. While getting hooked.

I'll be glad when the bad trades, big ego, and a yearly consistently worst team ends.

If not for the paid loud bullies who would beg him to marry their daughters His act would of ended years ago. Glad it's almost over. Feel for Steen as he is left a burned down house.
Got any examples?
I don't. Without looking I'd guess there has been three total prospects army traded for. In 15+ years.

What i remember the most is having most of our top ten in scoring under 23 when [shirt] for brains pulled his wagon in.
We spent three years at the top of the league. And our regular seasons have went steadily downhill since. The more our team becomes a Army product the more losses that come.

Steen better have some magic. As things are not as bright, as Army and his cult, like to beat into anyone who might disagree.
Do you realize the team's point total has INCREASED from the prior season in 3 of the past 4 seasons?
Pretty identical over the past 2 years
Except the 92 point team missed the playoffs, and, the 96 point team took the President's Trophy winner with the Vezina winning goalie (who we chased 3 times) to 2OT of Game 7. While missing a 60 point player. Yeah your right. Those teams were very similar to watch. :roll:
We were talking point totals no?
Yes, yes of course. Thanks for keeping this discussion on track. There is no real difference between a 92 point team and a 96 point team. Even though one made the playoffs and the other didn't they are pretty much identical. it's just 4 points. I do want to see your logic twist over a 5 point difference though. I think one extra shootout win in 82 games REALLY shows growth of a team from one season to the next.

2017-2018 94 Points
2018-2019 99 Points

Pretty identical over those 2 years, no?
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Re: Bolduc Analysis - Proven Ability

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a smell of green grass wrote: 27 Sep 2025 04:02 am
Old_Goat wrote: 26 Sep 2025 16:00 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:18 am What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.
The Blues needed a RHD with good size and generally considered to have strong potential to be a very good NHL caliber player.
The Canadiens needed a forward whom is generally considered to have strong potential to be a very good NHL caliber player.
What is so difficult to understand about those two facts??
It is not so much that you are stupid...it's that you are stubbornly stupid. Your obsessive compulsive disorder that drives your thinking and posting needs professional treatment. Pay attention, try to think, seek professional counseling.
I need BluesTalk. I don't need PsychologyTalk.

Army has needed a RHD with good size and potential for how many years now? Regardless of that, you're confident that Army has finally hit the nail on the head this time.

Did we just give up a proven NHL player for yet another Armstrong whiff?
BluesTalk doesn't need you.
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Re: Bolduc Analysis - Proven Ability

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Old_Goat wrote: 28 Sep 2025 09:22 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 27 Sep 2025 04:02 am
Old_Goat wrote: 26 Sep 2025 16:00 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:18 am What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.
The Blues needed a RHD with good size and generally considered to have strong potential to be a very good NHL caliber player.
The Canadiens needed a forward whom is generally considered to have strong potential to be a very good NHL caliber player.
What is so difficult to understand about those two facts??
It is not so much that you are stupid...it's that you are stubbornly stupid. Your obsessive compulsive disorder that drives your thinking and posting needs professional treatment. Pay attention, try to think, seek professional counseling.
I need BluesTalk. I don't need PsychologyTalk.

Army has needed a RHD with good size and potential for how many years now? Regardless of that, you're confident that Army has finally hit the nail on the head this time.

Did we just give up a proven NHL player for yet another Armstrong whiff?
BluesTalk doesn't need you.
That's what the patients always say.
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Re: Bolduc Analysis - Proven Ability

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Engaging with a troll reminds me of the movie “War Games” where the computer is taught tic tac toe to learn the futility of nuclear war. In the words of the computer: “The only way to win is to not play.”
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Atlantis17A wrote: 28 Sep 2025 12:34 pm Engaging with a troll reminds me of the movie “War Games” where the computer is taught tic tac toe to learn the futility of nuclear war. In the words of the computer: “The only way to win is to not play.”
I too win if no one responds to my posts because I am not misquoted, slandered, and pestered with senseless unrelated questions and remarks.

The purpose of my post is to sway minds, and on this front, I am winning. Whether people reply or don't reply does not change that.
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