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MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:20 pm

cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:17 pm

82birds wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:15 pm

cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:12 pm

82birds wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:10 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:08 pm Pages was not good that time. Kind of got used to him delivering.

I would have loved to see Crooks at bat there with the bases loaded

The Astros?

huh?

Bad joke about the Astros being crooks. My apologies.

Good stuff statman!

I liked it!

okay
dodged a big bullet there

c'mon top of the order

82birds wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:22 pm okay
dodged a big bullet there

c'mon top of the order

1-2-3 not what I had in mind

This feels like a backbreaking loss

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:21 pm Sonny Gray is about to stroke out

Gray is not an ace
Most starting pitchers are way over paid now. Starters need to go six or morning innings. Maybe owners to use that on paying big bucks to starters

Wow the Rays are baaaad!

That was some Cardinalesque baserunning.

lol. Great throw by Church, though. Be nice if the kid could get a hit and start gaining some confidence.

how about that?
Church outfield assist
3rd out b4 run scores

Charles King wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:33 pm

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:21 pm Sonny Gray is about to stroke out

Gray is not an ace
Most starting pitchers are way over paid now. Starters need to go six or morning innings. Maybe owners to use that on paying big bucks to starters

Sometimes he is dominant and it is awesome, but it sure seems like most of the time (or at least more than half the time) he is just a 5 inning starter. Meaning not so Ace-ish. But, he certainly gets paid like an Ace!

Church hosed the runner at third. NIice arm!

long gone Willson

Charles King wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:33 pm

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:21 pm Sonny Gray is about to stroke out

Gray is not an ace
Most starting pitchers are way over paid now. Starters need to go six or morning innings. Maybe owners to use that on paying big bucks to starters

Agreed. I have a feeling that is going to change and starters are going to throw a fit but they just don't pitch enough of a game anymore to warrant the kind of money they get paid. Very few do anyways.

Good grief! Even the bullpen stinks these days. This game is far from over.

bases loaded, no out
and up steps 35 HR man Caminero

slimjay63801 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:49 pm

Charles King wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:33 pm

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:21 pm Sonny Gray is about to stroke out

Gray is not an ace
Most starting pitchers are way over paid now. Starters need to go six or morning innings. Maybe owners to use that on paying big bucks to starters

Agreed. I have a feeling that is going to change and starters are going to throw a fit but they just don't pitch enough of a game anymore to warrant the kind of money they get paid. Very few do anyways.

+1

Charles King wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:33 pm

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 20:21 pm Sonny Gray is about to stroke out

Gray is not an ace
Most starting pitchers are way over paid now. Starters need to go six or morning innings. Maybe owners to use that on paying big bucks to starters

Starting pitches are highly paid due to limited supply and high demand. Gray has been a consistent starter for 13 years with a 3.57 ERA Not a ton of pitchers get that many years.
At age 35, he has declined as years taken its toll.

Not easy to find guys that have a variety of pitched that can go even 5 or 6 innings every 5th day. Most pitchers cannot and become relievers .

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