Roby had TJ surgery last Friday
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So Goold, Woo and Denton were all in dark as usual
Injury occurred 2 weeks ago
Well placed sources sniff this out way before today
Injury occurred 2 weeks ago
Well placed sources sniff this out way before today
Re: Roby had TJ surgery last Friday
First of all, nobody except you used the word “lied”.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 15:27 pmI don't care two cents about the organization. I simply don't understand privileged fans claiming to be lied to with zero evidence. Why don't you step up and show how the organization "lied" to you about Roby? That is such a stupid whine.Bomber1 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 15:03 pmYou can always be counted on to defend the organization despite the fact that a previous poster’s response proved yours wrong.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 14:56 pmWhere did they lie? For that matter, what information do they owe you?
What part of this don't you understand?The HIPAA Privacy Rule establishes national standards to protect individuals' medical records and other individually identifiable health information. It governs how covered entities, like healthcare providers and health plans, can use and disclose this protected health information (PHI). The rule also grants individuals certain rights regarding their PHI.
The post said the team showed “lack of honesty”.
Speaking of lack of honesty I believe you care a lot more than 2 cents about the organization.
Re: Roby had TJ surgery last Friday
Even if - he's still never going to be Rolen or Arenado in their primes - which is actually what we will need to get the excitement and production levels back to truly competitive. We still need to find that MVP candidate (or 2-3 of them) out there at some point and its not in our system.Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 22:10 pmSaggese just needs to play consistently. The guy can hit and is a gamer and a baseball rat. I stand behind that he was a very good pickup for us. The organization is screwing him right now. (Bring him up earlier and send him down when he was hitting over .400. Bring him back up later and give hkm sporadic playing time, at best.) He can be good if handled right. Will Cards do that? Doubtful.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 13:43 pmWhich makes my point - any vets traded this week need to be for MLB ready prospects (Spencer Jones) or already proven and controllable players - not EARLY prospects that might never pan out.3dender wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:54 pmKinda early to decide Saggese's fate when he's had 140 PAs, totally inconsistent PT, and just turned 23 this season.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:40 pmThe trade was lame. Saggesse is a Jag. Roby is an injured bust. Bloom has to find other ways to improve this franchise besides trading vets for lotto tickets like this that give us 0 WAR.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 10:41 am So even the trade we thought was good is still pending in the Monty trade
Roby will be 26ish by the time he is healed and developed in the minors
Saggese has shown flashes, but still a lot to prove
King overall has been serviceable, I think
Moe is trash
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Re: Roby had TJ surgery last Friday
The “injury” did not occur 2 weeks ago. It wasn’t acute.Baseball Savant wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 22:54 pm So Goold, Woo and Denton were all in dark as usual
Injury occurred 2 weeks ago
Well placed sources sniff this out way before today
Re: Roby had TJ surgery last Friday
If you think Denton is on the same level as Goold and Woo, you really don't have a good feel for trustworthy sources.Baseball Savant wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 22:54 pm So Goold, Woo and Denton were all in dark as usual
Injury occurred 2 weeks ago
Well placed sources sniff this out way before today
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Re: Roby had TJ surgery last Friday
What word would you use in place of lied to describe lack of honesty? I cared about The Cardinals since I was a little boy.Bomber1 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 08:21 amFirst of all, nobody except you used the word “lied”.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 15:27 pmI don't care two cents about the organization. I simply don't understand privileged fans claiming to be lied to with zero evidence. Why don't you step up and show how the organization "lied" to you about Roby? That is such a stupid whine.Bomber1 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 15:03 pmYou can always be counted on to defend the organization despite the fact that a previous poster’s response proved yours wrong.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 14:56 pmWhere did they lie? For that matter, what information do they owe you?
What part of this don't you understand?The HIPAA Privacy Rule establishes national standards to protect individuals' medical records and other individually identifiable health information. It governs how covered entities, like healthcare providers and health plans, can use and disclose this protected health information (PHI). The rule also grants individuals certain rights regarding their PHI.
The post said the team showed “lack of honesty”.
Speaking of lack of honesty I believe you care a lot more than 2 cents about the organization.
DeWitt and the FO are strictly a means to the end. I don’t hate them and I don’t love them. But as long as they are responsible for Cardinal success I support them. The departure of Mo is welcomed as is the new blood in the FO.
Referring to them as dishonest is just sour grapes and without evidence. Posters should be called on it.
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Re: Roby had TJ surgery last Friday
Few are. We aren't trading Jordan Montgomery and getting a Rolen/Nado.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 11:34 amEven if - he's still never going to be Rolen or Arenado in their primes - which is actually what we will need to get the excitement and production levels back to truly competitive. We still need to find that MVP candidate (or 2-3 of them) out there at some point and its not in our system.Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 22:10 pmSaggese just needs to play consistently. The guy can hit and is a gamer and a baseball rat. I stand behind that he was a very good pickup for us. The organization is screwing him right now. (Bring him up earlier and send him down when he was hitting over .400. Bring him back up later and give hkm sporadic playing time, at best.) He can be good if handled right. Will Cards do that? Doubtful.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 13:43 pmWhich makes my point - any vets traded this week need to be for MLB ready prospects (Spencer Jones) or already proven and controllable players - not EARLY prospects that might never pan out.3dender wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:54 pmKinda early to decide Saggese's fate when he's had 140 PAs, totally inconsistent PT, and just turned 23 this season.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:40 pmThe trade was lame. Saggesse is a Jag. Roby is an injured bust. Bloom has to find other ways to improve this franchise besides trading vets for lotto tickets like this that give us 0 WAR.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 10:41 am So even the trade we thought was good is still pending in the Monty trade
Roby will be 26ish by the time he is healed and developed in the minors
Saggese has shown flashes, but still a lot to prove
King overall has been serviceable, I think
Moe is trash
You are right, we have few (if any) of those types in the system. That's why if the Cards (or many people on here) think that we can create a team of homegrown, cheap all-stars that will win a W.S., they are sorely mistaken!!! We will need to continue to develop good young players, but still add prime time FAs for the spots we need.
The other day, MattMitch said that he agreed but not next year. My question is, why not?
It is clear what pieces we need to add. We have the $$$ to add them. Just go do it!!! No need to wait years and years!
Re: Roby had TJ surgery last Friday
Again, nobody used the word lied. And perhaps the “lack of honesty” statement should be replaced with “the Cardinal FO was not forthright”.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 12:26 pmWhat word would you use in place of lied to describe lack of honesty? I cared about The Cardinals since I was a little boy.Bomber1 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 08:21 amFirst of all, nobody except you used the word “lied”.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 15:27 pmI don't care two cents about the organization. I simply don't understand privileged fans claiming to be lied to with zero evidence. Why don't you step up and show how the organization "lied" to you about Roby? That is such a stupid whine.Bomber1 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 15:03 pmYou can always be counted on to defend the organization despite the fact that a previous poster’s response proved yours wrong.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 14:56 pmWhere did they lie? For that matter, what information do they owe you?
What part of this don't you understand?The HIPAA Privacy Rule establishes national standards to protect individuals' medical records and other individually identifiable health information. It governs how covered entities, like healthcare providers and health plans, can use and disclose this protected health information (PHI). The rule also grants individuals certain rights regarding their PHI.
The post said the team showed “lack of honesty”.
Speaking of lack of honesty I believe you care a lot more than 2 cents about the organization.
DeWitt and the FO are strictly a means to the end. I don’t hate them and I don’t love them. But as long as they are responsible for Cardinal success I support them. The departure of Mo is welcomed as is the new blood in the FO.
Referring to them as dishonest is just sour grapes and without evidence. Posters should be called on it.
Because they weren’t.
I know you’re a great fan and I’m not questioning that.
At least we can agree that Mozeliak’s departure is a good thing.
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Re: Roby had TJ surgery last Friday
Two sources later confirmed that report for the Post-Dispatch. The Cardinals have not made any official comment, and when asked in recent weeks about Roby's health officials offered no details.
Cards make no news release of any kind, just some folks confirm when asked.
Re: Roby had TJ surgery last Friday
TJ sucks. Had it in 04