Thanks, rock, especially since all of your posts are so original.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:03 pm"45 RPM", what is that?Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:41 amSome guys seem to play the same 45 RPM record over and over until it gets scratchy and skips.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:59 amNot 30 years but after he took over Mo rode the coat tails of what first Walt left him and then second TLR/Albert & Company.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:55 amBloom needs to attain the same overall successful track record that MO has had over the last 30 years. Sure hope he will.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:49 amBingosikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Plus a much smarter baseball man in the POBO office than the one who's wasted so much money the last decade.
Once that regimes DNA was gone, he's floundered miserably.
Bloom may indeed flop.
But change should've came years ago, just glad BDWJr finally realized it...... too bad he was so late in doing so.
But speaking of broken records, they name is cranny.
Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
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Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Well they’ve had 5 prospects that were top 10 prospects in the game in the last 15 or so years and none of them have achieved anything remotely close to their potential.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:56 amAdam2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:15 amsubtract 8 - 10 yearsCranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:55 amBloom needs to attain the same overall successful track record that MO has had over the last 30 years. Sure hope he will.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:49 amBingosikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Plus a much smarter baseball man in the POBO office than the one who's wasted so much money the last decade.Examples?Futuregm2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:50 amBecause you’re not going to miss on all of them. But even as optimistic of a person as I am, I can see that they have done a brutal job developing the elite talent that they’ve had.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:44 amIf our minor league development is awful, how did we end up with Winn, Herrera, McGreevey, Burleson, etc.craviduce wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:58 amwe've tried your approach for 10 seasons....$160-175 million. It didn't work, the Dodgers spent more, much more. We could compete, some what, when teams stayed near the CB Tax thresh hold. The bigger markets heeded the Tax Penalties, for the most part. The Sox and Yankees taking the most penalties for while, but we were still within sniffing distance, and somewhat competitive. Then the new decade happened. San Diego's owners got some new thongs and ants in their pants and started spending, the Dodgers followed suit...they have the TV and Advertising money, they can do whatever they want....We can't. So why should we?rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:46 amI don't give a c r a p what BDWJr say's, of course he wants to have as low a payroll as he can but to accept that, in this city where he's drawn 3+M for decades, isn't going to happen and nor should it.craviduce wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amwhy does it "need to be"???....when they've said they're moving forward with a smaller budget.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Why can't some of the fan base come to grips with this?
And then...we have the likely work stoppage in 2027. You have the New CBA uncertainty, which will redefine players salaries and team budgets, profit sharing, etc, etc. With zero idea on how every thing will work, why in the world would this team, and most midmarket and all low market teams spend any significant money this season and next? Why????
Makes no sense to spend under these circumstances.
I know you love the kids from the minor leagues and want to see them playing in St. Louis, I respect that.
And some actually do come thru the system and make an impact.
Of course you need to draft and development internally, we're all for that!
But there's absolutely no way whatsoever to compete for another WS title unless you have a budget ($175M minimum) that allows C. Bloom to fill in the (many) missing pieces this team needs to compete again.
You need both (internal players drafter + traded for or signed established major league talent) to win.
No one knows if there will be a work stoppage, too much to lose on both sides (owners TV money/gates/ect...) and players (massive salaries they would never recoup).
This is a "mid market team" population wise, but they're fan base makes them a large regional team that has drawn near the top of MLB in attendance for decades.
They DON'T lack revenue, haven't for decades.
Unless BDWJr is happy drawing 2.2-2.5M -vs- 3.1-3.4M, then he'll spend.
I don't think C. Bloom would've taken the job w/o this guarantee (he already got shafted in Boston, too smart to let it happen again).
Respect as always, not in agreement here.
Dewitt must give Bloom the same financial payroll support he gave Mo and I think he will.
JMO
Our Minor Leagues development is awful, our prospects aren't up to par with the rest of the league, our middling prospects rival the low tier prospects in every other organization. We've lost our way as an organization....all b/c we tried to keep up with the payroll of others..."within sniffing distance"
We need to build from the ground up, and we're starting to do that. Spending stupid money just to spend stupid money...is...STUPID. I don't want to put us back another decade or two. You have to realize this is what you're wanting to do. Cut down some of those Trees, see the Forest.
Colby Rasmus
Oscar Taveras
Alex Reyes
Dylan Carlson
Jordan Walker
- Took elite arms and never gave them chances to be a SP like Rosenthal and Hicks.
- Rushed Libby to AAA after the Arozarena success in the playoffs then shuttled him back and forth between the rotation and the bullpen in the MLB. Jerked Walker around promoting him and then sending him down after like 2 weeks in back to back years.
- Said 2025 would be the year of the runway for Walker and Gorman and Gorman has barely gotten half the PT he should be getting.
- Signed a player like Contreras and then said they’d move him off of catcher a month into signing him. Then when they got national embarrassment from the move, they changed their tune back to him playing catcher.
- And speaking of catcher, they got the criticism that they didn’t have a catching instructor in the minors.
And that’s off the top of my head.
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not a bad list not bad at allFuturegm2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:09 pmWell they’ve had 5 prospects that were top 10 prospects in the game in the last 15 or so years and none of them have achieved anything remotely close to their potential.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:56 amAdam2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:15 amsubtract 8 - 10 yearsCranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:55 amBloom needs to attain the same overall successful track record that MO has had over the last 30 years. Sure hope he will.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:49 amBingosikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Plus a much smarter baseball man in the POBO office than the one who's wasted so much money the last decade.Examples?Futuregm2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:50 amBecause you’re not going to miss on all of them. But even as optimistic of a person as I am, I can see that they have done a brutal job developing the elite talent that they’ve had.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:44 amIf our minor league development is awful, how did we end up with Winn, Herrera, McGreevey, Burleson, etc.craviduce wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:58 amwe've tried your approach for 10 seasons....$160-175 million. It didn't work, the Dodgers spent more, much more. We could compete, some what, when teams stayed near the CB Tax thresh hold. The bigger markets heeded the Tax Penalties, for the most part. The Sox and Yankees taking the most penalties for while, but we were still within sniffing distance, and somewhat competitive. Then the new decade happened. San Diego's owners got some new thongs and ants in their pants and started spending, the Dodgers followed suit...they have the TV and Advertising money, they can do whatever they want....We can't. So why should we?rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:46 amI don't give a c r a p what BDWJr say's, of course he wants to have as low a payroll as he can but to accept that, in this city where he's drawn 3+M for decades, isn't going to happen and nor should it.craviduce wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amwhy does it "need to be"???....when they've said they're moving forward with a smaller budget.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Why can't some of the fan base come to grips with this?
And then...we have the likely work stoppage in 2027. You have the New CBA uncertainty, which will redefine players salaries and team budgets, profit sharing, etc, etc. With zero idea on how every thing will work, why in the world would this team, and most midmarket and all low market teams spend any significant money this season and next? Why????
Makes no sense to spend under these circumstances.
I know you love the kids from the minor leagues and want to see them playing in St. Louis, I respect that.
And some actually do come thru the system and make an impact.
Of course you need to draft and development internally, we're all for that!
But there's absolutely no way whatsoever to compete for another WS title unless you have a budget ($175M minimum) that allows C. Bloom to fill in the (many) missing pieces this team needs to compete again.
You need both (internal players drafter + traded for or signed established major league talent) to win.
No one knows if there will be a work stoppage, too much to lose on both sides (owners TV money/gates/ect...) and players (massive salaries they would never recoup).
This is a "mid market team" population wise, but they're fan base makes them a large regional team that has drawn near the top of MLB in attendance for decades.
They DON'T lack revenue, haven't for decades.
Unless BDWJr is happy drawing 2.2-2.5M -vs- 3.1-3.4M, then he'll spend.
I don't think C. Bloom would've taken the job w/o this guarantee (he already got shafted in Boston, too smart to let it happen again).
Respect as always, not in agreement here.
Dewitt must give Bloom the same financial payroll support he gave Mo and I think he will.
JMO
Our Minor Leagues development is awful, our prospects aren't up to par with the rest of the league, our middling prospects rival the low tier prospects in every other organization. We've lost our way as an organization....all b/c we tried to keep up with the payroll of others..."within sniffing distance"
We need to build from the ground up, and we're starting to do that. Spending stupid money just to spend stupid money...is...STUPID. I don't want to put us back another decade or two. You have to realize this is what you're wanting to do. Cut down some of those Trees, see the Forest.
Colby Rasmus
Oscar Taveras
Alex Reyes
Dylan Carlson
Jordan Walker
- Took elite arms and never gave them chances to be a SP like Rosenthal and Hicks.
- Rushed Libby to AAA after the Arozarena success in the playoffs then shuttled him back and forth between the rotation and the bullpen in the MLB. Jerked Walker around promoting him and then sending him down after like 2 weeks in back to back years.
- Said 2025 would be the year of the runway for Walker and Gorman and Gorman has barely gotten half the PT he should be getting.
- Signed a player like Contreras and then said they’d move him off of catcher a month into signing him. Then when they got national embarrassment from the move, they changed their tune back to him playing catcher.
- And speaking of catcher, they got the criticism that they didn’t have a catching instructor in the minors.
And that’s off the top of my head.
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Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
8 Tracks, Cassettes; and Stereo.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:03 pm"45 RPM", what is that?Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:41 amSome guys seem to play the same 45 RPM record over and over until it gets scratchy and skips.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:59 amNot 30 years but after he took over Mo rode the coat tails of what first Walt left him and then second TLR/Albert & Company.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:55 amBloom needs to attain the same overall successful track record that MO has had over the last 30 years. Sure hope he will.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:49 amBingosikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Plus a much smarter baseball man in the POBO office than the one who's wasted so much money the last decade.
Once that regimes DNA was gone, he's floundered miserably.
Bloom may indeed flop.
But change should've came years ago, just glad BDWJr finally realized it...... too bad he was so late in doing so.
But speaking of broken records, they name is cranny.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
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Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Are you looking in the mirror and talking to yourself again?Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:08 pmThanks, rock, especially since all of your posts are so original.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:03 pm"45 RPM", what is that?Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:41 amSome guys seem to play the same 45 RPM record over and over until it gets scratchy and skips.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:59 amNot 30 years but after he took over Mo rode the coat tails of what first Walt left him and then second TLR/Albert & Company.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:55 amBloom needs to attain the same overall successful track record that MO has had over the last 30 years. Sure hope he will.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:49 amBingosikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Plus a much smarter baseball man in the POBO office than the one who's wasted so much money the last decade.
Once that regimes DNA was gone, he's floundered miserably.
Bloom may indeed flop.
But change should've came years ago, just glad BDWJr finally realized it...... too bad he was so late in doing so.
But speaking of broken records, they name is cranny.
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Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
8 tracks and cassettes, those I know!sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:12 pm8 Tracks, Cassettes; and Stereo.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:03 pm"45 RPM", what is that?Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:41 amSome guys seem to play the same 45 RPM record over and over until it gets scratchy and skips.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:59 amNot 30 years but after he took over Mo rode the coat tails of what first Walt left him and then second TLR/Albert & Company.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:55 amBloom needs to attain the same overall successful track record that MO has had over the last 30 years. Sure hope he will.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:49 amBingosikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Plus a much smarter baseball man in the POBO office than the one who's wasted so much money the last decade.
Once that regimes DNA was gone, he's floundered miserably.
Bloom may indeed flop.
But change should've came years ago, just glad BDWJr finally realized it...... too bad he was so late in doing so.
But speaking of broken records, they name is cranny.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
These two ideas can be done together. One, our player development system should have more money poured into it. But $5M to $10M is probably the full budget needed in that respect.craviduce wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:58 am we've tried your approach for 10 seasons....$160-175 million. It didn't work, the Dodgers spent more, much more. We could compete, some what, when teams stayed near the CB Tax thresh hold. The bigger markets heeded the Tax Penalties, for the most part. The Sox and Yankees taking the most penalties for while, but we were still within sniffing distance, and somewhat competitive. Then the new decade happened. San Diego's owners got some new thongs and ants in their pants and started spending, the Dodgers followed suit...they have the TV and Advertising money, they can do whatever they want....We can't. So why should we?
Our Minor Leagues development is awful, our prospects aren't up to par with the rest of the league, our middling prospects rival the low tier prospects in every other organization. We've lost our way as an organization....all b/c we tried to keep up with the payroll of others..."within sniffing distance"
We need to build from the ground up, and we're starting to do that. Spending stupid money just to spend stupid money...is...STUPID. I don't want to put us back another decade or two. You have to realize this is what you're wanting to do. Cut down some of those Trees, see the Forest.
Secondly, getting free agents isn't bad, but maybe go for Lugo, Manaea, Martinez, Flaherty rather than Sonny Gray. Gary Sanchez instead of Contreras, same with Fowler. We can't ever afford to give away draft picks.
Likewise, we need to do more to get into the NBL/KBL league players like Senga, Imanaga, Suzuki, Yoshida, and next up will be Murakami. These types build up the ML team without hurting the farm system. Imanaga was $20M cheaper than Sonny Gray and didn't cost a draft pick.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
They've been simply awful, Future. The fact that they've won 90 or more games in 3 of their last 5 full seasons must be a mirage. And Walker must not have just turned 23.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:09 pmWell they’ve had 5 prospects that were top 10 prospects in the game in the last 15 or so years and none of them have achieved anything remotely close to their potential.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:56 amAdam2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:15 amsubtract 8 - 10 yearsCranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:55 amBloom needs to attain the same overall successful track record that MO has had over the last 30 years. Sure hope he will.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:49 amBingosikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Plus a much smarter baseball man in the POBO office than the one who's wasted so much money the last decade.Examples?Futuregm2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:50 amBecause you’re not going to miss on all of them. But even as optimistic of a person as I am, I can see that they have done a brutal job developing the elite talent that they’ve had.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:44 amIf our minor league development is awful, how did we end up with Winn, Herrera, McGreevey, Burleson, etc.craviduce wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:58 amwe've tried your approach for 10 seasons....$160-175 million. It didn't work, the Dodgers spent more, much more. We could compete, some what, when teams stayed near the CB Tax thresh hold. The bigger markets heeded the Tax Penalties, for the most part. The Sox and Yankees taking the most penalties for while, but we were still within sniffing distance, and somewhat competitive. Then the new decade happened. San Diego's owners got some new thongs and ants in their pants and started spending, the Dodgers followed suit...they have the TV and Advertising money, they can do whatever they want....We can't. So why should we?rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:46 amI don't give a c r a p what BDWJr say's, of course he wants to have as low a payroll as he can but to accept that, in this city where he's drawn 3+M for decades, isn't going to happen and nor should it.craviduce wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amwhy does it "need to be"???....when they've said they're moving forward with a smaller budget.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Why can't some of the fan base come to grips with this?
And then...we have the likely work stoppage in 2027. You have the New CBA uncertainty, which will redefine players salaries and team budgets, profit sharing, etc, etc. With zero idea on how every thing will work, why in the world would this team, and most midmarket and all low market teams spend any significant money this season and next? Why????
Makes no sense to spend under these circumstances.
I know you love the kids from the minor leagues and want to see them playing in St. Louis, I respect that.
And some actually do come thru the system and make an impact.
Of course you need to draft and development internally, we're all for that!
But there's absolutely no way whatsoever to compete for another WS title unless you have a budget ($175M minimum) that allows C. Bloom to fill in the (many) missing pieces this team needs to compete again.
You need both (internal players drafter + traded for or signed established major league talent) to win.
No one knows if there will be a work stoppage, too much to lose on both sides (owners TV money/gates/ect...) and players (massive salaries they would never recoup).
This is a "mid market team" population wise, but they're fan base makes them a large regional team that has drawn near the top of MLB in attendance for decades.
They DON'T lack revenue, haven't for decades.
Unless BDWJr is happy drawing 2.2-2.5M -vs- 3.1-3.4M, then he'll spend.
I don't think C. Bloom would've taken the job w/o this guarantee (he already got shafted in Boston, too smart to let it happen again).
Respect as always, not in agreement here.
Dewitt must give Bloom the same financial payroll support he gave Mo and I think he will.
JMO
Our Minor Leagues development is awful, our prospects aren't up to par with the rest of the league, our middling prospects rival the low tier prospects in every other organization. We've lost our way as an organization....all b/c we tried to keep up with the payroll of others..."within sniffing distance"
We need to build from the ground up, and we're starting to do that. Spending stupid money just to spend stupid money...is...STUPID. I don't want to put us back another decade or two. You have to realize this is what you're wanting to do. Cut down some of those Trees, see the Forest.
Colby Rasmus
Oscar Taveras
Alex Reyes
Dylan Carlson
Jordan Walker
- Took elite arms and never gave them chances to be a SP like Rosenthal and Hicks.
- Rushed Libby to AAA after the Arozarena success in the playoffs then shuttled him back and forth between the rotation and the bullpen in the MLB. Jerked Walker around promoting him and then sending him down after like 2 weeks in back to back years.
- Said 2025 would be the year of the runway for Walker and Gorman and Gorman has barely gotten half the PT he should be getting.
- Signed a player like Contreras and then said they’d move him off of catcher a month into signing him. Then when they got national embarrassment from the move, they changed their tune back to him playing catcher.
- And speaking of catcher, they got the criticism that they didn’t have a catching instructor in the minors.
And that’s off the top of my head.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Shady, my wife is nearing the end of a long battle with cancer, you pathetic piece of s---.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:53 amI am beginning to think you must have slept with most of their wives and girlfriendsShady wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:47 amYou are dealing with one of the many suffering from SDS. Shady Derangement Syndrome. It's like talking to a fence post.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:57 amyou obviously have me mixed up with someone else, it appears that you may be a special needs person,Mort Gage wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:45 amIf you are curious about the reason for your unpopularity on this board here is Exhibit A. Creating sock puppets and having conversations with yourself is pathetic and annoying. Knock it off.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:18 amReally hate to count on walker, he does nothing wellShady wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:10 amBeyond Walker. Five key players development for that to happen. Wetherholt, Saggese, Mathews, Roby and Hence.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
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Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
45 RPM, oh yeah, that's the spin rate of a really bad knuckleball. The hitter often skips it over the wall and the P gets scratched for his next start ............................ oh [shirt], who am I kidding, I remember them. Made decent little frisbees.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:03 pm"45 RPM", what is that?Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:41 amSome guys seem to play the same 45 RPM record over and over until it gets scratchy and skips.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:59 amNot 30 years but after he took over Mo rode the coat tails of what first Walt left him and then second TLR/Albert & Company.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:55 amBloom needs to attain the same overall successful track record that MO has had over the last 30 years. Sure hope he will.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:49 amBingosikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Plus a much smarter baseball man in the POBO office than the one who's wasted so much money the last decade.
Once that regimes DNA was gone, he's floundered miserably.
Bloom may indeed flop.
But change should've came years ago, just glad BDWJr finally realized it...... too bad he was so late in doing so.
But speaking of broken records, they name is cranny.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
You must not think very highly of Shady to think he’d go around sleeping with a lot of married women.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:53 amI am beginning to think you must have slept with most of their wives and girlfriendsShady wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:47 amYou are dealing with one of the many suffering from SDS. Shady Derangement Syndrome. It's like talking to a fence post.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:57 amyou obviously have me mixed up with someone else, it appears that you may be a special needs person,Mort Gage wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:45 amIf you are curious about the reason for your unpopularity on this board here is Exhibit A. Creating sock puppets and having conversations with yourself is pathetic and annoying. Knock it off.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:18 amReally hate to count on walker, he does nothing wellShady wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:10 amBeyond Walker. Five key players development for that to happen. Wetherholt, Saggese, Mathews, Roby and Hence.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
They were stacked on a 45 rpm record player as we turned out lights in the rathskeller and danced cheek to cheek to them.JDW wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:32 pm45 RPM, oh yeah, that's the spin rate of a really bad knuckleball. The hitter often skips it over the wall and the P gets scratched for his next start ............................ oh [shirt], who am I kidding, I remember them. Made decent little frisbees.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:03 pm"45 RPM", what is that?Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:41 amSome guys seem to play the same 45 RPM record over and over until it gets scratchy and skips.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:59 amNot 30 years but after he took over Mo rode the coat tails of what first Walt left him and then second TLR/Albert & Company.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:55 amBloom needs to attain the same overall successful track record that MO has had over the last 30 years. Sure hope he will.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:49 amBingosikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Plus a much smarter baseball man in the POBO office than the one who's wasted so much money the last decade.
Once that regimes DNA was gone, he's floundered miserably.
Bloom may indeed flop.
But change should've came years ago, just glad BDWJr finally realized it...... too bad he was so late in doing so.
But speaking of broken records, they name is cranny.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Sorry to hear that Mort, hang in there.Mort Gage wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:30 pmShady, my wife is nearing the end of a long battle with cancer, you pathetic piece of s---.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:53 amI am beginning to think you must have slept with most of their wives and girlfriendsShady wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:47 amYou are dealing with one of the many suffering from SDS. Shady Derangement Syndrome. It's like talking to a fence post.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:57 amyou obviously have me mixed up with someone else, it appears that you may be a special needs person,Mort Gage wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:45 amIf you are curious about the reason for your unpopularity on this board here is Exhibit A. Creating sock puppets and having conversations with yourself is pathetic and annoying. Knock it off.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:18 amReally hate to count on walker, he does nothing wellShady wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:10 amBeyond Walker. Five key players development for that to happen. Wetherholt, Saggese, Mathews, Roby and Hence.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
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Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Who said that was a bad thing those gals need to get they're freak onFuturegm2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:33 pmYou must not think very highly of Shady to think he’d go around sleeping with a lot of married women.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:53 amI am beginning to think you must have slept with most of their wives and girlfriendsShady wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:47 amYou are dealing with one of the many suffering from SDS. Shady Derangement Syndrome. It's like talking to a fence post.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:57 amyou obviously have me mixed up with someone else, it appears that you may be a special needs person,Mort Gage wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:45 amIf you are curious about the reason for your unpopularity on this board here is Exhibit A. Creating sock puppets and having conversations with yourself is pathetic and annoying. Knock it off.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:18 amReally hate to count on walker, he does nothing wellShady wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:10 amBeyond Walker. Five key players development for that to happen. Wetherholt, Saggese, Mathews, Roby and Hence.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Shady, were you even in the room when your son was conceived? Or were you watching intently from a chair in the corner?Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:45 pmWho said that was a bad thing those gals need to get they're freak onFuturegm2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 12:33 pmYou must not think very highly of Shady to think he’d go around sleeping with a lot of married women.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:53 amI am beginning to think you must have slept with most of their wives and girlfriendsShady wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 11:47 amYou are dealing with one of the many suffering from SDS. Shady Derangement Syndrome. It's like talking to a fence post.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:57 amyou obviously have me mixed up with someone else, it appears that you may be a special needs person,Mort Gage wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:45 amIf you are curious about the reason for your unpopularity on this board here is Exhibit A. Creating sock puppets and having conversations with yourself is pathetic and annoying. Knock it off.Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:18 amReally hate to count on walker, he does nothing wellShady wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:10 amBeyond Walker. Five key players development for that to happen. Wetherholt, Saggese, Mathews, Roby and Hence.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 10:04 amIf our budget goes up to that with cuts and trades, I easily see us relevant in 2027.rockondlouie wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:57 amI see you're still on the job cranny, BDWJr's chief wallet protector.Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:39 amHow will that fit into the budget, Dawg?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:27 am Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.![]()
BTW, the 2026 "budget" needs to be in the $175-180M range.