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3dender wrote: ↑24 May 2025 11:19 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 May 2025 10:57 am

3dender wrote: ↑24 May 2025 10:38 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 May 2025 09:56 am

3dender wrote: ↑24 May 2025 07:11 am A lot of people on this thread don't seem to understand that if they stick with old criteria for SP HOF like wins and K total, there will literally never be another SP inducted after around 2040.

They're gonna have to rely on rate stats and hardware, whether you like it or not.

A lot of people on this thread don’t understand that only throwing 100 innings or more in just 6 of 12 seasons is awful for any time and degrom should not get in because in the future they will have to lower the standards for starters. They should not lower the standards drastically just so degrom should get in that would be horrible and if he gets in waino needs to get in for sure since we are ignoring injuries that hindered their careers

How many pitchers who won at least 2 CYA (with two top-10 MVP finishes) and 1 other top-5 CYA finish and 3 other top 10 CYA finishes are NOT in the HOF?

How many of them are starters who have only thrown 100 innings or more in just 6 of 12 seasons? If you name a couple I may reconsider my opinion. If there are I mean mark fydrich had one and a half healthy seasons was MVP 2 time all star and completed 31 of 40 starts before injuries those are bending numbers he put up. He should not be in the hall of fame because he was derailed by injuries. In the just four years degrom started 30 games he was great but the hall shouldn’t drastically lower standards to let a guy in just because of four seasons in which he was actually able to start

I'll take that as a "none" in response to my question.

Fidrych had one complete season, didn't win a CY (got 2nd) and finished 11 in MVP. That's not a serious comparison to deGrom.