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ramfandan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 09:52 am I saw two videos of Aaron Judge striking out (swing and miss on strike 3) after fouling off just one pitch.
Guess he needs to analyze his stance , etc. in the box too on why he is whiffing like that .

The humorous part of the paralysis by over-analysis on Walker is that in his rookie year without any past experience facing major league pitching, he
had a higher batting average than two All Star players on his own team Goldy AND Arenado both not one time All Stars but perrenial types who may gain recognition in the Hall of Fame possibly.
Yet I don't know how many times I have read where some claim the kid couldn't hit from the time he arrived in St.Louis . Not true
He hit .276 with 16 HR's his rookie year. The kid was just 21 years old . His decline came after .

There is no 'one way' to hit a baseball well. Stances , posture, balance, etc. vary from one guy to another . There have been excellent hitters that start with open stances, squared, an closed. The key is to be repetitive in the way that works for you .

For any of you that play golf or watch golf, you would know that top pros have various swings. Jim Furyk had a huge loop in his swing that NO golf instructor would teach yet he repeated that swing consistently . Arnold Palmer's swing was far different than Jack Nicklaus. Yet when most people go take a golf lesson, the instructor will 'teach' there is a specific way to set up, take the club back etc. It's [nonsense]. Watch the pros.

ramfandan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 09:52 am I saw two videos of Aaron Judge striking out (swing and miss on strike 3) after fouling off just one pitch.
Guess he needs to analyze his stance , etc. in the box too on why he is whiffing like that .

The humorous part of the paralysis by over-analysis on Walker is that in his rookie year without any past experience facing major league pitching, he
had a higher batting average than two All Star players on his own team Goldy AND Arenado both not one time All Stars but perrenial types who may gain recognition in the Hall of Fame possibly.
Yet I don't know how many times I have read where some claim the kid couldn't hit from the time he arrived in St.Louis . Not true
He hit .276 with 16 HR's his rookie year. The kid was just 21 years old . His decline came after .

There is no 'one way' to hit a baseball well. Stances , posture, balance, etc. vary from one guy to another . There have been excellent hitters that start with open stances, squared, an closed. The key is to be repetitive in the way that works for you .

For any of you that play golf or watch golf, you would know that top pros have various swings. Jim Furyk had a huge loop in his swing that NO golf instructor would teach yet he repeated that swing consistently . Arnold Palmer's swing was far different than Jack Nicklaus. Yet when most people go take a golf lesson, the instructor will 'teach' there is a specific way to set up, take the club back etc. It's [nonsense]. Watch the pros.

Goldfan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 10:30 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 09:52 am I saw two videos of Aaron Judge striking out (swing and miss on strike 3) after fouling off just one pitch.
Guess he needs to analyze his stance , etc. in the box too on why he is whiffing like that .

The humorous part of the paralysis by over-analysis on Walker is that in his rookie year without any past experience facing major league pitching, he
had a higher batting average than two All Star players on his own team Goldy AND Arenado both not one time All Stars but perrenial types who may gain recognition in the Hall of Fame possibly.
Yet I don't know how many times I have read where some claim the kid couldn't hit from the time he arrived in St.Louis . Not true
He hit .276 with 16 HR's his rookie year. The kid was just 21 years old . His decline came after .

There is no 'one way' to hit a baseball well. Stances , posture, balance, etc. vary from one guy to another . There have been excellent hitters that start with open stances, squared, an closed. The key is to be repetitive in the way that works for you .

For any of you that play golf or watch golf, you would know that top pros have various swings. Jim Furyk had a huge loop in his swing that NO golf instructor would teach yet he repeated that swing consistently . Arnold Palmer's swing was far different than Jack Nicklaus. Yet when most people go take a golf lesson, the instructor will 'teach' there is a specific way to set up, take the club back etc. It's [nonsense]. Watch the pros.

Both Gorman and Walker had a short window of success when they came up…..the league figured them out…..they’ve been unable to adjust…..AND THE STANCE, Swing, approach that everyone goes back to claiming success…..NO longer works. This isn’t a difficult concept

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 11:01 am Stance and swing don’t cure awful pitch recognition and poor approaches to at bats and poor mental discipline. Once walker got two strikes you knew what he was going to do he was going to call time out step out you already tell he was done he would step back in and proceed to take a fast ball down the middle for strike three or flail at a curveball or slider outside. For Gorman it’s chase a fastball up around his eyes. The perfect stance and swing isn’t going to solve that. Walkers problem is he’s stubborn which he has admitted he is and if you believe brown a bit lazy and Gormans problem is he just isn’t good the both have poor pitch recognition for some it’s not solvable

Melville wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:52 am

Voldemort wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 21:49 pm

Melville wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 20:28 pm

Voldemort wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 20:12 pm

Melville wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:24 pm

Adam2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 13:16 pm It's probably going to be a .220 season. Some players of his size use their length to their advantage. He doesn't. Unfortunately i think he's just going to keep being susceptible and flailing at sliders low and away. MLB pitchers are good enough to keep exposing that. I desperately hope i'm wrong

You are correct.
But there is an answer - which I was first to identify and explain to all.
He needs to close his stance.
That would allow him to fully leverage his length to greatest level of effectiveness.
The Cardinals have stupidly and persistently tried to force him into being a pull happy power hitter hunting inner-half pitches simply because he is big.
Never going to work.
He needs to focus on being a line drive hard contact hitter who feasts on pitches middle and away.
Not popular in today's game - but it is nonetheless exactly what he needs to do.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Have you ever studied hitting? How does closing your stance "leverage his length?" What the hell does that mean? Please explain it.

I will explain it with clarity and perfection, as you kindly requested.
By opening up his stance to hunt inside pitches he hopes to pull (as the coaching staff has stupidly demanded), he leaves himself badly exposed on the outer half.
And pitchers are predictably shredding him there.
Dumb.
His length gives him innate physical advantage to cover more of the hitting zone - both width and height.
And as everyone knows from basic physics, length increases leverage which increases strength.
He is giving away his greatest advantage with his open stance.
Close the stance, cover the hitting zone, and he will automatically make more hard contact - which is all he needs to do.
Natural scientific principles will take it from there.

So, you can't define what you meant. BTW, what you prescribe as a cure will simply enable pitchers to throw inside to him. A closed stance also inhibits the back hip from "getting through" on balls. A closed stance with a hitter who has arms as long as Walker will ensure that the thin part of the bat will be over the plate, so he will get sawed off a lot. The limited video posted of Walker thus far on this site demonstrates that Walker is doing exactly what he needs to do. He is no longer vertically stacked or in a position where he is standing almost straight up and has a limited load. In the video, he is setting pelvic tilt, which will, inturn enable him to have pelvic tilt into lateral tilt. He was not efficient last year.

Incorrect.
You are making the elementary error of confusing a more closed stance with crowding the plate.
Understandable mistake on your part - it is what happens when someone is entrenched in his own assumptions which inevitably limits comprehension.
No one is saying he should have a completley closed stance.
But is absolutely needs to be more closed than it is.
He is simply giving away his natural advantage with the open pull happy stance the team forced him into.
Results are ample evidence of this obvious truth.
He is artificially and unnecessarily trying to create pull power, which given his physical attributes and best skill set, he does not need to do.
Close his stance, start square to the pitcher and the ball, take full advantage of his of his length which provides leverage, and simply focus on making hard contact in the outer half of the zone (everyone is fully aware of the truth that it is far easier to adjust and react on inside pitches than outside pitches) and he will be fine.
Also, as others have noted, pitch recognition has been a challenge which makes an open stance even more problematic as it forces him to make earlier swing decisions - and a more closed stance would help by making him quicker and shorter to the ball.
I suspect you will argue the point simply for the sake of doing so, which is fine.
I am kind and gracious to a fault, always welcoming others to share however they choose.
But my take is indisputably correct - which I can explain further if need be.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 11:01 am Stance and swing don’t cure awful pitch recognition and poor approaches to at bats and poor mental discipline. Once walker got two strikes you knew what he was going to do he was going to call time out step out you already tell he was done he would step back in and proceed to take a fast ball down the middle for strike three or flail at a curveball or slider outside. For Gorman it’s chase a fastball up around his eyes. The perfect stance and swing isn’t going to solve that. Walkers problem is he’s stubborn which he has admitted he is and if you believe brown a bit lazy and Gormans problem is he just isn’t good the both have poor pitch recognition for some it’s not solvable

Voldemort wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:52 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:49 am

Voldemort wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:45 am

Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 03:04 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:20 am I’ve watched many vids from ST
He looks off balanced
Not fluid
Awkward
Rear leg collapsing
A comment I saw on X summarizes it well.
He looks like an athlete from another sport attempting to take BP
He’s cooked.

I’ve only seen 2 videos. Where are you getting many videos? I want to see more. Can’t find them.

Exactly! Two videos are not enough to truly judge what is happening in his swing, though I really like what I see in these two videos. Also, it will be helpful to him and the coaching staff to see his game swings. It is so easy for a hitter to revert to what they did before making changes.

The vid I posted has several swings. And if you think the Judge setup and swing are similar to Walkers…..I don’t know what to say

I didn't say that Judge's swings were similar to Walker's swings. I said that his swings are a vast improvement over his swing from last year. I explained why I thought so. How about you break down the difference between Judge's swing and Walker's swing for all of us?

Bushiro wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 12:30 pm

Voldemort wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:52 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:49 am

Voldemort wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:45 am

Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 03:04 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:20 am I’ve watched many vids from ST
He looks off balanced
Not fluid
Awkward
Rear leg collapsing
A comment I saw on X summarizes it well.
He looks like an athlete from another sport attempting to take BP
He’s cooked.

I’ve only seen 2 videos. Where are you getting many videos? I want to see more. Can’t find them.

Exactly! Two videos are not enough to truly judge what is happening in his swing, though I really like what I see in these two videos. Also, it will be helpful to him and the coaching staff to see his game swings. It is so easy for a hitter to revert to what they did before making changes.

The vid I posted has several swings. And if you think the Judge setup and swing are similar to Walkers…..I don’t know what to say

I didn't say that Judge's swings were similar to Walker's swings. I said that his swings are a vast improvement over his swing from last year. I explained why I thought so. How about you break down the difference between Judge's swing and Walker's swing for all of us?

Very similar swings....Melville is right though...Walker opens up to much...he doesn't have the eye and pitch recognition judge has...so when he tries to pull everything for power...and not having eye means he's toast on anything outside....he has to stay closed more...they should have left him alone the first time

Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 12:27 pm

Melville wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:52 am

Voldemort wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 21:49 pm

Melville wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 20:28 pm

Voldemort wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 20:12 pm

Melville wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 19:24 pm

Adam2 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 13:16 pm It's probably going to be a .220 season. Some players of his size use their length to their advantage. He doesn't. Unfortunately i think he's just going to keep being susceptible and flailing at sliders low and away. MLB pitchers are good enough to keep exposing that. I desperately hope i'm wrong

You are correct.
But there is an answer - which I was first to identify and explain to all.
He needs to close his stance.
That would allow him to fully leverage his length to greatest level of effectiveness.
The Cardinals have stupidly and persistently tried to force him into being a pull happy power hitter hunting inner-half pitches simply because he is big.
Never going to work.
He needs to focus on being a line drive hard contact hitter who feasts on pitches middle and away.
Not popular in today's game - but it is nonetheless exactly what he needs to do.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Have you ever studied hitting? How does closing your stance "leverage his length?" What the hell does that mean? Please explain it.

I will explain it with clarity and perfection, as you kindly requested.
By opening up his stance to hunt inside pitches he hopes to pull (as the coaching staff has stupidly demanded), he leaves himself badly exposed on the outer half.
And pitchers are predictably shredding him there.
Dumb.
His length gives him innate physical advantage to cover more of the hitting zone - both width and height.
And as everyone knows from basic physics, length increases leverage which increases strength.
He is giving away his greatest advantage with his open stance.
Close the stance, cover the hitting zone, and he will automatically make more hard contact - which is all he needs to do.
Natural scientific principles will take it from there.

So, you can't define what you meant. BTW, what you prescribe as a cure will simply enable pitchers to throw inside to him. A closed stance also inhibits the back hip from "getting through" on balls. A closed stance with a hitter who has arms as long as Walker will ensure that the thin part of the bat will be over the plate, so he will get sawed off a lot. The limited video posted of Walker thus far on this site demonstrates that Walker is doing exactly what he needs to do. He is no longer vertically stacked or in a position where he is standing almost straight up and has a limited load. In the video, he is setting pelvic tilt, which will, inturn enable him to have pelvic tilt into lateral tilt. He was not efficient last year.

Incorrect.
You are making the elementary error of confusing a more closed stance with crowding the plate.
Understandable mistake on your part - it is what happens when someone is entrenched in his own assumptions which inevitably limits comprehension.
No one is saying he should have a completley closed stance.
But is absolutely needs to be more closed than it is.
He is simply giving away his natural advantage with the open pull happy stance the team forced him into.
Results are ample evidence of this obvious truth.
He is artificially and unnecessarily trying to create pull power, which given his physical attributes and best skill set, he does not need to do.
Close his stance, start square to the pitcher and the ball, take full advantage of his of his length which provides leverage, and simply focus on making hard contact in the outer half of the zone (everyone is fully aware of the truth that it is far easier to adjust and react on inside pitches than outside pitches) and he will be fine.
Also, as others have noted, pitch recognition has been a challenge which makes an open stance even more problematic as it forces him to make earlier swing decisions - and a more closed stance would help by making him quicker and shorter to the ball.
I suspect you will argue the point simply for the sake of doing so, which is fine.
I am kind and gracious to a fault, always welcoming others to share however they choose.
But my take is indisputably correct - which I can explain further if need be.

It’s hard to tell from the angle of the video, but his stance looks more closed than last year and he’s stepping towards the pitcher now.
I used to complain, watching him about his open stance and stepping out. The video looks totally different to me now. It would be better to see one from the front angle.

Bushiro wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 12:30 pm

Voldemort wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:52 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:49 am

Voldemort wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:45 am

Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 03:04 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:20 am I’ve watched many vids from ST
He looks off balanced
Not fluid
Awkward
Rear leg collapsing
A comment I saw on X summarizes it well.
He looks like an athlete from another sport attempting to take BP
He’s cooked.

I’ve only seen 2 videos. Where are you getting many videos? I want to see more. Can’t find them.

Exactly! Two videos are not enough to truly judge what is happening in his swing, though I really like what I see in these two videos. Also, it will be helpful to him and the coaching staff to see his game swings. It is so easy for a hitter to revert to what they did before making changes.

The vid I posted has several swings. And if you think the Judge setup and swing are similar to Walkers…..I don’t know what to say

I didn't say that Judge's swings were similar to Walker's swings. I said that his swings are a vast improvement over his swing from last year. I explained why I thought so. How about you break down the difference between Judge's swing and Walker's swing for all of us?

Very similar swings....Melville is right though...Walker opens up to much...he doesn't have the eye and pitch recognition judge has...so when he tries to pull everything for power...and not having eye means he's toast on anything outside....he has to stay closed more...they should have left him alone the first time

Bushiro wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 12:30 pm

Voldemort wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:52 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:49 am

Voldemort wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:45 am

Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 03:04 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:20 am I’ve watched many vids from ST
He looks off balanced
Not fluid
Awkward
Rear leg collapsing
A comment I saw on X summarizes it well.
He looks like an athlete from another sport attempting to take BP
He’s cooked.

I’ve only seen 2 videos. Where are you getting many videos? I want to see more. Can’t find them.

Exactly! Two videos are not enough to truly judge what is happening in his swing, though I really like what I see in these two videos. Also, it will be helpful to him and the coaching staff to see his game swings. It is so easy for a hitter to revert to what they did before making changes.

The vid I posted has several swings. And if you think the Judge setup and swing are similar to Walkers…..I don’t know what to say

I didn't say that Judge's swings were similar to Walker's swings. I said that his swings are a vast improvement over his swing from last year. I explained why I thought so. How about you break down the difference between Judge's swing and Walker's swing for all of us?

Very similar swings....Melville is right though...Walker opens up to much...he doesn't have the eye and pitch recognition judge has...so when he tries to pull everything for power...and not having eye means he's toast on anything outside....he has to stay closed more...they should have left him alone the first time

Melville wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 12:41 pm

Bushiro wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 12:30 pm

Voldemort wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:52 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:49 am

Voldemort wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:45 am

Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 03:04 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:20 am I’ve watched many vids from ST
He looks off balanced
Not fluid
Awkward
Rear leg collapsing
A comment I saw on X summarizes it well.
He looks like an athlete from another sport attempting to take BP
He’s cooked.

I’ve only seen 2 videos. Where are you getting many videos? I want to see more. Can’t find them.

Exactly! Two videos are not enough to truly judge what is happening in his swing, though I really like what I see in these two videos. Also, it will be helpful to him and the coaching staff to see his game swings. It is so easy for a hitter to revert to what they did before making changes.

The vid I posted has several swings. And if you think the Judge setup and swing are similar to Walkers…..I don’t know what to say

I didn't say that Judge's swings were similar to Walker's swings. I said that his swings are a vast improvement over his swing from last year. I explained why I thought so. How about you break down the difference between Judge's swing and Walker's swing for all of us?

Very similar swings....Melville is right though...Walker opens up to much...he doesn't have the eye and pitch recognition judge has...so when he tries to pull everything for power...and not having eye means he's toast on anything outside....he has to stay closed more...they should have left him alone the first time

Absolutely correct on every detail.
Excellent post.

Voldemort wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 13:07 pm

Melville wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 12:41 pm

Bushiro wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 12:30 pm

Voldemort wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:52 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:49 am

Voldemort wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 08:45 am

Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 03:04 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:20 am I’ve watched many vids from ST
He looks off balanced
Not fluid
Awkward
Rear leg collapsing
A comment I saw on X summarizes it well.
He looks like an athlete from another sport attempting to take BP
He’s cooked.

I’ve only seen 2 videos. Where are you getting many videos? I want to see more. Can’t find them.

Exactly! Two videos are not enough to truly judge what is happening in his swing, though I really like what I see in these two videos. Also, it will be helpful to him and the coaching staff to see his game swings. It is so easy for a hitter to revert to what they did before making changes.

The vid I posted has several swings. And if you think the Judge setup and swing are similar to Walkers…..I don’t know what to say

I didn't say that Judge's swings were similar to Walker's swings. I said that his swings are a vast improvement over his swing from last year. I explained why I thought so. How about you break down the difference between Judge's swing and Walker's swing for all of us?

Very similar swings....Melville is right though...Walker opens up to much...he doesn't have the eye and pitch recognition judge has...so when he tries to pull everything for power...and not having eye means he's toast on anything outside....he has to stay closed more...they should have left him alone the first time

Absolutely correct on every detail.
Excellent post.

That a boy! Move that goal post. You said that he needed a closed stance. Myself and others have been mentioning that his stance is better this year with a part of that being that he was not so open. Now, you move that goal post to give the impression that you meant that he needed to be closer to square. ROFLMAO! You are not doing well in your character today.