the miracle wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026 20:42 pm
I'll save anyone the trouble if they're tempted to watch the video - the content is basically if they went to ChatGPT and said "please summarize the contents of Blues Talk".
- shouldn't have let Petro go
- how bad is it that Thomas is on the market?
- must trade Kyrou (because. . . reasons)
If you're tempted to watch it, you can definitely skip it.
We really need some new outrage around here. Here's some: why doesn't anybody blame Army for the biggest blunder ever - trading Lars Eller? Dude could have shored up 2C for 15 years for the Blues. Terrible trade.
Good post. I'm not sure if it was the "biggest" blunder, but it was questionable trade then and yes terrible looking back. I did not like it ever.
But getting back to Pietrangelo: Yes he was a great player for us. He was here and a very important player for us for a long time, and he was Captain of the Stanley Cup winning team...so if he gets a statue that won't bother me. Heck, I wish they put a quite a few more players out there, similar to what the Cardinals have done to honor the history and memories. Of course, because of space restraints only Musial's is bigger, so maybe the Blues ought to start with more smaller ones in that big area near the garage & that side corner entrance?
However, there is another fact that should not interfere with any honors or statues for Pietrangelo beyond his play and contribution: He was not a standout Leader. He as well as Backes were not so much disliked by their teammates, but neither of them did much to draw the team together outside of the rink, after practice or on the road. It's not like they didn't care about them, but they were fairly self-centered in their outside interests, standoffish to a degree. People want to be inspired. Their play helped with doing that for their teammates, but nothing beyond that. Some teammates felt something missing, a little disconnected. In that environment, informal leaders standout...that can be good, or it could be bad. How many times have you had a boss whom was okay, you worked fine together, but it just all wasn't there?
The goal is to get from Good to Great. It's pointless to knock Pietrangelo, but also to ignore the business facts of spending constraints and the whole team costs and big picture.
Excellent post that should not be denied.
What’s excellent about that post? It’s mostly conjecture and opinion on leadership. Tea leaves and bias
At the end of the day and in reality, a team Canada group picked a veteran Pietrangelo to lead Team Canada. He was named with 2 complete legends to lead that team.
You’ll never see another Blues D-man receive that honor before you’re 6 feet under.
It would be criminal if there wasn’t one of him hoisting the cup. It was one of the best cup raises in nhl history
I don't begrudge Chopper having a statue here at all, but it does stand out as a bit odd with Hull and Bernie. Petro raising that cup is burned in my memory so I hope they'd put a statue of it up there. It's absolutely one of the best. My personal iconic cup raises are Petro, Raymond Bourque, Messier in NYR (not a fan just stands out as a great story), and Crosby in 2016. You know that one was huge for him personally as he had a run of injuries and so-so playoffs for a few years after the first cup.
I don’t know how they decide who gets a statue. But Al, Hull, and Bernie are all hall of famers and Petro isn’t, at least not yet. Al also won a Norris and Hull won a Hart.
Ask Chopper if he’d trade that Norris for a ring in STL. Chopper was a better pp man than Pietrangelo, but Pietrangelo was better at ES. I also believe Pietrangelo was the better defender…he definitely had the better defensive stick. Chopper also played with better high end players over his tenure.
Regardless, Pietrangelo accomplished more for the franchise than Chopper did, wore the C, and their numbers are a wash really.
the miracle wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026 20:42 pm
I'll save anyone the trouble if they're tempted to watch the video - the content is basically if they went to ChatGPT and said "please summarize the contents of Blues Talk".
- shouldn't have let Petro go
- how bad is it that Thomas is on the market?
- must trade Kyrou (because. . . reasons)
If you're tempted to watch it, you can definitely skip it.
We really need some new outrage around here. Here's some: why doesn't anybody blame Army for the biggest blunder ever - trading Lars Eller? Dude could have shored up 2C for 15 years for the Blues. Terrible trade.
Good post. I'm not sure if it was the "biggest" blunder, but it was questionable trade then and yes terrible looking back. I did not like it ever.
But getting back to Pietrangelo: Yes he was a great player for us. He was here and a very important player for us for a long time, and he was Captain of the Stanley Cup winning team...so if he gets a statue that won't bother me. Heck, I wish they put a quite a few more players out there, similar to what the Cardinals have done to honor the history and memories. Of course, because of space restraints only Musial's is bigger, so maybe the Blues ought to start with more smaller ones in that big area near the garage & that side corner entrance?
However, there is another fact that should not interfere with any honors or statues for Pietrangelo beyond his play and contribution: He was not a standout Leader. He as well as Backes were not so much disliked by their teammates, but neither of them did much to draw the team together outside of the rink, after practice or on the road. It's not like they didn't care about them, but they were fairly self-centered in their outside interests, standoffish to a degree. People want to be inspired. Their play helped with doing that for their teammates, but nothing beyond that. Some teammates felt something missing, a little disconnected. In that environment, informal leaders standout...that can be good, or it could be bad. How many times have you had a boss whom was okay, you worked fine together, but it just all wasn't there?
The goal is to get from Good to Great. It's pointless to knock Pietrangelo, but also to ignore the business facts of spending constraints and the whole team costs and big picture.
Excellent post that should not be denied.
What’s excellent about that post? It’s mostly conjecture and opinion on leadership. Tea leaves and bias
At the end of the day and in reality, a team Canada group picked a veteran Pietrangelo to lead Team Canada. He was named with 2 complete legends to lead that team.
You’ll never see another Blues D-man receive that honor before you’re 6 feet under.
But they don’t understand leadership lol
No conjecture and no hearsay...straight from a few of the "horses'" mouths. Conjecture would be your prediction of what honor(s) that a Blues' defenseman will or will not receive in the future. And you have no idea with whom/what experience that you're engaging on the subject of leadership.
You're not going to change anyone's opinion on this Forum that they may have already formed about you.
the miracle wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026 20:42 pm
I'll save anyone the trouble if they're tempted to watch the video - the content is basically if they went to ChatGPT and said "please summarize the contents of Blues Talk".
- shouldn't have let Petro go
- how bad is it that Thomas is on the market?
- must trade Kyrou (because. . . reasons)
If you're tempted to watch it, you can definitely skip it.
We really need some new outrage around here. Here's some: why doesn't anybody blame Army for the biggest blunder ever - trading Lars Eller? Dude could have shored up 2C for 15 years for the Blues. Terrible trade.
Good post. I'm not sure if it was the "biggest" blunder, but it was questionable trade then and yes terrible looking back. I did not like it ever.
But getting back to Pietrangelo: Yes he was a great player for us. He was here and a very important player for us for a long time, and he was Captain of the Stanley Cup winning team...so if he gets a statue that won't bother me. Heck, I wish they put a quite a few more players out there, similar to what the Cardinals have done to honor the history and memories. Of course, because of space restraints only Musial's is bigger, so maybe the Blues ought to start with more smaller ones in that big area near the garage & that side corner entrance?
However, there is another fact that should not interfere with any honors or statues for Pietrangelo beyond his play and contribution: He was not a standout Leader. He as well as Backes were not so much disliked by their teammates, but neither of them did much to draw the team together outside of the rink, after practice or on the road. It's not like they didn't care about them, but they were fairly self-centered in their outside interests, standoffish to a degree. People want to be inspired. Their play helped with doing that for their teammates, but nothing beyond that. Some teammates felt something missing, a little disconnected. In that environment, informal leaders standout...that can be good, or it could be bad. How many times have you had a boss whom was okay, you worked fine together, but it just all wasn't there?
The goal is to get from Good to Great. It's pointless to knock Pietrangelo, but also to ignore the business facts of spending constraints and the whole team costs and big picture.
Excellent post that should not be denied.
What’s excellent about that post? It’s mostly conjecture and opinion on leadership. Tea leaves and bias
At the end of the day and in reality, a team Canada group picked a veteran Pietrangelo to lead Team Canada. He was named with 2 complete legends to lead that team.
You’ll never see another Blues D-man receive that honor before you’re 6 feet under.
But they don’t understand leadership lol
No conjecture and no hearsay...straight from a few of the "horses'" mouths.
Like who? Quote them. Post some links. Do you even understand what hearsay means lol
At the end of the day the best collection of players assembled … maybe ever … and Pietrangelo was named to lead that team with McDavid and Crosby. You’ll be in your grave before it happens again…maybe your kids too.
“Petro's our leader, probably our best player most nights. The way he played this year with this whole situation was extremely impressive. We play our whole careers to win the Cup. I think he wants to feel like he's respected. He wants to feel like he gets his share of things. I think he deserves it too. He’s a Hofer no question.”
the miracle wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026 20:42 pm
I'll save anyone the trouble if they're tempted to watch the video - the content is basically if they went to ChatGPT and said "please summarize the contents of Blues Talk".
- shouldn't have let Petro go
- how bad is it that Thomas is on the market?
- must trade Kyrou (because. . . reasons)
If you're tempted to watch it, you can definitely skip it.
We really need some new outrage around here. Here's some: why doesn't anybody blame Army for the biggest blunder ever - trading Lars Eller? Dude could have shored up 2C for 15 years for the Blues. Terrible trade.
Good post. I'm not sure if it was the "biggest" blunder, but it was questionable trade then and yes terrible looking back. I did not like it ever.
But getting back to Pietrangelo: Yes he was a great player for us. He was here and a very important player for us for a long time, and he was Captain of the Stanley Cup winning team...so if he gets a statue that won't bother me. Heck, I wish they put a quite a few more players out there, similar to what the Cardinals have done to honor the history and memories. Of course, because of space restraints only Musial's is bigger, so maybe the Blues ought to start with more smaller ones in that big area near the garage & that side corner entrance?
However, there is another fact that should not interfere with any honors or statues for Pietrangelo beyond his play and contribution: He was not a standout Leader. He as well as Backes were not so much disliked by their teammates, but neither of them did much to draw the team together outside of the rink, after practice or on the road. It's not like they didn't care about them, but they were fairly self-centered in their outside interests, standoffish to a degree. People want to be inspired. Their play helped with doing that for their teammates, but nothing beyond that. Some teammates felt something missing, a little disconnected. In that environment, informal leaders standout...that can be good, or it could be bad. How many times have you had a boss whom was okay, you worked fine together, but it just all wasn't there?
The goal is to get from Good to Great. It's pointless to knock Pietrangelo, but also to ignore the business facts of spending constraints and the whole team costs and big picture.
Excellent post that should not be denied.
What’s excellent about that post? It’s mostly conjecture and opinion on leadership. Tea leaves and bias
At the end of the day and in reality, a team Canada group picked a veteran Pietrangelo to lead Team Canada. He was named with 2 complete legends to lead that team.
You’ll never see another Blues D-man receive that honor before you’re 6 feet under.
But they don’t understand leadership lol
No conjecture and no hearsay...straight from a few of the "horses'" mouths. Conjecture would be your prediction of what honor(s) that a Blues' defenseman will or will not receive in the future. And you have no idea with whom/what experience that you're engaging on the subject of leadership.
You're not going to change anyone's opinion on this Forum that they may have already formed about you.
He's just another Glow Stick! Ya just want to snap him and wait till the light comes on.
ROR the Captain of the 2019 Blues Cup run. Best player for the Blues all season. In the dark times he showed up first and left the ice last. In the good times he showed up first and left the ice last. In the Cup finals he showed up and Left the Ice as the Best player of the playoffs.
callitwhatyouwant wrote: ↑30 Jan 2026 20:51 pm
Best player of the playoffs.
Post his numbers the first half where he was awful and carried.
Laughing
What does it matter? He came on hard the second half and LED the Blues to the Cup while garnering several individual awards including the Conn-Smythe.
I know your feelings are hurt that your boy didn't do that.
Laughing even more.
Well it matters because he wouldn’t have had that opportunity to heat up if he wasn’t carried the first half. You understand?
Lots of guys led. That’s what happens. Schwartz led, pietrangelo led. He led the the entire NHL in assists…as a dman. ROR was great the 2nd half. He was a big contributor…especially in the last series at the end. He and pietrangelo killed the Bruins there
