You described the characteristics of a 26th man, and have examples. To display why TS won’t be that guy. Never say never. It exposes you to crow later.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:11 amI didn’t predict anything. I stated what it took to be my 26 man, and correlated his stats previously posted. Then I described the position with former examples.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:08 amNever say never. Predicting the future with assuredness only leaves you exposed to possible future ridicule.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:04 amNo. To be the 26 man you need to bunt, run, play superior late defense. His poor ratings greatly out weigh the benefits.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:00 amCould be an excellent utility player for the Birds.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed
The 26 man is a master of jack of all trades. Vic Davillio. Matty Alou.
What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
Ok. I didn’t - to display anything. Those things displayed where his stats previously posted. Did you see them?Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:17 amYou described the characteristics of a 26th man, and have examples. To display why TS won’t be that guy. Never say never. It exposes you to crow later.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:11 amI didn’t predict anything. I stated what it took to be my 26 man, and correlated his stats previously posted. Then I described the position with former examples.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:08 amNever say never. Predicting the future with assuredness only leaves you exposed to possible future ridicule.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:04 amNo. To be the 26 man you need to bunt, run, play superior late defense. His poor ratings greatly out weigh the benefits.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:00 amCould be an excellent utility player for the Birds.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed
The 26 man is a master of jack of all trades. Vic Davillio. Matty Alou.
They show him poorly. They do the prediction. The stat stands alone. I just agree or disagree.
As do you.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
Agree! Thomas is a very talented versatile player. Much like Donovan, Saggese is a gamer. Injuries and poor ST performances could provide an opening for Thomas.StlMike1969 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2026 14:38 pm If Nootbar or Walker do not get their act together, Thomas will be getting his chance along with Church.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
Do you mean his stats as a young 23 year old, getting his first few hundred plate appearances at the major league level?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:20 amOk. I didn’t - to display anything. Those things displayed where his stats previously posted. Did you see them?Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:17 amYou described the characteristics of a 26th man, and have examples. To display why TS won’t be that guy. Never say never. It exposes you to crow later.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:11 amI didn’t predict anything. I stated what it took to be my 26 man, and correlated his stats previously posted. Then I described the position with former examples.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:08 amNever say never. Predicting the future with assuredness only leaves you exposed to possible future ridicule.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:04 amNo. To be the 26 man you need to bunt, run, play superior late defense. His poor ratings greatly out weigh the benefits.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:00 amCould be an excellent utility player for the Birds.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed
The 26 man is a master of jack of all trades. Vic Davillio. Matty Alou.
They show him poorly. They do the prediction. The stat stands alone. I just agree or disagree.
As do you.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
If. Those stats posted correspondence with your notion, then yes. To be clear. I haven’t stated he sucks or isn’t a good 26 man. I said no, as his living stats don’t show promise as a predictor of future performance.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:59 amDo you mean his stats as a young 23 year old, getting his first few hundred plate appearances at the major league level?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:20 amOk. I didn’t - to display anything. Those things displayed where his stats previously posted. Did you see them?Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:17 amYou described the characteristics of a 26th man, and have examples. To display why TS won’t be that guy. Never say never. It exposes you to crow later.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:11 amI didn’t predict anything. I stated what it took to be my 26 man, and correlated his stats previously posted. Then I described the position with former examples.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:08 amNever say never. Predicting the future with assuredness only leaves you exposed to possible future ridicule.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:04 amNo. To be the 26 man you need to bunt, run, play superior late defense. His poor ratings greatly out weigh the benefits.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:00 amCould be an excellent utility player for the Birds.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed
The 26 man is a master of jack of all trades. Vic Davillio. Matty Alou.
They show him poorly. They do the prediction. The stat stands alone. I just agree or disagree.
As do you.
That’s what they’re there for. Stats.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
WLTFE wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:13 am+1...using logic will get you nowhere...you have to believe and hope that all Cardinals prospects will be stars!... and then (A female canine animal, especially a dog) at anyone who disagrees...rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
SB - You mean like 2 years ago, when as a 21 year old at AA, he slashed .306/.374/.530/.903 with 26 HR and 111 RBI in 139 games? Led the minors in hits and total bases? Those type of "stats"?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 10:05 amIf. Those stats posted correspondence with your notion, then yes. To be clear. I haven’t stated he sucks or isn’t a good 26 man. I said no, as his living stats don’t show promise as a predictor of future performance.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:59 amDo you mean his stats as a young 23 year old, getting his first few hundred plate appearances at the major league level?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:20 amOk. I didn’t - to display anything. Those things displayed where his stats previously posted. Did you see them?Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:17 amYou described the characteristics of a 26th man, and have examples. To display why TS won’t be that guy. Never say never. It exposes you to crow later.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:11 amI didn’t predict anything. I stated what it took to be my 26 man, and correlated his stats previously posted. Then I described the position with former examples.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:08 amNever say never. Predicting the future with assuredness only leaves you exposed to possible future ridicule.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:04 amNo. To be the 26 man you need to bunt, run, play superior late defense. His poor ratings greatly out weigh the benefits.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:00 amCould be an excellent utility player for the Birds.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed
The 26 man is a master of jack of all trades. Vic Davillio. Matty Alou.
They show him poorly. They do the prediction. The stat stands alone. I just agree or disagree.
As do you.
That’s what they’re there for. Stats.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 10:23 amWLTFE wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:13 am+1...using logic will get you nowhere...you have to believe and hope that all Cardinals prospects will be stars!... and then (A female canine animal, especially a dog) at anyone who disagrees...rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed![]()
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
I never have watched a baseball game in my life, guy. Let's grab some wine coolers and chit chat about the WNBA, I will school you, pal.Terrible take, guy.
Do some research. Have you followed him before this past season?