imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑26 Jan 2026 17:07 pmI'll give you five excellent reasons:Why not Gorman at first.
.205/.296/.370/.666/88
And if he has to throw home, it will be "throw it at the bull" time.
Why not Gorman at first.
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Re: Why not Gorman at first.
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Re: Why not Gorman at first.
Am I remembering AB's 2024 there wrong? I thought I remember his metrics as better thanClassicO wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026 16:42 pmI agree that no one is worse than Jose.renostl wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026 16:30 pmWith the roster looking predictable, it mayClassicO wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026 16:18 pm Let's revisit these threads that want awful defensive players like Burly and Gorman at 1B about halfway through the season.
People are going to be screaming about how bad the lousy 1st base defense is hurting us -- and denying they advocated for it.
It will bring back memories of the days of Jose Martinez over there...
not have anything to do with WANT.
Burleson is better than Martinez there.
It's inaccurate to suggest people want this but Freeman
not coming.
Burleson is a probable, Gorman gets a run.
IF Gorman hits well enough to play and he's not DHing
that day since IH, and AB are still here, where would you put
him?
Burley had only 356 innings at 1b last year (38 starts), and the results weren't good (-3 DRS, which put him 31st among 41 players with more than 350 innings).
You're right that the options are slim, and they'll try some hack over there. Only a minor part of the frustration we'll feel in 2026.
I would put Gorman at 1B before Burly, but as much as I hope NG will hit, I'm not holding my breath. He and JW have a total lack of pitch recognition.
Goldy's. 1B being measured as it is, we need something though to compare beyond my eyes and memory.
Burleson provides a floor with a upside that hasn't happened and might not.
20 HR's and 25 2B isn't enough for his profile, imo. In a
decent deal I'd move him keep Donnie as both bats become very similar in the whole 1 base at a
time offense and BD is versatile. Lets you split 1B with NG and IH.
The likely better glove goes to 3B with JJ, BD are someone behind him in the organization
has a glove to follow him.
Gorman with his -9 OAA at 3B mostly due to inaccurate throws isn't sustainable. 1B takes
that and his injury history and improves his situation a little.
Re: Why not Gorman at first.
Maybeimetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026 17:00 pm BUMP
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑26 Jan 2026 17:07 pmI'll give you five excellent reasons:Why not Gorman at first.
.205/.296/.370/.666/88
And if he has to throw home, it will be "throw it at the bull" time.
Was 400 innings in 2025 who he is? unsustainable if yes, quick to
find out actually. ST and April should do.
Certainly less frequent than most throws on the field.
He has to hit.
Re: Why not Gorman at first.
He only started 15 games at 1b in 2024, with only 117 innings. He scored better in 2024 (+2 DRS; 1 OAA), but again, that's a short sample, and a +2 DRS doesn't even put you in the top 17. He went downhill with more (still not a lot of games) in 2025.renostl wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026 17:01 pmAm I remembering AB's 2024 there wrong? I thought I remember his metrics as better thanClassicO wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026 16:42 pmI agree that no one is worse than Jose.renostl wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026 16:30 pmWith the roster looking predictable, it mayClassicO wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026 16:18 pm Let's revisit these threads that want awful defensive players like Burly and Gorman at 1B about halfway through the season.
People are going to be screaming about how bad the lousy 1st base defense is hurting us -- and denying they advocated for it.
It will bring back memories of the days of Jose Martinez over there...
not have anything to do with WANT.
Burleson is better than Martinez there.
It's inaccurate to suggest people want this but Freeman
not coming.
Burleson is a probable, Gorman gets a run.
IF Gorman hits well enough to play and he's not DHing
that day since IH, and AB are still here, where would you put
him?
Burley had only 356 innings at 1b last year (38 starts), and the results weren't good (-3 DRS, which put him 31st among 41 players with more than 350 innings).
You're right that the options are slim, and they'll try some hack over there. Only a minor part of the frustration we'll feel in 2026.
I would put Gorman at 1B before Burly, but as much as I hope NG will hit, I'm not holding my breath. He and JW have a total lack of pitch recognition.
Goldy's. 1B being measured as it is, we need something though to compare beyond my eyes and memory.
Burleson provides a floor with a upside that hasn't happened and might not.
20 HR's and 25 2B isn't enough for his profile, imo. In a
decent deal I'd move him keep Donnie as both bats become very similar in the whole 1 base at a
time offense and BD is versatile. Lets you split 1B with NG and IH.
The likely better glove goes to 3B with JJ, BD are someone behind him in the organization
has a glove to follow him.
Gorman with his -9 OAA at 3B mostly due to inaccurate throws isn't sustainable. 1B takes
that and his injury history and improves his situation a little.
Re: Why not Gorman at first.
Thanks sorry about a very slow response.ClassicO wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026 18:25 pmHe only started 15 games at 1b in 2024, with only 117 innings. He scored better in 2024 (+2 DRS; 1 OAA), but again, that's a short sample, and a +2 DRS doesn't even put you in the top 17. He went downhill with more (still not a lot of games) in 2025.renostl wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026 17:01 pmAm I remembering AB's 2024 there wrong? I thought I remember his metrics as better thanClassicO wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026 16:42 pmI agree that no one is worse than Jose.renostl wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026 16:30 pmWith the roster looking predictable, it mayClassicO wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026 16:18 pm Let's revisit these threads that want awful defensive players like Burly and Gorman at 1B about halfway through the season.
People are going to be screaming about how bad the lousy 1st base defense is hurting us -- and denying they advocated for it.
It will bring back memories of the days of Jose Martinez over there...
not have anything to do with WANT.
Burleson is better than Martinez there.
It's inaccurate to suggest people want this but Freeman
not coming.
Burleson is a probable, Gorman gets a run.
IF Gorman hits well enough to play and he's not DHing
that day since IH, and AB are still here, where would you put
him?
Burley had only 356 innings at 1b last year (38 starts), and the results weren't good (-3 DRS, which put him 31st among 41 players with more than 350 innings).
You're right that the options are slim, and they'll try some hack over there. Only a minor part of the frustration we'll feel in 2026.
I would put Gorman at 1B before Burly, but as much as I hope NG will hit, I'm not holding my breath. He and JW have a total lack of pitch recognition.
Goldy's. 1B being measured as it is, we need something though to compare beyond my eyes and memory.
Burleson provides a floor with a upside that hasn't happened and might not.
20 HR's and 25 2B isn't enough for his profile, imo. In a
decent deal I'd move him keep Donnie as both bats become very similar in the whole 1 base at a
time offense and BD is versatile. Lets you split 1B with NG and IH.
The likely better glove goes to 3B with JJ, BD are someone behind him in the organization
has a glove to follow him.
Gorman with his -9 OAA at 3B mostly due to inaccurate throws isn't sustainable. 1B takes
that and his injury history and improves his situation a little.