Trouble in Toronto

[theograce]

I'm not a big Marner fan but to think you can lose him with the kind of numbers he put up and replace that with...nothing...was never going to go well.

They’ve just been through so much emotionally over the past several years too. The pressures of Toronto are so intense. I think last year took a lot out of them. They should have beat the Panthers imo.

I was at Game 3 and that was the crossroads. The Leafs are up 2-0 in the series and I think 2-0 in the game...and the Panthers came back to win in OT on a Marchand goal. The Leafs never recovered mentally from that. I am sure the pressure doesn't help at all. When a game/series starts to turn like that, all the players - subconsciously - are hearing the Toronto media and fans simultaneously screaming.

They hit the post in OT. Inch away from going up 3-0 on the champs. The guys have a ton of pressure. Berube has pressure too. I’m just not sure he’s the guy. He has problems relating to this gen when emotions are involved.

[MiamiLaw]

I'm not a big Marner fan but to think you can lose him with the kind of numbers he put up and replace that with...nothing...was never going to go well.

They’ve just been through so much emotionally over the past several years too. The pressures of Toronto are so intense. I think last year took a lot out of them. They should have beat the Panthers imo.

I was at Game 3 and that was the crossroads. The Leafs are up 2-0 in the series and I think 2-0 in the game...and the Panthers came back to win in OT on a Marchand goal. The Leafs never recovered mentally from that. I am sure the pressure doesn't help at all. When a game/series starts to turn like that, all the players - subconsciously - are hearing the Toronto media and fans simultaneously screaming.

They hit the post in OT. Inch away from going up 3-0 on the champs. The guys have a ton of pressure. Berube has pressure too. I’m just not sure he’s the guy. He has problems relating to this gen when emotions are involved.

Two Leaf OT breakaways too if I recall. That was a crazy game.

[theograce]

I'm not a big Marner fan but to think you can lose him with the kind of numbers he put up and replace that with...nothing...was never going to go well.

They’ve just been through so much emotionally over the past several years too. The pressures of Toronto are so intense. I think last year took a lot out of them. They should have beat the Panthers imo.

I was at Game 3 and that was the crossroads. The Leafs are up 2-0 in the series and I think 2-0 in the game...and the Panthers came back to win in OT on a Marchand goal. The Leafs never recovered mentally from that. I am sure the pressure doesn't help at all. When a game/series starts to turn like that, all the players - subconsciously - are hearing the Toronto media and fans simultaneously screaming.

They hit the post in OT. Inch away from going up 3-0 on the champs. The guys have a ton of pressure. Berube has pressure too. I’m just not sure he’s the guy. He has problems relating to this gen when emotions are involved.

Two Leaf OT breakaways too if I recall. That was a crazy game.

I believe the Leafs could have won the Cup last year and would have. The Oilers are spent psychologically too. They’ve been through even more. I know guys in EDM that have told me it’s really taken its toll

[Jeff Goldblum]

Why is everybody so soft in Canada?

[TheJackBurton]

I'm not a big Marner fan but to think you can lose him with the kind of numbers he put up and replace that with...nothing...was never going to go well.

They’ve just been through so much emotionally over the past several years too. The pressures of Toronto are so intense. I think last year took a lot out of them. They should have beat the Panthers imo.

I was at Game 3 and that was the crossroads. The Leafs are up 2-0 in the series and I think 2-0 in the game...and the Panthers came back to win in OT on a Marchand goal. The Leafs never recovered mentally from that. I am sure the pressure doesn't help at all. When a game/series starts to turn like that, all the players - subconsciously - are hearing the Toronto media and fans simultaneously screaming.

with their goaltending the Maple Leafs weren't going to beat the Oilers, and likely wouldn't have beaten the Canes to be honest. Sometimes getting over those major hurdles drain you so much that you have nothing left for that next round like we saw with the blues in 2017.

Florida on the other hand completely owns the Canes in the postseason to the point it would be less embarrassing for the Canes to just not show up.

[MiamiLaw]

I'm not a big Marner fan but to think you can lose him with the kind of numbers he put up and replace that with...nothing...was never going to go well.

They’ve just been through so much emotionally over the past several years too. The pressures of Toronto are so intense. I think last year took a lot out of them. They should have beat the Panthers imo.

I was at Game 3 and that was the crossroads. The Leafs are up 2-0 in the series and I think 2-0 in the game...and the Panthers came back to win in OT on a Marchand goal. The Leafs never recovered mentally from that. I am sure the pressure doesn't help at all. When a game/series starts to turn like that, all the players - subconsciously - are hearing the Toronto media and fans simultaneously screaming.

with their goaltending the Maple Leafs weren't going to beat the Oilers, and likely wouldn't have beaten the Canes to be honest. Sometimes getting over those major hurdles drain you so much that you have nothing left for that next round like we saw with the blues in 2017.

Florida on the other hand completely owns the Canes in the postseason to the point it would be less embarrassing for the Canes to just not show up.

I've never seen a less stressful conference finals series than last year's.

[PPG]

Yep- After the Blues had those 2 exhausting series in 2016 against the defending champs Chicago in round 1 and then Dallas in round 2, they had nothing left for the San Jose series.
They had the Hawks down 3-1 and Dallas down 3-2 and couldn't eliminate either team until game 7. That's what ended up costing them in the end.

[TheJackBurton]

I'm not a big Marner fan but to think you can lose him with the kind of numbers he put up and replace that with...nothing...was never going to go well.

They’ve just been through so much emotionally over the past several years too. The pressures of Toronto are so intense. I think last year took a lot out of them. They should have beat the Panthers imo.

I was at Game 3 and that was the crossroads. The Leafs are up 2-0 in the series and I think 2-0 in the game...and the Panthers came back to win in OT on a Marchand goal. The Leafs never recovered mentally from that. I am sure the pressure doesn't help at all. When a game/series starts to turn like that, all the players - subconsciously - are hearing the Toronto media and fans simultaneously screaming.

with their goaltending the Maple Leafs weren't going to beat the Oilers, and likely wouldn't have beaten the Canes to be honest. Sometimes getting over those major hurdles drain you so much that you have nothing left for that next round like we saw with the blues in 2017.

Florida on the other hand completely owns the Canes in the postseason to the point it would be less embarrassing for the Canes to just not show up.

I've never seen a less stressful conference finals series than last year's.

Which makes no sense to me. Even during the years Detroit dominated us in the post season we still put up a fight and at least made it difficult.

How do you go 1-12 against a team in the playoffs where you are basically destroyed in every game, but dominate every other team you face in the playoffs?

[TheHighHat]

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The Canes never mentally recovered from the sweep in 23 by the Panthers.
Even though it was a sweep by Florida, the Canes outplayed them for most of the series.
Brind'Amour had to bite his tongue after the game 4 elimination.
You can tell he wanted to say that we outplayed them, but we were beat by only 2 players (Tkachuk & Bobrovsky).

Overall the Canes outshot the Panthers in that series 174-127 which averages 43.5 per vs 31.75
Those shot totals are skewed from the 4OT game one.
In the other 3 games, the Canes averaged 36.3 SOG while the Panthers mustered only 22.3 SOG

Tkachuk scored 2 OT goals and also the series winning goal in the dying seconds of game 4.
Bobrovsky was a wall in goal.

That Panthers team had Staal, Gudas, and Mahura as their bottom 3 d-men.
Zito fixed that for the 24 playoffs.

[MiamiLaw]

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The Canes never mentally recovered from the sweep in 23 by the Panthers.
Even though it was a sweep by Florida, the Canes outplayed them for most of the series.
Brind'Amour had to bite his tongue after the game 4 elimination.
You can tell he wanted to say that we outplayed them, but we were beat by only 2 players (Tkachuk & Bobrovsky).

Overall the Canes outshot the Panthers in that series 174-127 which averages 43.5 per vs 31.75
Those shot totals are skewed from the 4OT game one.
In the other 3 games, the Canes averaged 36.3 SOG while the Panthers mustered only 22.3 SOG

Tkachuk scored 2 OT goals and also the series winning goal in the dying seconds of game 4.
Bobrovsky was a wall in goal.

That Panthers team had Staal, Gudas, and Mahura as their bottom 3 d-men.
Zito fixed that for the 24 playoffs.

Yea the most Rod could say is that it wasn’t really a sweep. I see what he was saying there for sure