MLB Live talking about Donnie to Mariners

[Talkin' Baseball]

https://x.com/mlbaseball_live/status/19 ... 64206?s=46

Wake me if it ever happens.

Talk is cheap

Can Bloom make it happen

Bryce Miller was not good in 2025. Is there something that doesn't show up in his stats?

He was pitching hurt. They talked about surgery, but ended up prescribing "rest". He did pitch better after some rest. Is that the end of the story? Buyer beware.

[ScotchMIrish]

https://x.com/mlbaseball_live/status/19 ... 64206?s=46

Wake me if it ever happens.

Talk is cheap

Can Bloom make it happen

Bryce Miller was not good in 2025. Is there something that doesn't show up in his stats?

He was pitching hurt. They talked about surgery, but ended up prescribing "rest". He did pitch better after some rest. Is that the end of the story? Buyer beware.

The team expressed willingness to trade him. Not a good sign.

[rockondlouie]

I'd shot higher than B. Miller...............it's Woo or nothing!

Would you trade Woo for Donovan? 2024 Bryce Miller would be an ideal return for Donovan, and given his 2025 season it's doable. Plus 4 years of control. Yeah I want Woo, but I'd settle for Miller +.

H E L L NO!

I did float a sweetened offer though:

Donny
+
JoJo
+
Mathews or Hence

And I want NOTHING to do w/Miller, he put up an A. Pallante like 2025.

[Ronnie Dobbs]

The team expressed willingness to trade him. Not a good sign.

Have they expressed willingness to trade him?

Would it matter either way, though? Is it a bad sign for Donovan that the Cardinals have been very open about trading him?

[George McFly]

Someone earlier mentioned Jason Dominguez from the Yankees. If not one for one, adding something like Romero for example or others with Donovan might get the job done.

[Shady]

Someone earlier mentioned Jason Dominguez from the Yankees. If not one for one, adding something like Romero for example or others with Donovan might get the job done.

I'm starting to consider a pretty even swap. Donovan and Romero for Dominguez and Lagrange. Maybe request another fairly high prospect from the Yankees included. They have quite a few pitching prospects that would work.

[ScotchMIrish]

The team expressed willingness to trade him. Not a good sign.

Have they expressed willingness to trade him?

Would it matter either way, though? Is it a bad sign for Donovan that the Cardinals have been very open about trading him?

The reason for trading him is he was pitching hurt. Donovan is on the block because the Cardinals are too cheap to pay him. His numbers were good and he is healthy.

Nootbar? Yes. Arenado? Yes. Donovan? No.

[imetsatchelpaige]

Got to look to get one high level pitcher and one high level position player in a deal for Donovan. Donovan is a versatile, All Star caliber player. The Cardinals need to obtain at least one MLB ready and one on the verge. Fill the two main needs.

Define “high level.” And Donovan has averaged 3 fWAR the past two seasons, and is projected to deliver 3 fWAR in 2026—he’s a very good, very useful player, but that is not “All Star caliber” production.

Please try to get it through your head: Donovan has a fairly well-defined range of value, and the Cardinals are not going to receive a dollar in exchange for 50 cents.

Donovan is one of the top available names on the market.
Fortunately, GM's disagree--strongly--with your .50 perspective.

[NYCardsFan]

Got to look to get one high level pitcher and one high level position player in a deal for Donovan. Donovan is a versatile, All Star caliber player. The Cardinals need to obtain at least one MLB ready and one on the verge. Fill the two main needs.

Define “high level.” And Donovan has averaged 3 fWAR the past two seasons, and is projected to deliver 3 fWAR in 2026—he’s a very good, very useful player, but that is not “All Star caliber” production.

Please try to get it through your head: Donovan has a fairly well-defined range of value, and the Cardinals are not going to receive a dollar in exchange for 50 cents.

Donovan is one of the top available names on the market.
Fortunately, GM's disagree--strongly--with your .50 perspective.

The “50 cents” reference was about relative value in a trade, not his absolute value. I could have said “the Cardinals are not going to receive two dollars in exchange for one dollar” or “$64mm for $32mm” and it would have meant the same thing.

And whatever characterization you choose to apply to his “name,” the fact remains Donovan was a 3 fWAR player two years ago, a 3 fWAR player last year, and is currently projected by FG to be a 3 fWAR player in 2026. No FO in MLB is confused about his reasonable valuation range. That said, the more teams bidding in the auction, the more likely the Cardinals are to get the higher end of the range; but no, they are not going to get “a dollar for 50 cents.”

[imetsatchelpaige]

Got to look to get one high level pitcher and one high level position player in a deal for Donovan. Donovan is a versatile, All Star caliber player. The Cardinals need to obtain at least one MLB ready and one on the verge. Fill the two main needs.

Define “high level.” And Donovan has averaged 3 fWAR the past two seasons, and is projected to deliver 3 fWAR in 2026—he’s a very good, very useful player, but that is not “All Star caliber” production.

Please try to get it through your head: Donovan has a fairly well-defined range of value, and the Cardinals are not going to receive a dollar in exchange for 50 cents.

Donovan is one of the top available names on the market.
Fortunately, GM's disagree--strongly--with your .50 perspective.

The “50 cents” reference was about relative value in a trade, not his absolute value. I could have said “the Cardinals are not going to receive two dollars in exchange for one dollar” or “$64mm for $32mm” and it would have meant the same thing.

And whatever label you choose to apply to his “name,” the fact remains Donovan was a 3 fWAR player two years ago, a 3 fWAR player last year, and is currently projected by FG to be a 3 fWAR player in 2026. No FO in MLB is confused about his reasonable valuation range. That said, the more teams bidding in the auction, the more likely the Cardinals are to get the higher end of the range; but no, they are not going to get “a dollar for 50 cents.”

We will find out. See you then.

[NYCardsFan]

Got to look to get one high level pitcher and one high level position player in a deal for Donovan. Donovan is a versatile, All Star caliber player. The Cardinals need to obtain at least one MLB ready and one on the verge. Fill the two main needs.

Define “high level.” And Donovan has averaged 3 fWAR the past two seasons, and is projected to deliver 3 fWAR in 2026—he’s a very good, very useful player, but that is not “All Star caliber” production.

Please try to get it through your head: Donovan has a fairly well-defined range of value, and the Cardinals are not going to receive a dollar in exchange for 50 cents.

Donovan is one of the top available names on the market.
Fortunately, GM's disagree--strongly--with your .50 perspective.

The “50 cents” reference was about relative value in a trade, not his absolute value. I could have said “the Cardinals are not going to receive two dollars in exchange for one dollar” or “$64mm for $32mm” and it would have meant the same thing.

And whatever label you choose to apply to his “name,” the fact remains Donovan was a 3 fWAR player two years ago, a 3 fWAR player last year, and is currently projected by FG to be a 3 fWAR player in 2026. No FO in MLB is confused about his reasonable valuation range. That said, the more teams bidding in the auction, the more likely the Cardinals are to get the higher end of the range; but no, they are not going to get “a dollar for 50 cents.”

We will find out. See you then.

Since you claim that “GMs disagree—strongly—with [my] .50 perspective,” do you have any GMs in mind who are inclined to give the Cardinals 2x or 3x Donovan’s value? If so, please let Bloom know ASAP.

[TraveledLessRoad]

The team expressed willingness to trade him. Not a good sign.

Have they expressed willingness to trade him?

Would it matter either way, though? Is it a bad sign for Donovan that the Cardinals have been very open about trading him?

The reason for trading him is he was pitching hurt. Donovan is on the block because the Cardinals are too cheap to pay him. His numbers were good and he is healthy.

Nootbar? Yes. Arenado? Yes. Donovan? No.

That's just not true. They aren't too cheap to sign him. They just sent $20mil to Boston in the Sonny trade. They're just aware that extending an above average utility player that was never considered a top-prospect, while entering his mid thirties, in the midst of a team re-build, is a dumb idea when they can maximize his return. It's called the "long-game."

[ScotchMIrish]

The team expressed willingness to trade him. Not a good sign.

Have they expressed willingness to trade him?

Would it matter either way, though? Is it a bad sign for Donovan that the Cardinals have been very open about trading him?

The reason for trading him is he was pitching hurt. Donovan is on the block because the Cardinals are too cheap to pay him. His numbers were good and he is healthy.

Nootbar? Yes. Arenado? Yes. Donovan? No.

That's just not true. They aren't too cheap to sign him. They just sent $20mil to Boston in the Sonny trade. They're just aware that extending an above average utility player that was never considered a top-prospect, while entering his mid thirties, in the midst of a team re-build, is a dumb idea when they can maximize his return. It's called the "long-game."

Donovan is 28 and is top 5 bat at 2B in MLB with a gold glove or were you talking about someone else?

[TraveledLessRoad]

The team expressed willingness to trade him. Not a good sign.

Have they expressed willingness to trade him?

Would it matter either way, though? Is it a bad sign for Donovan that the Cardinals have been very open about trading him?

The reason for trading him is he was pitching hurt. Donovan is on the block because the Cardinals are too cheap to pay him. His numbers were good and he is healthy.

Nootbar? Yes. Arenado? Yes. Donovan? No.

That's just not true. They aren't too cheap to sign him. They just sent $20mil to Boston in the Sonny trade. They're just aware that extending an above average utility player that was never considered a top-prospect, while entering his mid thirties, in the midst of a team re-build, is a dumb idea when they can maximize his return. It's called the "long-game."

Donovan is 28 and is top 5 bat at 2B in MLB with a gold glove or were you talking about someone else?

I apologize...I had his age incorrect. But, that's what we should be building around? a 28 year old second baseman with no power, a career .772 OPS and pretty bad splits? I'm sorry, but if this resembles a franchise cornerstone, we're absolutely effed

[ScotchMIrish]

The team expressed willingness to trade him. Not a good sign.

Have they expressed willingness to trade him?

Would it matter either way, though? Is it a bad sign for Donovan that the Cardinals have been very open about trading him?

The reason for trading him is he was pitching hurt. Donovan is on the block because the Cardinals are too cheap to pay him. His numbers were good and he is healthy.

Nootbar? Yes. Arenado? Yes. Donovan? No.

That's just not true. They aren't too cheap to sign him. They just sent $20mil to Boston in the Sonny trade. They're just aware that extending an above average utility player that was never considered a top-prospect, while entering his mid thirties, in the midst of a team re-build, is a dumb idea when they can maximize his return. It's called the "long-game."

Donovan is 28 and is top 5 bat at 2B in MLB with a gold glove or were you talking about someone else?

I apologize...I had his age incorrect. But, that's what we should be building around? a 28 year old second baseman with no power, a career .772 OPS and pretty bad splits? I'm sorry, but if this resembles a franchise cornerstone, we're absolutely effed

Why does he have to be someone to build around? He is a piece. A very good piece who we could rely on for years to come. The proposals I've seen thus far are underwhelming.

[renostl]

The team expressed willingness to trade him. Not a good sign.

Have they expressed willingness to trade him?

Would it matter either way, though? Is it a bad sign for Donovan that the Cardinals have been very open about trading him?

The reason for trading him is he was pitching hurt. Donovan is on the block because the Cardinals are too cheap to pay him. His numbers were good and he is healthy.

Nootbar? Yes. Arenado? Yes. Donovan? No.

That's just not true. They aren't too cheap to sign him. They just sent $20mil to Boston in the Sonny trade. They're just aware that extending an above average utility player that was never considered a top-prospect, while entering his mid thirties, in the midst of a team re-build, is a dumb idea when they can maximize his return. It's called the "long-game."

Donovan is 28 and is top 5 bat at 2B in MLB with a gold glove or were you talking about someone else?

I apologize...I had his age incorrect. But, that's what we should be building around? a 28 year old second baseman with no power, a career .772 OPS and pretty bad splits? I'm sorry, but if this resembles a franchise cornerstone, we're absolutely effed

Why does he have to be someone to build around? He is a piece. A very good piece who we could rely on for years to come. The proposals I've seen thus far are underwhelming.

Solid take.
Are we sure that he doesn't want to test FA in the years to come?