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Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 10 Oct 2025 19:51 pm
by juan good eye
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 09 Oct 2025 10:23 am Good morning.

Here’s one never debated here. The bigger or better home run. Some could say Lidge was never the “sane@.” What about Kershaw?

This isn’t a franchise level question- simply between these two at bats.

Thoughts.
Pujols and it’s not even close. Unfortunately the Cards lost the series which keeps it from being more historic but homers don’t get much better, bigger, or more impressive than that blast. Adams lol.

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 11 Oct 2025 03:41 am
by AZGOLF
How about some love for Rolen's HR off Clemmons. Was that not a series clincher over Houston?

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 11 Oct 2025 04:11 am
by sikeston bulldog2
So far five homers have been dominating- Freese Ozzie Pujols Adam’s Boyer.

If not mistaken all were game winning hits. All were division series or better. No wild card.

And hit off of studs of the game.

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 11 Oct 2025 07:05 am
by sikeston bulldog2
AZGOLF wrote: 11 Oct 2025 03:41 am How about some love for Rolen's HR off Clemmons. Was that not a series clincher over Houston?
Nice find. Shot in the left field corner.

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 11 Oct 2025 07:10 am
by rezero
Why pick Pumpls HR and not Freese which IMO is the greatest HR in Cardinal history.

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 13 Oct 2025 07:23 am
by sikeston bulldog2
The board is slow. Would these five homers mentioned be the overall best in franchise history, being all were winners and I believe, all game winning RBI’s.

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 13 Oct 2025 09:41 am
by zbasspro
I was at the game Adams/Kershaw, and I still go Pujols/Lidge. It just seems much more memorable.

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 13 Oct 2025 18:12 pm
by dugoutrex
juan good eye wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:51 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 09 Oct 2025 10:23 am Good morning.

Here’s one never debated here. The bigger or better home run. Some could say Lidge was never the “sane@.” What about Kershaw?

This isn’t a franchise level question- simply between these two at bats.

Thoughts.
Pujols and it’s not even close. Unfortunately the Cards lost the series which keeps it from being more historic but homers don’t get much better, bigger, or more impressive than that blast. Adams lol.
the Pujols blast was big but the bloom was off the rose in 48 hours - Adams and it ain't close!

Pujols - lmfao

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 13 Oct 2025 18:22 pm
by Ozziesfan41
rezero wrote: 11 Oct 2025 07:10 am Why pick Pumpls HR and not Freese which IMO is the greatest HR in Cardinal history.
That wasn’t the question though. It was pujols or Adam’s home run. If freese was added into the question it wouldn’t even be a debate everyone would vote for freeze the topic offered brought a debate which I see both sides of it even though I choose Adam’s. But I’ll bet everyone would go with freese if that was the question

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 13 Oct 2025 18:38 pm
by smurf fighter
Albert and not close. When was the last time you seen a replay of Matt Adams homerun on anything other than a cardinals broadcast.

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 14 Oct 2025 08:41 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Go crazy folks. One of the five mentioned happened forty years ago today. That’s when Ozzie taught the band to play.

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 14 Oct 2025 12:48 pm
by rbirules
AZGOLF wrote: 11 Oct 2025 03:41 am How about some love for Rolen's HR off Clemens. Was that not a series clincher over Houston?
Yeah, I can't believe this one wasn't mentioned until now. It was game 7 of the 2004 NLCS.

I was not even two years old for Ozzie's "go crazy folks" walk off so I don't feel right including that on my personal list. I've kind of broken my list into tiers.

Freese, Game 6, 2011 WS - If his 9th inning triple had been a HR instead of his extra inning shot it might never be topped (unless it was a game 7), but then again we had another comeback in the 10th before this HR. That game was so nuts.

Pujols, Game 5, 2005 NLCS - Most jaw dropping HR of the list, anything but a HR and we don't take the lead, silenced a stadium (the reactions were even better than a home crowd going nuts), got us one more game at Busch II. Only drawback is we lost the series but that's out of the control of that specific HR.
Edmonds, Game 6, 2004 NLCS - elimination game "we'll see you tomorrow night"
Rolen, Game 7, 2004 NLCS - against Clemens, at home, do or die game, but not in the 9th or extras
Molina, Game 7, 2006 NLCS - shocking at the time given Yadi's hitting

Taguchi, Game 2, 2006 NLCS - see Molina above but earlier in the series
Adams, Game 4, 2014, NLDS - against Kershaw in a clincher

I can still remember exactly where I was and who I was with for the first five HRs on that list.

It's interesting how we look at various historical HRs. Some are memorable because a great player hit them (Pujols), or even very good players (Rolen, Edmonds), others are memorable because it was an unlikely hitter (Yadi and So in 2006, Ozzie in 1985). Freese and Adams are weird in that they were corner players that hit HRs but they weren't superstar, or all-star, players. Freese, though, has the home town kid angle working for him as well.

To me what happened in the rest of the series isn't as important as what the context of the moment was when the HR was hit. Bonus points for elimination game (even more for a do or die game), especially later in the playoffs (WS or NLCS vs. NLDS or wild card round), and later in the game (9th inning or extra innings where it's a potential walk off, or extends the game if on the road).

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 14 Oct 2025 13:33 pm
by sikeston bulldog2
rbirules wrote: 14 Oct 2025 12:48 pm
AZGOLF wrote: 11 Oct 2025 03:41 am How about some love for Rolen's HR off Clemens. Was that not a series clincher over Houston?
Yeah, I can't believe this one wasn't mentioned until now. It was game 7 of the 2004 NLCS.

I was not even two years old for Ozzie's "go crazy folks" walk off so I don't feel right including that on my personal list. I've kind of broken my list into tiers.

Freese, Game 6, 2011 WS - If his 9th inning triple had been a HR instead of his extra inning shot it might never be topped (unless it was a game 7), but then again we had another comeback in the 10th before this HR. That game was so nuts.

Pujols, Game 5, 2005 NLCS - Most jaw dropping HR of the list, anything but a HR and we don't take the lead, silenced a stadium (the reactions were even better than a home crowd going nuts), got us one more game at Busch II. Only drawback is we lost the series but that's out of the control of that specific HR.
Edmonds, Game 6, 2004 NLCS - elimination game "we'll see you tomorrow night"
Rolen, Game 7, 2004 NLCS - against Clemens, at home, do or die game, but not in the 9th or extras
Molina, Game 7, 2006 NLCS - shocking at the time given Yadi's hitting

Taguchi, Game 2, 2006 NLCS - see Molina above but earlier in the series
Adams, Game 4, 2014, NLDS - against Kershaw in a clincher

I can still remember exactly where I was and who I was with for the first five HRs on that list.

It's interesting how we look at various historical HRs. Some are memorable because a great player hit them (Pujols), or even very good players (Rolen, Edmonds), others are memorable because it was an unlikely hitter (Yadi and So in 2006, Ozzie in 1985). Freese and Adams are weird in that they were corner players that hit HRs but they weren't superstar, or all-star, players. Freese, though, has the home town kid angle working for him as well.

To me what happened in the rest of the series isn't as important as what the context of the moment was when the HR was hit. Bonus points for elimination game (even more for a do or die game), especially later in the playoffs (WS or NLCS vs. NLDS or wild card round), and later in the game (9th inning or extra innings where it's a potential walk off, or extends the game if on the road).
You said something that I feel as well. Once a great rest has occurred, the remainder of game/series is mere icing on the cake.

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 14 Oct 2025 13:47 pm
by Carp4Cy
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Oct 2025 11:16 am It’s Pujols and it’s really not close.

Though not as crazy as game 6 of the 2011 WS, it my first taste of the cards looking like absolute toast, then winning.

Two outs, bottom of the ninth, down by two, no one on base and facing arguably the NL’s top closer. And on the road.
Top 5 HRs for me:

1. Pujols/Lidge
2. We will see you tomorrow night!
3. Go Crazy Folks, Go Crazy!
4. McGwire's #62
5. Joe Carter's WS Walk-off (not a Cardinal, but I did see it in real-time).

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 14 Oct 2025 15:52 pm
by Lloyd Braun
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 Oct 2025 15:40 pm
If it wasn’t for Adam’s home run they not even advance to the NLCS if it wasn’t for pujols home run well they still wouldn’t advance
The 2005 and 2014 team finished with the exact same accomplishment, a division title and NLCS appearance.

A home run in game 4 of an NLDS that you are already leading by a game, is not even close to being down to your last out of the season, down two, with two on and two out, and hitting a three run homer... in a NLCS Pennant series.

Re: The Greater home run- Pujols/Lidge or Adams/Kershaw.

Posted: 14 Oct 2025 15:58 pm
by ecleme22
Carp4Cy wrote: 14 Oct 2025 13:47 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Oct 2025 11:16 am It’s Pujols and it’s really not close.

Though not as crazy as game 6 of the 2011 WS, it my first taste of the cards looking like absolute toast, then winning.

Two outs, bottom of the ninth, down by two, no one on base and facing arguably the NL’s top closer. And on the road.
Top 5 HRs for me:

1. Pujols/Lidge
2. We will see you tomorrow night!
3. Go Crazy Folks, Go Crazy!
4. McGwire's #62
5. Joe Carter's WS Walk-off (not a Cardinal, but I did see it in real-time).
My top 5:

1. Freese
2. AP and Lidge
3. Molina
4. Taguchi
5. Edmonds ‘04.