Will I see another Cardinal world series

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

At 80 years old I doubt that I will. And I doubt Mr. DeWitt will also.

You're probably right...I've seen 10 World Series but the Mo-ran legacy has made me wonder if this can be fixed quickly...a few posters continue to hope all these young players will suddenly become stars...hope is not a plan.

You make a good point- can be fixed quickly. Are we even sure it can be fixed. 50 million ideas on CT, and none of them fit.

And it makes me wonder.

I can be fixed quickly but BDW won’t spend the money. Sign 2 top OF…..they’re there there offseason and supplement Gray with another top SP
Dump NA and Contreras and the payroll is well under 100mil……..if doable trade Gray because of age and find another SP.
All this takes is some creativity, money, and willingness to do it. But the owner is in low payroll save everything he can mode.
This rebuild with youth facade takes quite a while IF they hit on most prospects….a very low probability…..and by that time any worthy talent on the current roster will have cycled off.

This scenerio isn’t good. And may be correct. By the time the youth arrive, it’s time consuming; as you stated, do they even make; and what is current, is rotted or gone by then.

[Goldfan]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

At 80 years old I doubt that I will. And I doubt Mr. DeWitt will also.

You're probably right...I've seen 10 World Series but the Mo-ran legacy has made me wonder if this can be fixed quickly...a few posters continue to hope all these young players will suddenly become stars...hope is not a plan.

You make a good point- can be fixed quickly. Are we even sure it can be fixed. 50 million ideas on CT, and none of them fit.

And it makes me wonder.

I can be fixed quickly but BDW won’t spend the money. Sign 2 top OF…..they’re there there offseason and supplement Gray with another top SP
Dump NA and Contreras and the payroll is well under 100mil……..if doable trade Gray because of age and find another SP.
All this takes is some creativity, money, and willingness to do it. But the owner is in low payroll save everything he can mode.
This rebuild with youth facade takes quite a while IF they hit on most prospects….a very low probability…..and by that time any worthy talent on the current roster will have cycled off.

This scenerio isn’t good. And may be correct. By the time the youth arrive, it’s time consuming; as you stated, do they even make; and what is current, is rotted or gone by then.

They way some posters think on CT is that Bloom will magically make all current prospects in Cards farm system be MLB worthy and his next 2 drafts will have allstars fast tracked to the ML team……. This is fantasy. When have we ever seen this before? Even during Luhnow heyday this didn’t happen

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

At 80 years old I doubt that I will. And I doubt Mr. DeWitt will also.

You're probably right...I've seen 10 World Series but the Mo-ran legacy has made me wonder if this can be fixed quickly...a few posters continue to hope all these young players will suddenly become stars...hope is not a plan.

You make a good point- can be fixed quickly. Are we even sure it can be fixed. 50 million ideas on CT, and none of them fit.

And it makes me wonder.

I can be fixed quickly but BDW won’t spend the money. Sign 2 top OF…..they’re there there offseason and supplement Gray with another top SP
Dump NA and Contreras and the payroll is well under 100mil……..if doable trade Gray because of age and find another SP.
All this takes is some creativity, money, and willingness to do it. But the owner is in low payroll save everything he can mode.
This rebuild with youth facade takes quite a while IF they hit on most prospects….a very low probability…..and by that time any worthy talent on the current roster will have cycled off.

This scenerio isn’t good. And may be correct. By the time the youth arrive, it’s time consuming; as you stated, do they even make; and what is current, is rotted or gone by then.

They way some posters think on CT is that Bloom will magically make all current prospects in Cards farm system be MLB worthy and his next 2 drafts will have allstars fast tracked to the ML team……. This is fantasy. When have we ever seen this before? Even during Luhnow heyday this didn’t happen

True. I still think a three year reset is happening this being year one. The see who can play year. Now comes some paring down. Then one addition, bat or gun.

Next year repeat. Time three years are up, 2-3 new players, maybe one prospect who developed, and the young core we currently have.

Gets us competitive.