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ecleme22 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2025 14:54 pm

An Old Friend wrote: ↑01 Oct 2025 13:59 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 20:15 pm 1. Bloom has been here two seasons. His decision to keep Oli, for now, is more informed than any of us.
2. Bloom is about to make some big moves. Maybe keeping Oli, for now, isn't a top priority. Maybe the time is not now to unleash a new manager.
3. 2025 Cards: They did almost NOTHING in the offseason and sold at the deadline.

Hot take: If the Cards made only modest moves in the offseason and stood pat at the deadline, they would at least be better than Tito's Reds....

Bloom gets a bogey year and has a lame duck manager. There’s no real good reason to replace him from Bloom’s perspective, and the types of managers they should be looking for don’t want this job in its current state.

Totally agree.

renostl wrote: ↑01 Oct 2025 16:45 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2025 14:54 pm

An Old Friend wrote: ↑01 Oct 2025 13:59 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 20:15 pm 1. Bloom has been here two seasons. His decision to keep Oli, for now, is more informed than any of us.
2. Bloom is about to make some big moves. Maybe keeping Oli, for now, isn't a top priority. Maybe the time is not now to unleash a new manager.
3. 2025 Cards: They did almost NOTHING in the offseason and sold at the deadline.

Hot take: If the Cards made only modest moves in the offseason and stood pat at the deadline, they would at least be better than Tito's Reds....

Bloom gets a bogey year and has a lame duck manager. There’s no real good reason to replace him from Bloom’s perspective, and the types of managers they should be looking for don’t want this job in its current state.

Totally agree.

Let me preface this with I also don't "love" the guy, I
don't even like the guy as a manager. Subjectively a C- guy.

You've made some decent points in his regard.

There are some on the field events that are directly under his control
and some at least partially under his job description like roster
construction. You're aware of the OD rosters as well as I.

Preparation to play. IF JW is not doing the work, why isn't he are any
other player not doing it? Ongoing base running mistakes, throwing to the wrong base,
what looks like focus lapses, etc. who exactly is responsible if not the manager to clean
that up or show some progress?

icon wrote: ↑01 Oct 2025 09:21 am

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑01 Oct 2025 08:58 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 20:15 pm 1. Bloom has been here two seasons. His decision to keep Oli, for now, is more informed than any of us.

It's probably politics and optics more than anything else. He knows we aren't going to be a championship contender next year. He probably has a plan to replace the manager and it will play out in its own good time.

But you're not going to change the culture with Marmol at the helm. He is part of the problem here, and not to get rid of him is a mistake, I think, If changing the culture is part of the goal. And if that's not part of the goal, that is a problem. It's not just a talent deficit. It's a culture deficit.

ecleme22 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2025 09:21 am

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑01 Oct 2025 08:58 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025 20:15 pm 1. Bloom has been here two seasons. His decision to keep Oli, for now, is more informed than any of us.

It's probably politics and optics more than anything else. He knows we aren't going to be a championship contender next year. He probably has a plan to replace the manager and it will play out in its own good time.

We it ain't optics. LOL.

I think CB knows he's going to make some BIG changes this offseason and probably sees Oli as a steady force in the transition.

renostl wrote: ↑01 Oct 2025 16:45 pm Let me preface this with I also don't "love" the guy, I
don't even like the guy as a manager. Subjectively a C- guy.

You've made some decent points in his regard.

There are some on the field events that are directly under his control
and some at least partially under his job description like roster
construction. You're aware of the OD rosters as well as I.

Preparation to play. IF JW is not doing the work, why isn't he are any
other player not doing it? Ongoing base running mistakes, throwing to the wrong base,
what looks like focus lapses, etc. who exactly is responsible if not the manager to clean
that up or show some progress?