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Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:06 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 11:59 am

HOUCARD wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 10:46 am Lots of Cardinal fans come from out of town. If the team is not particularly entertaining, I suspect they find other things to do. Also might be an issue with degradation of downtown. I don't know. I quit my annual visit to St. Louis years ago (when the train started service to the Galleria)

I come to visit my sister in the StL area. She always asks if I want to go to a game and my answer has been “no” for several years now. I figure Cranny can cover for me. No way I’m supporting anyone who employs an incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe.

"incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe". Tell me Rojo, have you reached the same executive level as Mo in your career?

Mo took over a team that had a great foundation and a culture of winning built by Luhnow Jocketty and Larussa. He survived off of that but the longer it got away from them and became more of the Mo show the worse the team got until its become the mess it is now. There are lot of people in the corporate world who get credit for other peoples work and coast on it for a while but they get revealed in the end and that is what happened with Mo

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:55 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:31 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:16 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:11 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:06 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 11:59 am

HOUCARD wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 10:46 am Lots of Cardinal fans come from out of town. If the team is not particularly entertaining, I suspect they find other things to do. Also might be an issue with degradation of downtown. I don't know. I quit my annual visit to St. Louis years ago (when the train started service to the Galleria)

I come to visit my sister in the StL area. She always asks if I want to go to a game and my answer has been “no” for several years now. I figure Cranny can cover for me. No way I’m supporting anyone who employs an incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe.

"incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe". Tell me Rojo, have you reached the same executive level as Mo in your career?

What could that possibly have to do with being a jerk, or a narcissist?

People who are bitter about management are generally those who are jealous.

I can make an unfavorable assessment of something without being bitter, or jealous. I'm in business. I do it everyday.

Let me ask you something, Talkin' Baseball, since I've also spent many years in business. Does negativity ever accomplish anything? Honest answer please.

My honest answer is, I don't look for negativity, or positivity. I look for what is really going on. I am the owner and the boss and there is really no one in a position to tell me I have to do something. If I don't tell myself the truth about me, my company, the competition, the marketplace- if I bury my head in the sand and am only willing to hear and say happy things- I cheat myself. The sooner, and more completely I get in touch with what is really going on and address it, the better it is for me and everyone around me. If there are negative situations around me, they need to called by their right name, addressed, and moved on from. I am not a negative person, but I don't hide from it. I deal with it. (I actually prefer positivity too)

Games are no longer part of basic package on direct tv. Asking people to pay extra for something they used to get for free.

Having the games on tv is promotion for the product. Can't watch the game - people lose interest. People lose interest attendance declines.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:06 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:55 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:31 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:16 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:11 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:06 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 11:59 am

HOUCARD wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 10:46 am Lots of Cardinal fans come from out of town. If the team is not particularly entertaining, I suspect they find other things to do. Also might be an issue with degradation of downtown. I don't know. I quit my annual visit to St. Louis years ago (when the train started service to the Galleria)

I come to visit my sister in the StL area. She always asks if I want to go to a game and my answer has been “no” for several years now. I figure Cranny can cover for me. No way I’m supporting anyone who employs an incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe.

"incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe". Tell me Rojo, have you reached the same executive level as Mo in your career?

What could that possibly have to do with being a jerk, or a narcissist?

People who are bitter about management are generally those who are jealous.

I can make an unfavorable assessment of something without being bitter, or jealous. I'm in business. I do it everyday.

Let me ask you something, Talkin' Baseball, since I've also spent many years in business. Does negativity ever accomplish anything? Honest answer please.

My honest answer is, I don't look for negativity, or positivity. I look for what is really going on. I am the owner and the boss and there is really no one in a position to tell me I have to do something. If I don't tell myself the truth about me, my company, the competition, the marketplace- if I bury my head in the sand and am only willing to hear and say happy things- I cheat myself. The sooner, and more completely I get in touch with what is really going on and address it, the better it is for me and everyone around me. If there are negative situations around me, they need to called by their right name, addressed, and moved on from. I am not a negative person, but I don't hide from it. I deal with it. (I actually prefer positivity too)

This is exactly right. It’s not about positive or negative, it’s about reality — and the Cardinals have refused to face it for almost a decade. They think they can do the same old thing over and over because it worked in the past, and they’re either unable or unwilling to face reality.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:32 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:06 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:55 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:31 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:16 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:11 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:06 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 11:59 am

HOUCARD wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 10:46 am Lots of Cardinal fans come from out of town. If the team is not particularly entertaining, I suspect they find other things to do. Also might be an issue with degradation of downtown. I don't know. I quit my annual visit to St. Louis years ago (when the train started service to the Galleria)

I come to visit my sister in the StL area. She always asks if I want to go to a game and my answer has been “no” for several years now. I figure Cranny can cover for me. No way I’m supporting anyone who employs an incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe.

"incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe". Tell me Rojo, have you reached the same executive level as Mo in your career?

What could that possibly have to do with being a jerk, or a narcissist?

People who are bitter about management are generally those who are jealous.

I can make an unfavorable assessment of something without being bitter, or jealous. I'm in business. I do it everyday.

Let me ask you something, Talkin' Baseball, since I've also spent many years in business. Does negativity ever accomplish anything? Honest answer please.

My honest answer is, I don't look for negativity, or positivity. I look for what is really going on. I am the owner and the boss and there is really no one in a position to tell me I have to do something. If I don't tell myself the truth about me, my company, the competition, the marketplace- if I bury my head in the sand and am only willing to hear and say happy things- I cheat myself. The sooner, and more completely I get in touch with what is really going on and address it, the better it is for me and everyone around me. If there are negative situations around me, they need to called by their right name, addressed, and moved on from. I am not a negative person, but I don't hide from it. I deal with it. (I actually prefer positivity too)

This is exactly right. It’s not about positive or negative, it’s about reality — and the Cardinals have refused to face it for almost a decade. They think they can do the same old thing over and over because it worked in the past, and they’re either unable or unwilling to face reality.

I am in agreement with the both of you.

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:55 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:31 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:16 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:11 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:06 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 11:59 am

HOUCARD wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 10:46 am Lots of Cardinal fans come from out of town. If the team is not particularly entertaining, I suspect they find other things to do. Also might be an issue with degradation of downtown. I don't know. I quit my annual visit to St. Louis years ago (when the train started service to the Galleria)

I come to visit my sister in the StL area. She always asks if I want to go to a game and my answer has been “no” for several years now. I figure Cranny can cover for me. No way I’m supporting anyone who employs an incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe.

"incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe". Tell me Rojo, have you reached the same executive level as Mo in your career?

What could that possibly have to do with being a jerk, or a narcissist?

People who are bitter about management are generally those who are jealous.

I can make an unfavorable assessment of something without being bitter, or jealous. I'm in business. I do it everyday.

Let me ask you something, Talkin' Baseball, since I've also spent many years in business. Does negativity ever accomplish anything? Honest answer please.

Negative feedback or sales regarding a product absolutely has an effect on the continuity of said product. That is common sense. Where can I buy Crystal Pepsi today? Do you even business?

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:52 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:44 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:06 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 11:59 am

HOUCARD wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 10:46 am Lots of Cardinal fans come from out of town. If the team is not particularly entertaining, I suspect they find other things to do. Also might be an issue with degradation of downtown. I don't know. I quit my annual visit to St. Louis years ago (when the train started service to the Galleria)

I come to visit my sister in the StL area. She always asks if I want to go to a game and my answer has been “no” for several years now. I figure Cranny can cover for me. No way I’m supporting anyone who employs an incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe.

"incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe". Tell me Rojo, have you reached the same executive level as Mo in your career?

First, that is beside the point, CraNny. Second, it’s really none of your business. What I have accomplished or not accomplished in my life is not for scrutiny by you or others on this forum and if I didn’t know you from your postings on this forum I would be shocked that you would ask such a question. Unfortunately , your question fits in with your juvenile persona and is not surprising at all. Third, you should be smart enough to realize Moe is a person in the public eye and he is fair game for criticism. Unfortunately, you are not that smart. Finally, neither I nor anyone else on this forum has to pass a test with you grading the paper before we can criticize anyone associated with the Cardinals. In short, you can kiss my donkey old codger. Start posting like you know your own age.

Thanks, Rojo. A fine, constructive post as usual. So sorry to be "juvenile" and "not smart". I yield to your greater maturity and intelligence.

If you weren’t such a self-important jerk, you would have apologized for such an intrusive question to begin with. That question was ridiculous and, most importantly, none of your business. I will say this, dipstick, I’ve likely done a lot better than you financially. That’s all you get, nosey old man.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:06 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:55 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:31 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:16 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:11 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:06 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 11:59 am

HOUCARD wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 10:46 am Lots of Cardinal fans come from out of town. If the team is not particularly entertaining, I suspect they find other things to do. Also might be an issue with degradation of downtown. I don't know. I quit my annual visit to St. Louis years ago (when the train started service to the Galleria)

I come to visit my sister in the StL area. She always asks if I want to go to a game and my answer has been “no” for several years now. I figure Cranny can cover for me. No way I’m supporting anyone who employs an incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe.

"incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe". Tell me Rojo, have you reached the same executive level as Mo in your career?

What could that possibly have to do with being a jerk, or a narcissist?

People who are bitter about management are generally those who are jealous.

I can make an unfavorable assessment of something without being bitter, or jealous. I'm in business. I do it everyday.

Let me ask you something, Talkin' Baseball, since I've also spent many years in business. Does negativity ever accomplish anything? Honest answer please.

My honest answer is, I don't look for negativity, or positivity. I look for what is really going on. I am the owner and the boss and there is really no one in a position to tell me I have to do something. If I don't tell myself the truth about me, my company, the competition, the marketplace- if I bury my head in the sand and am only willing to hear and say happy things- I cheat myself. The sooner, and more completely I get in touch with what is really going on and address it, the better it is for me and everyone around me. If there are negative situations around me, they need to called by their right name, addressed, and moved on from. I am not a negative person, but I don't hide from it. I deal with it. (I actually prefer positivity too)

So, the Cardinals need a shot in the arm, and they go out and trade for Ozuna, Goldy, and Arenado. They bring in short term experienced innings eaters to buy time until all the AAA and AA pitchers they traded for in July of that year sort themselves out. Then, you know what happens? Walker and Gorman go backwards, Goldy and Arenado have bad years, and all the pitchers they traded for (like Roby) get hurt. And the fans feel like the Cardinals "haven't done anything for the past decade" and start staying away. Which decreases revenue.

If you owned the Cardinals, there's a strong chance that you might not have done things a whole lot differently (if you wanted to stay somewhat within budget, as most businesspeople do).

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:46 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:52 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:44 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:06 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 11:59 am

HOUCARD wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 10:46 am Lots of Cardinal fans come from out of town. If the team is not particularly entertaining, I suspect they find other things to do. Also might be an issue with degradation of downtown. I don't know. I quit my annual visit to St. Louis years ago (when the train started service to the Galleria)

I come to visit my sister in the StL area. She always asks if I want to go to a game and my answer has been “no” for several years now. I figure Cranny can cover for me. No way I’m supporting anyone who employs an incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe.

"incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe". Tell me Rojo, have you reached the same executive level as Mo in your career?

First, that is beside the point, CraNny. Second, it’s really none of your business. What I have accomplished or not accomplished in my life is not for scrutiny by you or others on this forum and if I didn’t know you from your postings on this forum I would be shocked that you would ask such a question. Unfortunately , your question fits in with your juvenile persona and is not surprising at all. Third, you should be smart enough to realize Moe is a person in the public eye and he is fair game for criticism. Unfortunately, you are not that smart. Finally, neither I nor anyone else on this forum has to pass a test with you grading the paper before we can criticize anyone associated with the Cardinals. In short, you can kiss my donkey old codger. Start posting like you know your own age.

Thanks, Rojo. A fine, constructive post as usual. So sorry to be "juvenile" and "not smart". I yield to your greater maturity and intelligence.

If you weren’t such a self-important jerk, you would have apologized for such an intrusive question to begin with. That question was ridiculous and, most importantly, none of your business. I will say this, dipstick, I’ve likely done a lot better than you financially. That’s all you get, nosey old man.

"Jerk" and "Dipstick"? How sweet of you. Pure class.

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:49 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:06 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:55 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:31 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:16 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:11 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:06 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 11:59 am

HOUCARD wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 10:46 am Lots of Cardinal fans come from out of town. If the team is not particularly entertaining, I suspect they find other things to do. Also might be an issue with degradation of downtown. I don't know. I quit my annual visit to St. Louis years ago (when the train started service to the Galleria)

I come to visit my sister in the StL area. She always asks if I want to go to a game and my answer has been “no” for several years now. I figure Cranny can cover for me. No way I’m supporting anyone who employs an incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe.

"incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe". Tell me Rojo, have you reached the same executive level as Mo in your career?

What could that possibly have to do with being a jerk, or a narcissist?

People who are bitter about management are generally those who are jealous.

I can make an unfavorable assessment of something without being bitter, or jealous. I'm in business. I do it everyday.

Let me ask you something, Talkin' Baseball, since I've also spent many years in business. Does negativity ever accomplish anything? Honest answer please.

My honest answer is, I don't look for negativity, or positivity. I look for what is really going on. I am the owner and the boss and there is really no one in a position to tell me I have to do something. If I don't tell myself the truth about me, my company, the competition, the marketplace- if I bury my head in the sand and am only willing to hear and say happy things- I cheat myself. The sooner, and more completely I get in touch with what is really going on and address it, the better it is for me and everyone around me. If there are negative situations around me, they need to called by their right name, addressed, and moved on from. I am not a negative person, but I don't hide from it. I deal with it. (I actually prefer positivity too)

So, the Cardinals need a shot in the arm, and they go out and trade for Ozuna, Goldy, and Arenado. They bring in short term experienced innings eaters to buy time until all the AAA and AA pitchers they traded for in July of that year sort themselves out. Then, you know what happens? Walker and Gorman go backwards, Goldy and Arenado have bad years, and all the pitchers they traded for (like Roby) get hurt. And the fans feel like the Cardinals "haven't done anything for the past decade" and start staying away. Which decreases revenue.

If you owned the Cardinals, there's a strong chance that you might not have done things a whole lot differently (if you wanted to stay somewhat within budget, as most businesspeople do).

Most fans welcomed these moves as significant first steps. The following steps never came. And yes, they have been in steady decline for a decade. Argue if you like, but the record shows it, payroll shows it, attendance shows it, viewership shows it, and so on. There are changes taking place now that offer the hope of change. I hope it works.

If I owned the Cardinals, I would be so grateful to God that Gussie Busch favored me such that I have less than one hundred million dollars originally invested in what is now a multi-billion dollar business. I would tell my business partners we are going to reward Cardinal fans and then I would hire people who will let me know how we can do that, instead of pinching Pennies

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:49 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:06 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:55 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:31 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:16 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:11 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:06 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 11:59 am

HOUCARD wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 10:46 am Lots of Cardinal fans come from out of town. If the team is not particularly entertaining, I suspect they find other things to do. Also might be an issue with degradation of downtown. I don't know. I quit my annual visit to St. Louis years ago (when the train started service to the Galleria)

I come to visit my sister in the StL area. She always asks if I want to go to a game and my answer has been “no” for several years now. I figure Cranny can cover for me. No way I’m supporting anyone who employs an incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe.

"incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe". Tell me Rojo, have you reached the same executive level as Mo in your career?

What could that possibly have to do with being a jerk, or a narcissist?

People who are bitter about management are generally those who are jealous.

I can make an unfavorable assessment of something without being bitter, or jealous. I'm in business. I do it everyday.

Let me ask you something, Talkin' Baseball, since I've also spent many years in business. Does negativity ever accomplish anything? Honest answer please.

My honest answer is, I don't look for negativity, or positivity. I look for what is really going on. I am the owner and the boss and there is really no one in a position to tell me I have to do something. If I don't tell myself the truth about me, my company, the competition, the marketplace- if I bury my head in the sand and am only willing to hear and say happy things- I cheat myself. The sooner, and more completely I get in touch with what is really going on and address it, the better it is for me and everyone around me. If there are negative situations around me, they need to called by their right name, addressed, and moved on from. I am not a negative person, but I don't hide from it. I deal with it. (I actually prefer positivity too)

So, the Cardinals need a shot in the arm, and they go out and trade for Ozuna, Goldy, and Arenado. They bring in short term experienced innings eaters to buy time until all the AAA and AA pitchers they traded for in July of that year sort themselves out. Then, you know what happens? Walker and Gorman go backwards, Goldy and Arenado have bad years, and all the pitchers they traded for (like Roby) get hurt. And the fans feel like the Cardinals "haven't done anything for the past decade" and start staying away. Which decreases revenue.

If you owned the Cardinals, there's a strong chance that you might not have done things a whole lot differently (if you wanted to stay somewhat within budget, as most businesspeople do).

Walker and Gorman didn’t “go backwards,” they’re prospects that didn’t pan out. But as always, the Cardinals drastically overvalue what they’ve developed.

I think most posters are real fans of Cards baseball and are frustrated by the decline of the franchise we have supported for many years....and it has gotten worse with the continuation of the face of the franchise being the smug, arrogant Mo-ran.. and the maniacal arguing with every post that is critical of the front office strikes me as a desperate cry for attention...

Goldfan wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 10:03 am

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 09:56 am

45s wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 09:54 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 09:50 am “The #STLCards' attendance numbers continue to be an issue

They rank 15th in average tickets sold per home game -- selling fewer than the 21-71 Rockies”

Positive step toward change

Actually, it’s not supporting the players.

A poorly run entertainment company that charges hefty fees to its customer…..to entertain them….and he done a fine job for 20yrs and had a loyal rapid fan base….but over the last 10yrs or so the entertainment hasn’t been nearly on the level as before and its obvious that ownership hasn’t put in the effort thinking the fan base just cares about the costumes and not really the entertainment….and FINALLY the fans grow very tired of of the (bleep) poor effort to entertain them and decide not to spend the high cost to NOT be entertained…and are waiting for a real effort from ownership BEFORE returning. Very simple story

^This, plain and simple.

Maybe I am just cynical but I don't think most sports team owners "really" care about the fans. Some are driven by their egos, some by the dollars and down the list is admiration or respect for the fans. There are exceptions- I think Stillman actually cares about the team and by extension the fans and maybe the Taylors. For most the hackneyed lines about the fans are just boilerplate corporate speak blathering.

Gussie may have gotten involved where he should not have and made some poor decisions but he cared about the team, the fans, and the legacy.

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:52 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:46 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:52 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:44 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 12:06 pm

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 11:59 am

HOUCARD wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 10:46 am Lots of Cardinal fans come from out of town. If the team is not particularly entertaining, I suspect they find other things to do. Also might be an issue with degradation of downtown. I don't know. I quit my annual visit to St. Louis years ago (when the train started service to the Galleria)

I come to visit my sister in the StL area. She always asks if I want to go to a game and my answer has been “no” for several years now. I figure Cranny can cover for me. No way I’m supporting anyone who employs an incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe.

"incompetent narcissist jerk like Moe". Tell me Rojo, have you reached the same executive level as Mo in your career?

First, that is beside the point, CraNny. Second, it’s really none of your business. What I have accomplished or not accomplished in my life is not for scrutiny by you or others on this forum and if I didn’t know you from your postings on this forum I would be shocked that you would ask such a question. Unfortunately , your question fits in with your juvenile persona and is not surprising at all. Third, you should be smart enough to realize Moe is a person in the public eye and he is fair game for criticism. Unfortunately, you are not that smart. Finally, neither I nor anyone else on this forum has to pass a test with you grading the paper before we can criticize anyone associated with the Cardinals. In short, you can kiss my donkey old codger. Start posting like you know your own age.

Thanks, Rojo. A fine, constructive post as usual. So sorry to be "juvenile" and "not smart". I yield to your greater maturity and intelligence.

If you weren’t such a self-important jerk, you would have apologized for such an intrusive question to begin with. That question was ridiculous and, most importantly, none of your business. I will say this, dipstick, I’ve likely done a lot better than you financially. That’s all you get, nosey old man.

"Jerk" and "Dipstick"? How sweet of you. Pure class.

You have and do become condescending in these type debates.
Challenge the viewpoint and not the person. End it if it degrades.


Baseball is entertainment. As such people should be able to spend for it or not.

I find some reasons for not spending as a bit weak, but hey it's their money. As long as the structure remains
the same in baseball the Cards are unlikely to go on a sustained run of success again. No team has without
bailing out misses by management or player setbacks and injuries.
To think the Cardinals don't know that the team isn't at the top, that demand for the product is down, seems off.
To think FA's will every want to play before empty stadiums seems off. To think that making some statement
will change future spending is not possible to prove. It will definitely decrease revenue to spend.

If people think buying a higher-level TV package is to great, again their right, how do you expect to compete
anywhere close to bigger markets. The Aces in Reno are pricier than a Cards game now.

MO made errors more than one. When his performance dropped he should have been held accountable.
It flat out does not matter if he's 100 times better than me or that he was good for a while. He stopped
being good.