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Re: Sorry it's not on the ownership
Posted: 12 Jul 2025 13:55 pm
by shebashab
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 15:11 pm
Exactly. You can compete with a low payroll that’s total [nonsense].
Tampa is in 4th place 5 1/2 games back. With nobody coming to watch the games
Re: Sorry it's not on the ownership
Posted: 12 Jul 2025 13:59 pm
by desertrat23
shebashab wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 13:55 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 15:11 pm
Exactly. You can compete with a low payroll that’s total [nonsense].
Tampa is in 4th place 5 1/2 games back. With nobody coming to watch the games
Sounds familiar…
Re: Sorry it's not on the ownership
Posted: 12 Jul 2025 14:51 pm
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
desertrat23 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 13:59 pm
shebashab wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 13:55 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 15:11 pm
Exactly. You can compete with a low payroll that’s total [nonsense].
Tampa is in 4th place 5 1/2 games back. With nobody coming to watch the games
Sounds familiar…
They made it way too easy….
Re: Sorry it's not on the ownership
Posted: 13 Jul 2025 09:52 am
by woofy25
shebashab wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 13:54 pm
woofy25 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 12:35 pm
shebashab wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 11:02 am
I live an hour from Tampa, sadly they aren't as competitive and the are going to be relocated soon. But they played small ball the longest and best.
Where are they going?
Tampa has been threatening to play half of their games in Canada for years. The hurricane ruined to their stadium and the City will not build them a new one. They had an air conditioned stadium that was absolutely great to watch games in and yet nobody came.
The city of st Pete and Pinellas county struck a deal with the rays to fork over $650M for a new stadium, and the rays backed out after the storms. I don’t think you really understand the situation.
And the Canada thing was never a serious consideration by mlb. And while the stadium was indeed air conditioned, it is not a great place to watch anything. It was built on the cheap bc the city was told it needed to build a stadium before a franchise was awarded to St. Pete, and that’s what they did.
Re: Sorry it's not on the ownership
Posted: 13 Jul 2025 22:13 pm
by shebashab
woofy25 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 09:52 am
shebashab wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 13:54 pm
woofy25 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 12:35 pm
shebashab wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 11:02 am
I live an hour from Tampa, sadly they aren't as competitive and the are going to be relocated soon. But they played small ball the longest and best.
Where are they going?
Tampa has been threatening to play half of their games in Canada for years. The hurricane ruined to their stadium and the City will not build them a new one. They had an air conditioned stadium that was absolutely great to watch games in and yet nobody came.
The city of st Pete and Pinellas county struck a deal with the rays to fork over $650M for a new stadium, and the rays backed out after the storms. I don’t think you really understand the situation.
And the Canada thing was never a serious consideration by mlb. And while the stadium was indeed air conditioned, it is not a great place to watch anything. It was built on the cheap bc the city was told it needed to build a stadium before a franchise was awarded to St. Pete, and that’s what they did.
As a floridian I loved Tropicana. Anything to get out of the heat. I understand it all well. St Pete is fixing the roof because they are contractually obligated... after that bye bye Ray's. Ownership wants fans. Fans require stars which Tampa trades away...
Re: Sorry it's not on the ownership
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 05:29 am
by woofy25
shebashab wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 22:13 pm
woofy25 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 09:52 am
shebashab wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 13:54 pm
woofy25 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 12:35 pm
shebashab wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 11:02 am
I live an hour from Tampa, sadly they aren't as competitive and the are going to be relocated soon. But they played small ball the longest and best.
Where are they going?
Tampa has been threatening to play half of their games in Canada for years. The hurricane ruined to their stadium and the City will not build them a new one. They had an air conditioned stadium that was absolutely great to watch games in and yet nobody came.
The city of st Pete and Pinellas county struck a deal with the rays to fork over $650M for a new stadium, and the rays backed out after the storms. I don’t think you really understand the situation.
And the Canada thing was never a serious consideration by mlb. And while the stadium was indeed air conditioned, it is not a great place to watch anything. It was built on the cheap bc the city was told it needed to build a stadium before a franchise was awarded to St. Pete, and that’s what they did.
As a floridian I loved Tropicana. Anything to get out of the heat. I understand it all well. St Pete is fixing the roof because they are contractually obligated... after that bye bye Ray's. Ownership wants fans. Fans require stars which Tampa trades away...
The current owner is selling the team. Baseball doesn’t want the rays to move out of Tampa bay. At this point, they’re likely staying in the region, albeit not in st Pete in all likelihood.
Re: Sorry it's not on the ownership
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 05:58 am
by woofy25
woofy25 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 05:29 am
shebashab wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 22:13 pm
woofy25 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 09:52 am
shebashab wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 13:54 pm
woofy25 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 12:35 pm
shebashab wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 11:02 am
I live an hour from Tampa, sadly they aren't as competitive and the are going to be relocated soon. But they played small ball the longest and best.
Where are they going?
Tampa has been threatening to play half of their games in Canada for years. The hurricane ruined to their stadium and the City will not build them a new one. They had an air conditioned stadium that was absolutely great to watch games in and yet nobody came.
The city of st Pete and Pinellas county struck a deal with the rays to fork over $650M for a new stadium, and the rays backed out after the storms. I don’t think you really understand the situation.
And the Canada thing was never a serious consideration by mlb. And while the stadium was indeed air conditioned, it is not a great place to watch anything. It was built on the cheap bc the city was told it needed to build a stadium before a franchise was awarded to St. Pete, and that’s what they did.
As a floridian I loved Tropicana. Anything to get out of the heat. I understand it all well. St Pete is fixing the roof because they are contractually obligated... after that bye bye Ray's. Ownership wants fans. Fans require stars which Tampa trades away...
So, you acknowledge it’s not the city and county that is the problem?
The current owner is selling the team. Baseball doesn’t want the rays to move out of Tampa bay. At this point, they’re likely staying in the region, albeit not in st Pete in all likelihood.
Re: Sorry it's not on the ownership
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 21:52 pm
by shebashab
woofy25 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 05:58 am
woofy25 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 05:29 am
shebashab wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 22:13 pm
woofy25 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 09:52 am
shebashab wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 13:54 pm
woofy25 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 12:35 pm
shebashab wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 11:02 am
I live an hour from Tampa, sadly they aren't as competitive and the are going to be relocated soon. But they played small ball the longest and best.
Where are they going?
Tampa has been threatening to play half of their games in Canada for years. The hurricane ruined to their stadium and the City will not build them a new one. They had an air conditioned stadium that was absolutely great to watch games in and yet nobody came.
The city of st Pete and Pinellas county struck a deal with the rays to fork over $650M for a new stadium, and the rays backed out after the storms. I don’t think you really understand the situation.
And the Canada thing was never a serious consideration by mlb. And while the stadium was indeed air conditioned, it is not a great place to watch anything. It was built on the cheap bc the city was told it needed to build a stadium before a franchise was awarded to St. Pete, and that’s what they did.
As a floridian I loved Tropicana. Anything to get out of the heat. I understand it all well. St Pete is fixing the roof because they are contractually obligated... after that bye bye Ray's. Ownership wants fans. Fans require stars which Tampa trades away...
So, you acknowledge it’s not the city and county that is the problem?
The current owner is selling the team. Baseball doesn’t want the rays to move out of Tampa bay. At this point, they’re likely staying in the region, albeit not in st Pete in all likelihood.
Have you looked at attendance? Nobody goes regardless of how competitive they are. Florida and baseball just don't mix. I'll miss getting great seats when Cards come to town.
Re: Sorry it's not on the ownership
Posted: 15 Jul 2025 08:16 am
by woofy25
shebashab wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 21:52 pm
woofy25 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 05:58 am
woofy25 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 05:29 am
shebashab wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 22:13 pm
woofy25 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 09:52 am
shebashab wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025 13:54 pm
woofy25 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 12:35 pm
shebashab wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 11:02 am
I live an hour from Tampa, sadly they aren't as competitive and the are going to be relocated soon. But they played small ball the longest and best.
Where are they going?
Tampa has been threatening to play half of their games in Canada for years. The hurricane ruined to their stadium and the City will not build them a new one. They had an air conditioned stadium that was absolutely great to watch games in and yet nobody came.
The city of st Pete and Pinellas county struck a deal with the rays to fork over $650M for a new stadium, and the rays backed out after the storms. I don’t think you really understand the situation.
And the Canada thing was never a serious consideration by mlb. And while the stadium was indeed air conditioned, it is not a great place to watch anything. It was built on the cheap bc the city was told it needed to build a stadium before a franchise was awarded to St. Pete, and that’s what they did.
As a floridian I loved Tropicana. Anything to get out of the heat. I understand it all well. St Pete is fixing the roof because they are contractually obligated... after that bye bye Ray's. Ownership wants fans. Fans require stars which Tampa trades away...
So, you acknowledge it’s not the city and county that is the problem?
The current owner is selling the team. Baseball doesn’t want the rays to move out of Tampa bay. At this point, they’re likely staying in the region, albeit not in st Pete in all likelihood.
Have you looked at attendance? Nobody goes regardless of how competitive they are. Florida and baseball just don't mix. I'll miss getting great seats when Cards come to town.
The potential new owner has already said he wants a stadium in Tampa. If the deal goes through, they're likely staying in the region. MLB wants them to stay as well, partly b/c they want to expand to two more teams. Relocating the Rays makes that more difficult. You'll be able to attend Rays/Cards in the Tampa Bay region every other year for years to come.