Shane wright-- matty benier

Join the discussion about the Blues.

[Complete Blues coverage on STLtoday.com]

Moderators: STLtoday Forum Moderators, Blues Talk Moderators

skilles
Forum User
Posts: 1266
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:28 pm

Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

Post by skilles »

kimzey59 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:57 am
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:55 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:44 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
I think Beniers or Wright is a big win for us, Its the position factor. We can fill in/make it work on wing.
At least right now; all they have going for them is position factor and Draft pedigree. The production isn't really there.
Neither one is worth Kyrou in a one for one deal. Seattle has plenty of chips to make a deal work, but it can't be one for one. They'd have to add something.
I would disagree, I would not trade Dvorsky even up for Kyrou....would you?
zamadoo
Forum User
Posts: 1436
Joined: 23 May 2024 15:11 pm

Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

Post by zamadoo »

skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 13:57 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:57 am
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:55 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:44 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
I think Beniers or Wright is a big win for us, Its the position factor. We can fill in/make it work on wing.
At least right now; all they have going for them is position factor and Draft pedigree. The production isn't really there.
Neither one is worth Kyrou in a one for one deal. Seattle has plenty of chips to make a deal work, but it can't be one for one. They'd have to add something.
I would disagree, I would not trade Dvorsky even up for Kyrou....would you?
If I had two or more Dvorskys no Kyrous, maybe.
TheJackBurton
Forum User
Posts: 2146
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:43 pm

Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

Post by TheJackBurton »

zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:02 pm
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 13:57 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:57 am
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:55 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:44 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
I think Beniers or Wright is a big win for us, Its the position factor. We can fill in/make it work on wing.
At least right now; all they have going for them is position factor and Draft pedigree. The production isn't really there.
Neither one is worth Kyrou in a one for one deal. Seattle has plenty of chips to make a deal work, but it can't be one for one. They'd have to add something.
I would disagree, I would not trade Dvorsky even up for Kyrou....would you?
If I had two or more Dvorskys no Kyrous, maybe.
Yep, Seattle has the exact reverse of us. They have a surplus of center men and very few wingers. They are young but have been average so far so their trade value has taken a small hit. If you are trading a 70 point forward and Wright is the return, he isn't enough they would have to add.
zamadoo
Forum User
Posts: 1436
Joined: 23 May 2024 15:11 pm

Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

Post by zamadoo »

TheJackBurton wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:08 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:02 pm
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 13:57 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:57 am
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:55 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:44 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
I think Beniers or Wright is a big win for us, Its the position factor. We can fill in/make it work on wing.
At least right now; all they have going for them is position factor and Draft pedigree. The production isn't really there.
Neither one is worth Kyrou in a one for one deal. Seattle has plenty of chips to make a deal work, but it can't be one for one. They'd have to add something.
I would disagree, I would not trade Dvorsky even up for Kyrou....would you?
If I had two or more Dvorskys no Kyrous, maybe.
Yep, Seattle has the exact reverse of us. They have a surplus of center men and very few wingers. They are young but have been average so far so their trade value has taken a small hit. If you are trading a 70 point forward and Wright is the return, he isn't enough they would have to add.
I wouldn't be upset if it were a straight up 1 for 1 trade, but since we seem to be good trade partners I'd like to make it work out better for each side.
TheJackBurton
Forum User
Posts: 2146
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:43 pm

Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

Post by TheJackBurton »

zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:12 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:08 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:02 pm
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 13:57 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:57 am
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:55 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:44 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
I think Beniers or Wright is a big win for us, Its the position factor. We can fill in/make it work on wing.
At least right now; all they have going for them is position factor and Draft pedigree. The production isn't really there.
Neither one is worth Kyrou in a one for one deal. Seattle has plenty of chips to make a deal work, but it can't be one for one. They'd have to add something.
I would disagree, I would not trade Dvorsky even up for Kyrou....would you?
If I had two or more Dvorskys no Kyrous, maybe.
Yep, Seattle has the exact reverse of us. They have a surplus of center men and very few wingers. They are young but have been average so far so their trade value has taken a small hit. If you are trading a 70 point forward and Wright is the return, he isn't enough they would have to add.
I wouldn't be upset if it were a straight up 1 for 1 trade, but since we seem to be good trade partners I'd like to make it work out better for each side.
Would I be upset if it were 1 for 1? No probably not, but I'd definitely feel like Army could have gotten more.
zamadoo
Forum User
Posts: 1436
Joined: 23 May 2024 15:11 pm

Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

Post by zamadoo »

TheJackBurton wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:26 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:12 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:08 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:02 pm
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 13:57 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:57 am
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:55 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:44 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
I think Beniers or Wright is a big win for us, Its the position factor. We can fill in/make it work on wing.
At least right now; all they have going for them is position factor and Draft pedigree. The production isn't really there.
Neither one is worth Kyrou in a one for one deal. Seattle has plenty of chips to make a deal work, but it can't be one for one. They'd have to add something.
I would disagree, I would not trade Dvorsky even up for Kyrou....would you?
If I had two or more Dvorskys no Kyrous, maybe.
Yep, Seattle has the exact reverse of us. They have a surplus of center men and very few wingers. They are young but have been average so far so their trade value has taken a small hit. If you are trading a 70 point forward and Wright is the return, he isn't enough they would have to add.
I wouldn't be upset if it were a straight up 1 for 1 trade, but since we seem to be good trade partners I'd like to make it work out better for each side.
Would I be upset if it were 1 for 1? No probably not, but I'd definitely feel like Army could have gotten more.
Yeah, but then I question where else he's going to find a better deal than Shane Wright. Seattle has that leverage, the same as Army is leveraging where else they can find a Jordan Kyrou. Total value right now might not be even, so I agree he should be asking for more, but if Seattle won't budge I'd still rather he take the deal.
TheJackBurton
Forum User
Posts: 2146
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:43 pm

Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

Post by TheJackBurton »

zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:29 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:26 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:12 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:08 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:02 pm
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 13:57 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:57 am
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:55 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:44 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
I think Beniers or Wright is a big win for us, Its the position factor. We can fill in/make it work on wing.
At least right now; all they have going for them is position factor and Draft pedigree. The production isn't really there.
Neither one is worth Kyrou in a one for one deal. Seattle has plenty of chips to make a deal work, but it can't be one for one. They'd have to add something.
I would disagree, I would not trade Dvorsky even up for Kyrou....would you?
If I had two or more Dvorskys no Kyrous, maybe.
Yep, Seattle has the exact reverse of us. They have a surplus of center men and very few wingers. They are young but have been average so far so their trade value has taken a small hit. If you are trading a 70 point forward and Wright is the return, he isn't enough they would have to add.
I wouldn't be upset if it were a straight up 1 for 1 trade, but since we seem to be good trade partners I'd like to make it work out better for each side.
Would I be upset if it were 1 for 1? No probably not, but I'd definitely feel like Army could have gotten more.
Yeah, but then I question where else he's going to find a better deal than Shane Wright. Seattle has that leverage, the same as Army is leveraging where else they can find a Jordan Kyrou. Total value right now might not be even, so I agree he should be asking for more, but if Seattle won't budge I'd still rather he take the deal.
I agree, getting Shane Wright would be far better than nothing, but I just feel that there is a larger deal to be made here.
zamadoo
Forum User
Posts: 1436
Joined: 23 May 2024 15:11 pm

Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

Post by zamadoo »

TheJackBurton wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:32 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:29 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:26 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:12 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:08 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:02 pm
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 13:57 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:57 am
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:55 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:44 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
I think Beniers or Wright is a big win for us, Its the position factor. We can fill in/make it work on wing.
At least right now; all they have going for them is position factor and Draft pedigree. The production isn't really there.
Neither one is worth Kyrou in a one for one deal. Seattle has plenty of chips to make a deal work, but it can't be one for one. They'd have to add something.
I would disagree, I would not trade Dvorsky even up for Kyrou....would you?
If I had two or more Dvorskys no Kyrous, maybe.
Yep, Seattle has the exact reverse of us. They have a surplus of center men and very few wingers. They are young but have been average so far so their trade value has taken a small hit. If you are trading a 70 point forward and Wright is the return, he isn't enough they would have to add.
I wouldn't be upset if it were a straight up 1 for 1 trade, but since we seem to be good trade partners I'd like to make it work out better for each side.
Would I be upset if it were 1 for 1? No probably not, but I'd definitely feel like Army could have gotten more.
Yeah, but then I question where else he's going to find a better deal than Shane Wright. Seattle has that leverage, the same as Army is leveraging where else they can find a Jordan Kyrou. Total value right now might not be even, so I agree he should be asking for more, but if Seattle won't budge I'd still rather he take the deal.
I agree, getting Shane Wright would be far better than nothing, but I just feel that there is a larger deal to be made here.
I would just ask for Schwartz and maybe Dunn 8)
stljrs
Forum User
Posts: 122
Joined: 01 Feb 2018 09:17 am

Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

Post by stljrs »

skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 13:54 pm
stljrs wrote: 30 Jun 2025 13:10 pm Not sure $ work with Wright. $ would for Beniers. This is exactly the kind of hockey trade Army would make. Legit centers are valuable and tough to come by, as are 30+ goal wingers. Hate to lose Kyrou but this makes more sense than anything we could put together with Montreal, imho..
Montreal has some pretty good RD prospects
I would want a bona fide roster player. And we have a higher need for a 2C now than even a good prospect at RD. Just my thoughts.
skilles
Forum User
Posts: 1266
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:28 pm

Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

Post by skilles »

zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 14:02 pm
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 13:57 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:57 am
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:55 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:44 am
seattleblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 10:31 am I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.
Agreed. Dragicevic would be a good get, because I think we lose a 1 for 1 trade of Kyrou and Beniers. I still don’t know how I feel about even that be a win for us, but it addresses our two biggest needs, one with an NHL player and the other with a prospect who is getting close to NHL ready.
I think Beniers or Wright is a big win for us, Its the position factor. We can fill in/make it work on wing.
At least right now; all they have going for them is position factor and Draft pedigree. The production isn't really there.
Neither one is worth Kyrou in a one for one deal. Seattle has plenty of chips to make a deal work, but it can't be one for one. They'd have to add something.
I would disagree, I would not trade Dvorsky even up for Kyrou....would you?
If I had two or more Dvorskys no Kyrous, maybe.
Tough for me to want to trade my #2 or #4 overall young center for Kyrou, not really a knock on Kyrou but those are pretty valuable pieces IMO.
skilles
Forum User
Posts: 1266
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:28 pm

Re: Shane wright-- matty benier

Post by skilles »

stljrs wrote: 30 Jun 2025 15:10 pm
skilles wrote: 30 Jun 2025 13:54 pm
stljrs wrote: 30 Jun 2025 13:10 pm Not sure $ work with Wright. $ would for Beniers. This is exactly the kind of hockey trade Army would make. Legit centers are valuable and tough to come by, as are 30+ goal wingers. Hate to lose Kyrou but this makes more sense than anything we could put together with Montreal, imho..
Montreal has some pretty good RD prospects
I would want a bona fide roster player. And we have a higher need for a 2C now than even a good prospect at RD. Just my thoughts.
Yeah that is what a lot of people think but I disagree, I'm looking at the next 10 years not the next 2
Post Reply