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WLTFE wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:21 pm

Ejgonz22 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 11:47 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 08:02 am

rbirules wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 07:56 am I've been on the sign Kyle Tucker (if the Cubs don't extend him) bandwagon basically since he became a Cub. It makes a lot of sense, but I just don't see ownership going after a top FA like Tucker.

We are in an announced reset. There has to be a reason to reset. Once all assets are in place, they can buy. This should be this off season.

As for never making that big splash, well it shows. We saved all this money for a reason. My thoughts it to spend on two big names. If saving the money for any other reason, wrong move.

IF the Dewitt’s ok spending again it’ll be after the labor negotiations. I don’t see big signings this off season. Maybe a vet SP on a one year deal and a BP arm.

The biggest issue is an 80+ owner involved in any critical decisions. Old farts should get out of the way.

WLTFE wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:21 pm

Ejgonz22 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 11:47 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 08:02 am

rbirules wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 07:56 am I've been on the sign Kyle Tucker (if the Cubs don't extend him) bandwagon basically since he became a Cub. It makes a lot of sense, but I just don't see ownership going after a top FA like Tucker.

We are in an announced reset. There has to be a reason to reset. Once all assets are in place, they can buy. This should be this off season.

As for never making that big splash, well it shows. We saved all this money for a reason. My thoughts it to spend on two big names. If saving the money for any other reason, wrong move.

IF the Dewitt’s ok spending again it’ll be after the labor negotiations. I don’t see big signings this off season. Maybe a vet SP on a one year deal and a BP arm.

The biggest issue is an 80+ owner involved in any critical decisions. Old farts should get out of the way.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 19:31 pm

WLTFE wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:21 pm

Ejgonz22 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 11:47 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 08:02 am

rbirules wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 07:56 am I've been on the sign Kyle Tucker (if the Cubs don't extend him) bandwagon basically since he became a Cub. It makes a lot of sense, but I just don't see ownership going after a top FA like Tucker.

We are in an announced reset. There has to be a reason to reset. Once all assets are in place, they can buy. This should be this off season.

As for never making that big splash, well it shows. We saved all this money for a reason. My thoughts it to spend on two big names. If saving the money for any other reason, wrong move.

IF the Dewitt’s ok spending again it’ll be after the labor negotiations. I don’t see big signings this off season. Maybe a vet SP on a one year deal and a BP arm.

The biggest issue is an 80+ owner involved in any critical decisions. Old farts should get out of the way.

Yes they should. Peter Principle.

Cranny wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 22:30 pm

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 19:31 pm

WLTFE wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 17:21 pm

Ejgonz22 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 11:47 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 08:02 am

rbirules wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 07:56 am I've been on the sign Kyle Tucker (if the Cubs don't extend him) bandwagon basically since he became a Cub. It makes a lot of sense, but I just don't see ownership going after a top FA like Tucker.

We are in an announced reset. There has to be a reason to reset. Once all assets are in place, they can buy. This should be this off season.

As for never making that big splash, well it shows. We saved all this money for a reason. My thoughts it to spend on two big names. If saving the money for any other reason, wrong move.

IF the Dewitt’s ok spending again it’ll be after the labor negotiations. I don’t see big signings this off season. Maybe a vet SP on a one year deal and a BP arm.

The biggest issue is an 80+ owner involved in any critical decisions. Old farts should get out of the way.

Yes they should. Peter Principle.

Which is exactly why Bill brought in Bloom and Cerfolio.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 07:51 am Good morning.

Just a signing away.
Team would trade away Walker, Matz, Mik, and Helmsley and outfield will be Tucker Scott and Burleson.

Infield Willy Donovan Winn Nado. Pages at catcher. Gorman and Herrera at DH.

Staff

Gray
Libby
Pallante
Mcg
Young gun.

Closer- maton or granillo.

That completes year two of reset.

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 05:53 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 07:51 am Good morning.

Just a signing away.
Team would trade away Walker, Matz, Mik, and Helmsley and outfield will be Tucker Scott and Burleson.

Infield Willy Donovan Winn Nado. Pages at catcher. Gorman and Herrera at DH.

Staff

Gray
Libby
Pallante
Mcg
Young gun.

Closer- maton or granillo.

That completes year two of reset.

I always appreciate your optimism, Dog. On Tucker, I just don’t see the Dewitts spending that kind of Jack. They will tell Bloom to draft and develop the next Kyle Tucker. They want to see what he can do with a $120 million payroll.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:45 am If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:50 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:45 am If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

You're like a (Bull) dog w/a bone on getting Tucker aren't you?

IF BDWJr lost his mind and was the top bidder for Tucker and IF they also added Sandy A., then yes the Cardinals would be serious playoff contenders but still lack the talent of the Dodgers if their pitchers are all healthy.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:54 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:50 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:45 am If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

You're like a (Bull) dog w/a bone on getting Tucker aren't you?

IF BDWJr lost his mind and was the top bidder for Tucker and IF they also added Sandy A., then yes the Cardinals would be serious playoff contenders but still lack the talent of the Dodgers if their pitchers are all healthy.

Great answer. Two thoughts- it shows how close we really are, and if we made those moves, we’d be a favorite up til the NLcS.

This is exactly the conversation to have. How close and how far we could go with two adds.

We are as close as we’ve been in years to a really good team.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 09:01 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:54 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:50 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:45 am If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

You're like a (Bull) dog w/a bone on getting Tucker aren't you?

IF BDWJr lost his mind and was the top bidder for Tucker and IF they also added Sandy A., then yes the Cardinals would be serious playoff contenders but still lack the talent of the Dodgers if their pitchers are all healthy.

Great answer. Two thoughts- it shows how close we really are, and if we made those moves, we’d be a favorite up til the NLcS.

This is exactly the conversation to have. How close and how far we could go with two adds.

We are as close as we’ve been in years to a really good team.

This team is much, much better than many national media (always wrong about the Cardinals ) and even many in our fan base thought they'd be.

They have talent (strong defense, solid baseball IQ's and the intangible "heart").

With C. Bloom taking over we may finally have the right guy pulling the trigger on trades and FA signings (fingers crossed).

My fear os BDWJr won't give him the same payroll he afforded Mo ($175-180M).

If he doesn't, then he's a fool and it will hamstring what Bloom can do.

Dewitt would be a fool because he'll continue drawing under 20,000 (actual) - 25,000 (sold) and never see 3+ M again.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 09:05 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 09:01 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:54 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:50 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:45 am If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

You're like a (Bull) dog w/a bone on getting Tucker aren't you?

IF BDWJr lost his mind and was the top bidder for Tucker and IF they also added Sandy A., then yes the Cardinals would be serious playoff contenders but still lack the talent of the Dodgers if their pitchers are all healthy.

Great answer. Two thoughts- it shows how close we really are, and if we made those moves, we’d be a favorite up til the NLcS.

This is exactly the conversation to have. How close and how far we could go with two adds.

We are as close as we’ve been in years to a really good team.

This team is much, much better than many national media (always wrong about the Cardinals ) and even many in our fan base thought they'd be.

They have talent (strong defense, solid baseball IQ's and the intangible "heart").

With C. Bloom taking over we may finally have the right guy pulling the trigger on trades and FA signings (fingers crossed).

My fear os BDWJr won't give him the same payroll he afforded Mo ($175-180M).

If he doesn't, then he's a fool and it will hamstring what Bloom can do.

Dewitt would be a fool because he'll continue drawing under 20,000 (actual) - 25,000 (sold) and never see 3+ M again.

All facts. Imagine this team plus on 180m. Every Gm out there would love to sit in our seat. Ripe and ready for greatness.

As for Bill. Old people get very paranoid about life after 70 ish. They seem to want to just go with the flow. Not upset any apple carts.

Need someone younger in charge of the money. Zest for life.

Cranny wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 16:58 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 14:37 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 11:51 am

Ejgonz22 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 11:47 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 08:02 am

rbirules wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 07:56 am I've been on the sign Kyle Tucker (if the Cubs don't extend him) bandwagon basically since he became a Cub. It makes a lot of sense, but I just don't see ownership going after a top FA like Tucker.

We are in an announced reset. There has to be a reason to reset. Once all assets are in place, they can buy. This should be this off season.

As for never making that big splash, well it shows. We saved all this money for a reason. My thoughts it to spend on two big names. If saving the money for any other reason, wrong move.

IF the Dewitt’s ok spending again it’ll be after the labor negotiations. I don’t see big signings this off season. Maybe a vet SP on a one year deal and a BP arm.

Exactly. No good businessman would sign an expensive FA to a long term contract with the present MLB state of affairs.

What a Arenado, Miles, Matz, Fedde add up to not to mention the Goldy 25mil gone this year
That doesn’t buy a Tucker??

Not when you don't know what your revenues are going to be.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:45 am If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

Northsider76 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 10:20 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:45 am If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

Even if this was true (and I don't believe it is), that assumes those teams will not add at the deadline or in the free agency next season. That's likely not the case (especially with LAD), and when that happens, they will raising the bar even further.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 10:25 am

Northsider76 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 10:20 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 08:45 am If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

Even if this was true (and I don't believe it is), that assumes those teams will not add at the deadline or in the free agency next season. That's likely not the case (especially with LAD), and when that happens, they will raising the bar even further.

I can’t help that, them raising the bar. Maybe a franchise impossible to emulate. But if I added those two, end of year, would that be enough to compete with Phillie, Mets, and Cubs.

Are we there? Possible. Sure it won’t happen, but to turn this around with a reasonable team like this year, will take moves like this. Otherwise we are stuck in stereo.