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sdaltons wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:37 pm What's the word on starting this one?

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:47 pm

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:29 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:39 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:37 am Thx duce

I see the "cooler" Oli at it again.

I. Hererra:
4 HR
11 RBI
.400 .455 1.100 1.555

Sits while WillyC DH's?

Hit a solo HR, and then is responsible for 2 or 3 runs scoring.....that's -2.

I love his bat, but that trade off isn't really encouraging.

If Herrera sits, I understand why.

Eh, it was a 3-run HR. And the trade off is even more of a positive if he DHs instead of Contreras.

And at least one stolen base can be blamed on Fedde. Huge jump by Duran off first base in the first inning. No kind of throw from Herrera or Bench was going to nail him.

And this is a front office and player development problem. People need to get off Herrera's back. He plays where he's assigned to play.

I didn't realize it was his 1st year catching and he's still learning the position

As I said, it's a player development issue. There is no way Herrera should have gotten through the minors without a change in position. Pure stupidity on the organization's part.

Melville wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:05 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:47 pm

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:29 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:39 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:37 am Thx duce

I see the "cooler" Oli at it again.

I. Hererra:
4 HR
11 RBI
.400 .455 1.100 1.555

Sits while WillyC DH's?

Hit a solo HR, and then is responsible for 2 or 3 runs scoring.....that's -2.

I love his bat, but that trade off isn't really encouraging.

If Herrera sits, I understand why.

Eh, it was a 3-run HR. And the trade off is even more of a positive if he DHs instead of Contreras.

And at least one stolen base can be blamed on Fedde. Huge jump by Duran off first base in the first inning. No kind of throw from Herrera or Bench was going to nail him.

And this is a front office and player development problem. People need to get off Herrera's back. He plays where he's assigned to play.

I didn't realize it was his 1st year catching and he's still learning the position

As I said, it's a player development issue. There is no way Herrera should have gotten through the minors without a change in position. Pure stupidity on the organization's part.

I said 2 years ago he needed to move to a corner outfield role.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:08 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:39 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:37 am Thx duce

I see the "cooler" Oli at it again.

I. Hererra:
4 HR
11 RBI
.400 .455 1.100 1.555

Sits while WillyC DH's?

Hit a solo HR, and then is responsible for 2 or 3 runs scoring.....that's -2.

I love his bat, but that trade off isn't really encouraging.

If Herrera sits, I understand why.

Eh, it was a 3-run HR. And the trade off is even more of a positive if he DHs instead of Contreras.

And at least one stolen base can be blamed on Fedde. Huge jump by Duran off first base in the first inning. No kind of throw from Herrera or Bench was going to nail him.

And this is a front office and player development problem. People need to get off Herrera's back. He plays where he's assigned to play.

He can't throw anybody out. That's a fact.
He rainbows his throws.

thetank2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:07 pm

Melville wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:05 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:47 pm

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:29 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:39 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:37 am Thx duce

I see the "cooler" Oli at it again.

I. Hererra:
4 HR
11 RBI
.400 .455 1.100 1.555

Sits while WillyC DH's?

Hit a solo HR, and then is responsible for 2 or 3 runs scoring.....that's -2.

I love his bat, but that trade off isn't really encouraging.

If Herrera sits, I understand why.

Eh, it was a 3-run HR. And the trade off is even more of a positive if he DHs instead of Contreras.

And at least one stolen base can be blamed on Fedde. Huge jump by Duran off first base in the first inning. No kind of throw from Herrera or Bench was going to nail him.

And this is a front office and player development problem. People need to get off Herrera's back. He plays where he's assigned to play.

I didn't realize it was his 1st year catching and he's still learning the position

As I said, it's a player development issue. There is no way Herrera should have gotten through the minors without a change in position. Pure stupidity on the organization's part.

I said 2 years ago he needed to move to a corner outfield role.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

I doubt you stated this.

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:51 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:29 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:26 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:21 pm Catching on one knee with runners on base isn't going to help.

I don't know who the idiot was who taught him that but they shouldn't have anything to do with being on a ball diamond.

Maybe the ghost of Manny Sanguillen. At least I think he passed.

Or Tony Pena.

Yes, and I googled Manny, he is still kicking. Used to see him signing at a lot of card shows, mostly in Pittsburgh and Kansas City, some in Chicago.

JDW wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:05 pm

sdaltons wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:37 pm What's the word on starting this one?

Well, with radar many of us now pretend to be weathermen.
I'm guessing around a 7pm CDT starting time, give or take half an hour.

thetank2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:07 pm

Melville wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:05 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:47 pm

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:29 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:39 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:37 am Thx duce

I see the "cooler" Oli at it again.

I. Hererra:
4 HR
11 RBI
.400 .455 1.100 1.555

Sits while WillyC DH's?

Hit a solo HR, and then is responsible for 2 or 3 runs scoring.....that's -2.

I love his bat, but that trade off isn't really encouraging.

If Herrera sits, I understand why.

Eh, it was a 3-run HR. And the trade off is even more of a positive if he DHs instead of Contreras.

And at least one stolen base can be blamed on Fedde. Huge jump by Duran off first base in the first inning. No kind of throw from Herrera or Bench was going to nail him.

And this is a front office and player development problem. People need to get off Herrera's back. He plays where he's assigned to play.

I didn't realize it was his 1st year catching and he's still learning the position

As I said, it's a player development issue. There is no way Herrera should have gotten through the minors without a change in position. Pure stupidity on the organization's part.

I said 2 years ago he needed to move to a corner outfield role.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

I doubt you stated this.

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:51 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:29 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:26 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:21 pm Catching on one knee with runners on base isn't going to help.

I don't know who the idiot was who taught him that but they shouldn't have anything to do with being on a ball diamond.

Maybe the ghost of Manny Sanguillen. At least I think he passed.

Or Tony Pena.

Yes, and I googled Manny, he is still kicking. Used to see him signing at a lot of card shows, mostly in Pittsburgh and Kansas City, some in Chicago.

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:13 pm

JDW wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:05 pm

sdaltons wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:37 pm What's the word on starting this one?

Well, with radar many of us now pretend to be weathermen.
I'm guessing around a 7pm CDT starting time, give or take half an hour.

I dunnot. This one looks to me to have postponement written all over it. Double-header tomorrow? Else this will be one of those one-off make up games we've started to see more of in the past few seasons. July 3 looks like the best date.

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:13 pm

JDW wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:05 pm

sdaltons wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:37 pm What's the word on starting this one?

Well, with radar many of us now pretend to be weathermen.
I'm guessing around a 7pm CDT starting time, give or take half an hour.

I dunnot. This one looks to me to have postponement written all over it. Double-header tomorrow? Else this will be one of those one-off make up games we've started to see more of in the past few seasons. July 3 looks like the best date.

Melville wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:15 pm

thetank2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:07 pm

Melville wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:05 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:47 pm

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:29 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:39 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:37 am Thx duce

I see the "cooler" Oli at it again.

I. Hererra:
4 HR
11 RBI
.400 .455 1.100 1.555

Sits while WillyC DH's?

Hit a solo HR, and then is responsible for 2 or 3 runs scoring.....that's -2.

I love his bat, but that trade off isn't really encouraging.

If Herrera sits, I understand why.

Eh, it was a 3-run HR. And the trade off is even more of a positive if he DHs instead of Contreras.

And at least one stolen base can be blamed on Fedde. Huge jump by Duran off first base in the first inning. No kind of throw from Herrera or Bench was going to nail him.

And this is a front office and player development problem. People need to get off Herrera's back. He plays where he's assigned to play.

I didn't realize it was his 1st year catching and he's still learning the position

As I said, it's a player development issue. There is no way Herrera should have gotten through the minors without a change in position. Pure stupidity on the organization's part.

I said 2 years ago he needed to move to a corner outfield role.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

I doubt you stated this.

Move him or trade him.
Said it after the '23 season.
Said it after the '24 season.
Said it consistently the entire time.
Took some grief for it.
But I was - and remain - completely correct.
Anyone who knows what he is looking at when observing the game could see it.
Problem is, he is yet another result of the TOXIC CULTURE which has defined the last several years of the Super Slo Mo regime.
Many players have been anointed roles - with little to no consideration as to what is best for the team or the player.
Eephus is in that category.

Cusecards wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:33 pm

Melville wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:15 pm

thetank2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:07 pm

Melville wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:05 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:47 pm

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:29 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:39 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:37 am Thx duce

I see the "cooler" Oli at it again.

I. Hererra:
4 HR
11 RBI
.400 .455 1.100 1.555

Sits while WillyC DH's?

Hit a solo HR, and then is responsible for 2 or 3 runs scoring.....that's -2.

I love his bat, but that trade off isn't really encouraging.

If Herrera sits, I understand why.

Eh, it was a 3-run HR. And the trade off is even more of a positive if he DHs instead of Contreras.

And at least one stolen base can be blamed on Fedde. Huge jump by Duran off first base in the first inning. No kind of throw from Herrera or Bench was going to nail him.

And this is a front office and player development problem. People need to get off Herrera's back. He plays where he's assigned to play.

I didn't realize it was his 1st year catching and he's still learning the position

As I said, it's a player development issue. There is no way Herrera should have gotten through the minors without a change in position. Pure stupidity on the organization's part.

I said 2 years ago he needed to move to a corner outfield role.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

I doubt you stated this.

Move him or trade him.
Said it after the '23 season.
Said it after the '24 season.
Said it consistently the entire time.
Took some grief for it.
But I was - and remain - completely correct.
Anyone who knows what he is looking at when observing the game could see it.
Problem is, he is yet another result of the TOXIC CULTURE which has defined the last several years of the Super Slo Mo regime.
Many players have been anointed roles - with little to no consideration as to what is best for the team or the player.
Eephus is in that category.

More classic stuff!
Got my daily laughs in early.
Easy
Obvious
Correct

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:29 pm

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:13 pm

JDW wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:05 pm

sdaltons wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 15:37 pm What's the word on starting this one?

Well, with radar many of us now pretend to be weathermen.
I'm guessing around a 7pm CDT starting time, give or take half an hour.

I dunnot. This one looks to me to have postponement written all over it. Double-header tomorrow? Else this will be one of those one-off make up games we've started to see more of in the past few seasons. July 3 looks like the best date.

Tomorrow is the ESPN game. I don’t think they’ll want to attempt getting in a full game tomorrow, because it screws up the schedule if they go extras.

riff raff wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:36 pm

Cusecards wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:33 pm

Melville wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:15 pm

thetank2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:07 pm

Melville wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:05 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:47 pm

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:29 pm

icon wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 14:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:39 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:37 am Thx duce

I see the "cooler" Oli at it again.

I. Hererra:
4 HR
11 RBI
.400 .455 1.100 1.555

Sits while WillyC DH's?

Hit a solo HR, and then is responsible for 2 or 3 runs scoring.....that's -2.

I love his bat, but that trade off isn't really encouraging.

If Herrera sits, I understand why.

Eh, it was a 3-run HR. And the trade off is even more of a positive if he DHs instead of Contreras.

And at least one stolen base can be blamed on Fedde. Huge jump by Duran off first base in the first inning. No kind of throw from Herrera or Bench was going to nail him.

And this is a front office and player development problem. People need to get off Herrera's back. He plays where he's assigned to play.

I didn't realize it was his 1st year catching and he's still learning the position

As I said, it's a player development issue. There is no way Herrera should have gotten through the minors without a change in position. Pure stupidity on the organization's part.

I said 2 years ago he needed to move to a corner outfield role.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

I doubt you stated this.

Move him or trade him.
Said it after the '23 season.
Said it after the '24 season.
Said it consistently the entire time.
Took some grief for it.
But I was - and remain - completely correct.
Anyone who knows what he is looking at when observing the game could see it.
Problem is, he is yet another result of the TOXIC CULTURE which has defined the last several years of the Super Slo Mo regime.
Many players have been anointed roles - with little to no consideration as to what is best for the team or the player.
Eephus is in that category.

More classic stuff!
Got my daily laughs in early.
Easy
Obvious
Correct

Leave him alone. He was picked on in high school and he's never recovered.