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3dender wrote: 07 Mar 2025 07:56 am
MikoTython wrote: 07 Mar 2025 07:22 am
3dender wrote: 07 Mar 2025 05:02 am E8 kind of a dud in my family's opinion. I see why it was necessary to learn Cobel's backstory, and that she's definitely anti Lumon now and likely to be instrumental in whatever rebellion takes place. I just wish it hadn't come in a way that totally slammed the brakes on all the momentum building from E7.

E.g. I would have preferred they intersperse the first 2/3 of this episode over a couple of the previous episodes, say E5 and E6, then leave all the Sissy's house stuff for part of this episode while the majority would be occupied by more interesting goings on back at Lumon. Oh well.

And the episode synopsis "discoveries are made" is puzzling.
Her 'heel turn' isn't very convincing. If she put her heart & soul into enslaving people, just because she got kicked to the curb, she's now an emancipator ? There isn't even an attempt to show any actual change of heart, just an accumulation of resentment. The narrative does, however, show the origins of her emotional isolation, the manipulations of her environs. I guess, all that aside, her 'experitise' sets her up to be the uber de-severer. Her character is written sloppily, imo.
idk, I don't think they coulda done much better without taking away a lot of screentime from more interesting characters. She has always been the least interesting character for me but I don't think that's the writer's fault, it's just that everyone else has much more obvious conflict going on. Most of her heel turn has clearly occurred off screen, and this episode just lets us know that's what's happening so that it's much less jarring when she swoops in to help Mark and Devon. At least that's how I take it.

I do think this ep does well with the subtle storytelling that this series is so good at, like her looking at the ether addict as she brushes her teeth, and commenting about how run down the town looks. Clearly it's solidifying for her that her decision to rebel is the correct one. And honestly this episode even subverts the audience belief that the altar in her home was about her reverence for Lumon... now we understand that it was for her anti-Lumon mother and may have even been a sign of rebellion against Lumon. We now have no idea how long she's actually been against Lumon.

This ep is also interesting in that we learn that Reghabi was wrong about Cobel. We just don't know if it's because she was ignorant (i.e. puncturing her sort of all-knowing aura of doctor genius) or if it's because she was actively trying to keep Devon/Mark from connecting with an ally. I'm guessing it's the former but the latter would open up all sorts of interesting tangents with Reghabi secretly working for Lumon the whole time.
Also sheds some light on why Cobel was trying to get so close to Mark outside of Lumon. Based on her conversation with Sissy, it seems like she’s been anti-Lumon for quite some time, perhaps trying to take them down from the inside. Your theory about Raghabi is interesting; if she is still in bed with Lumon, unclear why reintegrating Mark would be an advantage for them. Of course, still a lot more to be revealed.

The little details are also so cool. In Sissy’s room, she had dolls of the four figures from the waffle party. Ending the episode with Fire Woman from The Cult, on point.
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3dender wrote: 07 Mar 2025 12:55 pm
George Zipp wrote: 07 Mar 2025 11:12 am Maybe it has been discussed upthread, not sure but my more oversimplified questions, given that I'm really having a difficult time figuring out what the hell is going on, center on location, cars and technology.

Where are they? From this last episode it kind of had a NE wintertime vibe to it. Maine, NH, Mass, RI, some rando spot on Long Island. Or maybe coastal Oregon or WA? The chill and the snow and the water rule out the South, FL, most of CA etc. Have these things ever been answered?

And I have never understood why they all seem to be driving 1985 Honda's and 1991 Jeep Wagoneers but all seem to have IPhone 17s.

I watch you all discuss the fine details of the show and it helps. I wish I could contribute more. But I got nothing beyond what I read in this thread and what I read online and from my 23 yr old trying to explain.
They are intentionally keeping the time and location vague... I think it's an aesthetic choice with the juxtaposition of older vehicles (and computer tech), to make it clear that this is definitely not our world. Any attempt to pinpoint time/location will be futile.

E8 was shot in Newfoundland, whereas the "Kier PE" town seems to be more in the middle of the country. There have been possible Great Lakes allusions so some people are positing Michigan upper peninsula, although imo we're just supposed to understand it to be anywhere in the middle-north of the country... like draw a four-sided shape with corners at Boise, Edmonton, Detroit and Ontario's Polar Bear Provincial Park, and it could be anywhere in that expanse. Doesn't really matter imo, this is allegorical sci-fi/fantasy.
Thanks for the comment on the computers. Yeah, at times it looks like they are playing the second generation of pong.

The rest of your answer makes sense as well. Sometimes I put way too much thought into things that don't much matter. Now if I can just figure out what the hell is going on.
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The main thing we learned in the last episode is that Corbel is, besides equivocal/inscrutable, but certainly disaffected - actually a founder of the Severance technology. Which makes the towering condescension of Helen'es comment (you over-value your contribution) fairly breath-taking - she is either ignorant, a real possibility, or its the Lumon culture to obliterate any credit outside of the family, or both.

Her observation on the 'frailness' of the community also indicated she is coming to terms with the destructive impact of Lumon in its operations.

I don't find the idea that Rahgabi is a mole very convincing, she is in fact subverting the severeds' contribution to the enterprise. But she may be also somewhat a hack, whereas Corbel would be a maestro.

We also understand better the mentorship which goes into creating the middle-managers - interns selected for their maleability/tendency to fanaticism/emotional impairment.
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I've seen a couple of interviews recently of folks on the show out in the wild if you will. I pay so little attention to the late-night talk shows, you tube, all that (bleep). I do have my twitter algorithm to the point where it feeds me info about Severance, standup comedy, hockey, the night sky and dogs. Somehow, I've gotten rid of most politics which I'm thankful for.

Anywho, earlier in the week I saw a clip of Trammell Tillman on the Colbert show. He was interesting to listen to. Most of the clip involved the pronunciation of Grakappen. It was really funny to hear his "research" methods to figure out how to pronounce. The other interesting clip that showed up was with the girl who plays Ms. Huang. She is a freshman at Northwestern and was talking about typical college experience, friends, theater at the school etc. I didn't listen to much but was amused by what I saw.

Also know that Britt Lower spent some time in STL a couple of summers back working whatever the production was at the circus performance that sets up annually by the Fox. Not making that up. Found that interesting as well.
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George Zipp wrote: 12 Mar 2025 09:57 am I've seen a couple of interviews recently of folks on the show out in the wild if you will. I pay so little attention to the late-night talk shows, you tube, all that (bleep). I do have my twitter algorithm to the point where it feeds me info about Severance, standup comedy, hockey, the night sky and dogs. Somehow, I've gotten rid of most politics which I'm thankful for.

Anywho, earlier in the week I saw a clip of Trammell Tillman on the Colbert show. He was interesting to listen to. Most of the clip involved the pronunciation of Grakappen. It was really funny to hear his "research" methods to figure out how to pronounce. The other interesting clip that showed up was with the girl who plays Ms. Huang. She is a freshman at Northwestern and was talking about typical college experience, friends, theater at the school etc. I didn't listen to much but was amused by what I saw.

Also know that Britt Lower spent some time in STL a couple of summers back working whatever the production was at the circus performance that sets up annually by the Fox. Not making that up. Found that interesting as well.
I wasn’t aware of that either, but it is pretty cool. She was interviewed in a documentary about City Museum around that time. I saw the clip on YouTube and was like, why is Helly R. talking about one of our best local attractions!?
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Great ep for E9! We don't "find out" much but a lot of stuff happens. It's a truly heartbreaking episode too, with 3 scenes in particular: Dylan/Gretchen, BurVing, and Mark/Milchick phone call.

Speaking of Milchick, how has he become arguably the best character? His short "devour feculence" monologue may just be the best and most satisfying bit of writing in the entire series. It had everyone in my family literally shouting.

A prevailing theory right now is that Cold Harbor is going to be a way for Lumon to transfer consciousness, with a prime candidate being Helena to be transferred into Gemma's body. What a trip that would be for Mark. In any case, E10 has a lot of pressure to answer at least a few of these questions. What is Cold Harbor? Do they have any hope of saving Gemma? Wth is Jame doing on the severed floor and what does he mean by his "Helly" tricked him?

My questions that I don't expect to get answered until next season are about whether this can really be the last we'll see of Irving, Dylan and Ms. Huong. I don't see how Irving can stay away, and for show satisfaction I don't see how they can keep Dylan away, but I also don't see how storywise he would ever make it back (unless Gretchen convinces his outie?). I do wish they had done more to develop Ms. Huong, it's confusing why she was so affected by Dylan's resignation.
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Episode 9 was very interesting IMO, it seemed to wrap up a lot of storylines, which means they will stick (doubtful) or they really are finishing up the overall story. It still has not been picked up for a season 3, even though you would think they are just waiting to announce it after the final drops.

It was a sad episode. I understand oDylan's reaction, I mean, what a crazy situation to be in. Milchik...fantastic character and actor. Hard to believe this is his first major role. This week's episode is going to be very interesting to see what direction(s) they go in.
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No way are they close to wrapping this ball o' mystrah up anytime soon. But seems like there is music in the cafes at night, revolution in the air. Cobel started in to dealing in slaves, and something inside of her died, she had to sell everything she owned and froze up inside. We're now waiting for the bottom to fall out - probably next season.

No way have we seen the last of Irving or Dylan, they'll get reintegrated, so their innies will live on w/ their outies. I'm out in the alley, tangled up with the Severance speculatin' blues.
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MikoTython wrote: 19 Mar 2025 21:07 pm No way are they close to wrapping this ball o' mystrah up anytime soon. But seems like there is music in the cafes at night, revolution in the air. Cobel started in to dealing in slaves, and something inside of her died, she had to sell everything she owned and froze up inside. We're now waiting for the bottom to fall out - probably next season.

No way have we seen the last of Irving or Dylan, they'll get reintegrated, so their innies will live on w/ their outies. I'm out in the alley, tangled up with the Severance speculatin' blues.
You do seem rather tangled up in blue. Your post was really clever. Top notch Danny. Top notch. Completely off topic I stumbled on a Jerry Garcia version of the song that has to be from the late 60s that was fantastic. Find it, we’ll worth it.

Ben Stiller was quoted today that it won’t be three years until S3. Great news. It will only be 2 yrs 11 mos. I kid. I think.

When I get home from the (tangled up in) Blues game tomorrow night I fully plan on spending 76 minutes asking my daughter WTF is going on with the finale of S2.
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George Zipp wrote: 19 Mar 2025 22:19 pm
MikoTython wrote: 19 Mar 2025 21:07 pm No way are they close to wrapping this ball o' mystrah up anytime soon. But seems like there is music in the cafes at night, revolution in the air. Cobel started in to dealing in slaves, and something inside of her died, she had to sell everything she owned and froze up inside. We're now waiting for the bottom to fall out - probably next season.

No way have we seen the last of Irving or Dylan, they'll get reintegrated, so their innies will live on w/ their outies. I'm out in the alley, tangled up with the Severance speculatin' blues.
You do seem rather tangled up in blue. Your post was really clever. Top notch Danny. Top notch. Completely off topic I stumbled on a Jerry Garcia version of the song that has to be from the late 60s that was fantastic. Find it, we’ll worth it.

Ben Stiller was quoted today that it won’t be three years until S3. Great news. It will only be 2 yrs 11 mos. I kid. I think.

When I get home from the (tangled up in) Blues game tomorrow night I fully plan on spending 76 minutes asking my daughter WTF is going on with the finale of S2.
LGB. I'm pumped.
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George Zipp wrote: 19 Mar 2025 22:19 pm
MikoTython wrote: 19 Mar 2025 21:07 pm No way are they close to wrapping this ball o' mystrah up anytime soon. But seems like there is music in the cafes at night, revolution in the air. Cobel started in to dealing in slaves, and something inside of her died, she had to sell everything she owned and froze up inside. We're now waiting for the bottom to fall out - probably next season.

No way have we seen the last of Irving or Dylan, they'll get reintegrated, so their innies will live on w/ their outies. I'm out in the alley, tangled up with the Severance speculatin' blues.
You do seem rather tangled up in blue. Your post was really clever. Top notch Danny. Top notch. Completely off topic I stumbled on a Jerry Garcia version of the song that has to be from the late 60s that was fantastic. Find it, we’ll worth it.

Ben Stiller was quoted today that it won’t be three years until S3. Great news. It will only be 2 yrs 11 mos. I kid. I think.

When I get home from the (tangled up in) Blues game tomorrow night I fully plan on spending 76 minutes asking my daughter WTF is going on with the finale of S2.
That song didn't exist in the late 60s, most JGB versions come from the 80s and 90s. May have played it as early as the mid 70s (which would be recognizable by Melvin Seals's super funky keys/organ).
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3dender wrote: 20 Mar 2025 06:27 am
George Zipp wrote: 19 Mar 2025 22:19 pm
MikoTython wrote: 19 Mar 2025 21:07 pm No way are they close to wrapping this ball o' mystrah up anytime soon. But seems like there is music in the cafes at night, revolution in the air. Cobel started in to dealing in slaves, and something inside of her died, she had to sell everything she owned and froze up inside. We're now waiting for the bottom to fall out - probably next season.

No way have we seen the last of Irving or Dylan, they'll get reintegrated, so their innies will live on w/ their outies. I'm out in the alley, tangled up with the Severance speculatin' blues.
You do seem rather tangled up in blue. Your post was really clever. Top notch Danny. Top notch. Completely off topic I stumbled on a Jerry Garcia version of the song that has to be from the late 60s that was fantastic. Find it, we’ll worth it.

Ben Stiller was quoted today that it won’t be three years until S3. Great news. It will only be 2 yrs 11 mos. I kid. I think.

When I get home from the (tangled up in) Blues game tomorrow night I fully plan on spending 76 minutes asking my daughter WTF is going on with the finale of S2.
That song didn't exist in the late 60s, most JGB versions come from the 80s and 90s. May have played it as early as the mid 70s (which would be recognizable by Melvin Seals's super funky keys/organ).
Thanks. My bad. Jerry sounded well. It sounded like super early Jerry so I suspect it was mid 70s. I will go look eventually.
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Yeah. Blood on the tracks came out in 74. I remember driving my 1960 Nash Metro around Davis, CA the first time time I heard that song on FM radio. Knocked my socks off.

Milkshake is going thru an interesting transformation - as noted, he used both his big & little words to tell the ogre boss to f.o. - his character arc is very interesting- we’re seeing chunks in the Lumen armor.
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I have to admit, this is the first time the show has lost me a bit. A severed marching band and drum line? That’s a job down there?

In the end, Cold Harbor was about Gemma completely forgetting the trauma of losing the baby? And are Mark and Helly just going to live on the severed floor forever? Where were they running to?
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Well, I guess I gotta wait until you experts are up and moving today to get your take.

Came home from the high, then low, then super high (two goals in 25 secs in the third) to a complete buzz kill (the goal with 2 secs left in regulation) to another great moment winning in OT. That was a sporting event that effed with your emotions. Sucks that they got the point but what a game.

Watched the whole thing. I'm speechless mostly. And still mainly lost. So much to digest and honestly I need 3dender, Tython, Frank and hopefully DJ is off his probation (wtf) to help me. I know the idea of this thread is if you are posting here you have seen the most recent episode. I'll hold off with comments. I trust you all won't be in this thread until you have watched the finale but I'll be safe.
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The S2 finale was worthy, if not as spectacular as the S1 finale and not fully a crowd-pleaser due to the very last scene.

We got some confirmation of the suspicions we have about Cold Harbor, although nothing specific enough to fully satisfy... i.e. WHY does it mean the death of Gemma? What specifically are they going to do? (My money's still on transferring consciousness somehow). And is a goat actually necessary for this in some magical way or is it just a satanic ritual these lunatics have?

Most importantly we got Gemma freed in a simultaneously extremely cathartic and extremely frustrating/painful way, all of it totally earned by the demands of the story. The very end is going to (bleep) a lot of people off but it is pretty perfect from a story perspective, and was explicitly foreshadowed in the conversation Mark had with himself at the beginning of the episode. iMark fulfills the favor that oMark asked of him, yet retains his own agency as he demanded. That convo btw was a brilliant scene on its own, something that unfolded in a totally unpredictable way but which made absolute sense from both of the characters' perspectives.

Some other great bits: obviously Drummond in the elevator (absolutely hilarious imagining what must be going through oMark's mind as he comes to); Dylan comes back and reads a kick-(donkey) letter to himself; and of course more Milchick dance moves.

Oh, and something I didn't think of but which the writer mentioned in the post-credits analysis was that the Gemma/Mark reunion was actually 4 different meetings of the characters: oMark/iGemma, oMark/oGemma, iMark/MsCasey, iMark/Gemma... ran the gamut of most possible combinations of those characters, truly great writing!

Great episode overall, great season, great series that after one more solid season will probably be in my top 5 shows of all time. And apparently Stiller has promised it won't take 3 years between seasons this time 8)
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