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CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 10:03 am

Stlcardsblues wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 09:32 am

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 08:34 am Here for the implosion.

Same. The fanbase always take the hate for the manager to an unwarranted extreme. It’s been that way since I started reading this board.

Thinking someone is not a good fit for a job isn’t hatred. When you go through a job interview and the company hires someone else it wasn’t because they hated you. They just thought someone else could do the job better.

I’ve asked a couple times….what does Oli contribute to winning games?
He gets along with players
Manages BP well.
Sounds like a bench coach

12xu wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 09:47 am

ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 08:42 am I don't understand why they would do that.

Mostly because he is cheap.

BINGO!

That plus no quality Manager would take this job knowing Dewitt isn't going to spend money for a long time.

Goldfan wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 10:07 am

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 10:03 am

Stlcardsblues wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 09:32 am

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 08:34 am Here for the implosion.

Same. The fanbase always take the hate for the manager to an unwarranted extreme. It’s been that way since I started reading this board.

Thinking someone is not a good fit for a job isn’t hatred. When you go through a job interview and the company hires someone else it wasn’t because they hated you. They just thought someone else could do the job better.

I’ve asked a couple times….what does Oli contribute to winning games?
He gets along with players
Manages BP well.
Sounds like a bench coach

Hard to say. He was given decent personnel for the bullpen, and as you stated, he managed them well,
maybe even overachieved a little. Could he do the same if given a decent rotation or lineup?

I don’t like him as manager for two main reasons. First, he comes with this high regard for developing young players and I’ve only seen overall regression.

Secondly, his embracing of losing. You can learn lessons in a loss, but it should not be the primary teaching device and should at least be frowned upon. He takes it in stride like no other.

I think many of our young players have adopted his identity and don’t see themselves as here to win a championship. Their goal is to simply be on the team, and when you don’t have to win or play under any pressure or with any consequence, it sends a bad message and creates the absolute wrong culture for a professional sports team.

Stlcardsblues wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 09:32 am

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 08:34 am Here for the implosion.

Same. The fanbase always take the hate for the manager to an unwarranted extreme. It’s been that way since I started reading this board.

They paid to fly a fire LaRussa flag over the field in spring training. Definitely rational people.

bloom loves oli

dugoutrex wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 10:31 am bloom loves oli

And that should be reason enough to give Olinthe benefit of the doubt.

alw80 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 10:34 am

dugoutrex wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 10:31 am bloom loves oli

And that should be reason enough to give Olinthe benefit of the doubt.

or realize that Mr Bloom is just mo2.0

Melville wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 08:34 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 08:23 am Will he become so great that we will look back in shame at the attempts to remove him according to CT.

I will take the under.

under 70 wins sure ... but you think they will win 82 or more

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 10:28 am

Stlcardsblues wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 09:32 am

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 08:34 am Here for the implosion.

Same. The fanbase always take the hate for the manager to an unwarranted extreme. It’s been that way since I started reading this board.

They paid to fly a fire LaRussa flag over the field in spring training. Definitely rational people.

Rational, result-based, and philosophical reasonings have been given as to why many of us aren’t Marmol fans and don’t think he deserves an extension. Not hatred or some long lost love for TLR.

But you two can keep ignoring us and fluffing each other if it makes you feel better.

ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 08:42 am I don't understand why they would do that. Did they think some other team would hire him away? Did they think this will excite the fans who stopped attending games?

I've been trying to tell people- they like Oli.

Well at least we'll only have to watch him this season. 2027 they'll lock his (donkey) out with the players

Because a lockout of some length is almost guaranteed for 2027 and the organization is in a total rebuild, this doesn't bother me as much as it did 2 years ago.

I really like Oli as a person and a guy. My detest is based purely upon performance and decision-making. But if the team is trying to cut cost uncertainty wherever they can until it's certain they're on the upswing and out of rebuilding, I guess Oli's as good a manager as any other cheap nobody.

blackinkbiz wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 11:02 am Because a lockout of some length is almost guaranteed for 2027 and the organization is in a total rebuild, this doesn't bother me as much as it did 2 years ago.

I really like Oli as a person and a guy. My detest is based purely upon performance and decision-making. But if the team is trying to cut cost uncertainty wherever they can until it's certain they're on the upswing and out of rebuilding, I guess Oli's as good a manager as any other cheap nobody.

Still missing it. They aren't stuck with Oli. They aren't settling for Oli. They aren't making do with Oli. They LIKE Oli.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 11:04 am

blackinkbiz wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 11:02 am Because a lockout of some length is almost guaranteed for 2027 and the organization is in a total rebuild, this doesn't bother me as much as it did 2 years ago.

I really like Oli as a person and a guy. My detest is based purely upon performance and decision-making. But if the team is trying to cut cost uncertainty wherever they can until it's certain they're on the upswing and out of rebuilding, I guess Oli's as good a manager as any other cheap nobody.

Still missing it. They aren't stuck with Oli. They aren't settling for Oli. They aren't making do with Oli. They LIKE Oli.

Yep, he's Blooms guy. I've been saying it all along.
I'm enjoying all the spin though. Too funny.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 11:04 am

blackinkbiz wrote: ↑01 Mar 2026 11:02 am Because a lockout of some length is almost guaranteed for 2027 and the organization is in a total rebuild, this doesn't bother me as much as it did 2 years ago.

I really like Oli as a person and a guy. My detest is based purely upon performance and decision-making. But if the team is trying to cut cost uncertainty wherever they can until it's certain they're on the upswing and out of rebuilding, I guess Oli's as good a manager as any other cheap nobody.

Still missing it. They aren't stuck with Oli. They aren't settling for Oli. They aren't making do with Oli. They LIKE Oli.

They liked Mozeliak too. Their taste sucks

Marmol is represented by Roc Nation agency , the same outfit that represents Albert Pujols and current Cardinal SS Masyn Winn.