What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?

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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?

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They have a future all star....on another team.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?

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Melville wrote: 26 Jan 2026 20:29 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Jan 2026 20:25 pm His power numbers in milb are intriguing.
True....though his extremely low 22 XBH's in 347 MLB PA's is concerning.
He will need to show a lot more than that in 2026.
He is young. Could improve.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?

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MVP of the league.
For me that merits some runway

If Donovan gets traded you move Wetherholt to third and hope Saggese turns in to Donovan 2.0 at second.
Gorman should DH
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?

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ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Jan 2026 21:09 pm
Melville wrote: 26 Jan 2026 20:29 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Jan 2026 20:25 pm His power numbers in milb are intriguing.
True....though his extremely low 22 XBH's in 347 MLB PA's is concerning.
He will need to show a lot more than that in 2026.
He is young. Could improve.
He could.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?

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DwaininAztec wrote: 26 Jan 2026 18:52 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 26 Jan 2026 14:20 pm Another AAAA player. A JAG. May play a few games for a few years but not a needle mover.

Every franchise has players who have had a great year in the minors, but can’t put it together in the Majors.
Carp, I don't think you are looking at his track record. He would seem to have the kind of talent that can make a solid career. No, he won't be a "superstar," but he can have a productive role on just about any team.
with what manager and hitting coach? In both 2024 and 2025 he's gone backwards from his highwatermark at AA. If he figures this out on his own with no decent MLB talent development and coaches in place, it will be a surprise.
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J.A.G.
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Cranny wrote: 26 Jan 2026 14:56 pm
CNYFan wrote: 26 Jan 2026 14:43 pm Utility player this year.

Good RH bat on occasion
So you said “meh” to Matt Carpenter?
Oh Please cranny get real

He's NOT even close to being MCarp :roll: ::crazya::
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Still to be determined.
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rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jan 2026 08:51 am
Cranny wrote: 26 Jan 2026 14:56 pm
CNYFan wrote: 26 Jan 2026 14:43 pm Utility player this year.

Good RH bat on occasion
So you said “meh” to Matt Carpenter?
Oh Please cranny get real

He's NOT even close to being MCarp :roll: ::crazya::
Didn’t say he was. The meh for both of them was interesting.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?

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Baseball Savant metrics:

POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%

Only near great - LA sweet spot %

MEH - arm strength
Average Range

Good speed
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?

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rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:

POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%

Only near great - LA sweet spot %

MEH - arm strength
Average Range

Good speed
Could be an excellent utility player for the Birds.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?

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Cranny wrote: 27 Jan 2026 09:00 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:

POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%

Only near great - LA sweet spot %

MEH - arm strength
Average Range

Good speed
Could be an excellent utility player for the Birds.
No. To be the 26 man you need to bunt, run, play superior late defense. His poor ratings greatly out weigh the benefits.

The 26 man is a master of jack of all trades. Vic Davillio. Matty Alou.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?

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Cranny wrote: 27 Jan 2026 09:00 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:

POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%

Only near great - LA sweet spot %

MEH - arm strength
Average Range

Good speed
Could be an excellent utility player for the Birds.
:roll:

"excellent"

I'm not rooting against the kid, I never pull against any Cardinal (okay maybe A. Pallante in the SR :lol: ) but I know what I've seen and to me he's J.A.G.

But I hope you TS fans are right and he does end up being a useful SUP, but not holding my breathe unless those metrics I listed really take a big jump this season.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 27 Jan 2026 09:04 am
Cranny wrote: 27 Jan 2026 09:00 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:

POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%

Only near great - LA sweet spot %

MEH - arm strength
Average Range

Good speed
Could be an excellent utility player for the Birds.
No. To be the 26 man you need to bunt, run, play superior late defense. His poor ratings greatly out weigh the benefits.

The 26 man is a master of jack of all trades. Vic Davillio. Matty Alou.
Never say never. Predicting the future with assuredness only leaves you exposed to possible future ridicule.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?

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Cranny wrote: 27 Jan 2026 09:08 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 27 Jan 2026 09:04 am
Cranny wrote: 27 Jan 2026 09:00 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:

POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%

Only near great - LA sweet spot %

MEH - arm strength
Average Range

Good speed
Could be an excellent utility player for the Birds.
No. To be the 26 man you need to bunt, run, play superior late defense. His poor ratings greatly out weigh the benefits.

The 26 man is a master of jack of all trades. Vic Davillio. Matty Alou.
Never say never. Predicting the future with assuredness only leaves you exposed to possible future ridicule.
I didn’t predict anything. I stated what it took to be my 26 man, and correlated his stats previously posted. Then I described the position with former examples.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?

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rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:

POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%

Only near great - LA sweet spot %

MEH - arm strength
Average Range

Good speed
+1...using logic will get you nowhere...you have to believe and hope that all Cardinals prospects will be stars!... and then (buzz) at anyone who disagrees...