What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
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clemonsonroots
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
They have a future all star....on another team.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
MVP of the league.
For me that merits some runway
If Donovan gets traded you move Wetherholt to third and hope Saggese turns in to Donovan 2.0 at second.
Gorman should DH
For me that merits some runway
If Donovan gets traded you move Wetherholt to third and hope Saggese turns in to Donovan 2.0 at second.
Gorman should DH
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
He could.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑26 Jan 2026 21:09 pmHe is young. Could improve.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
with what manager and hitting coach? In both 2024 and 2025 he's gone backwards from his highwatermark at AA. If he figures this out on his own with no decent MLB talent development and coaches in place, it will be a surprise.DwaininAztec wrote: ↑26 Jan 2026 18:52 pmCarp, I don't think you are looking at his track record. He would seem to have the kind of talent that can make a solid career. No, he won't be a "superstar," but he can have a productive role on just about any team.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
Still to be determined.
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Cranny
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Didn’t say he was. The meh for both of them was interesting.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed
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Cranny
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
Could be an excellent utility player for the Birds.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed
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sikeston bulldog2
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
No. To be the 26 man you need to bunt, run, play superior late defense. His poor ratings greatly out weigh the benefits.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:00 amCould be an excellent utility player for the Birds.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed
The 26 man is a master of jack of all trades. Vic Davillio. Matty Alou.
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rockondlouie
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:00 amCould be an excellent utility player for the Birds.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed
"excellent"
I'm not rooting against the kid, I never pull against any Cardinal (okay maybe A. Pallante in the SR
But I hope you TS fans are right and he does end up being a useful SUP, but not holding my breathe unless those metrics I listed really take a big jump this season.
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Cranny
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
Never say never. Predicting the future with assuredness only leaves you exposed to possible future ridicule.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:04 amNo. To be the 26 man you need to bunt, run, play superior late defense. His poor ratings greatly out weigh the benefits.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:00 amCould be an excellent utility player for the Birds.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed
The 26 man is a master of jack of all trades. Vic Davillio. Matty Alou.
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sikeston bulldog2
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
I didn’t predict anything. I stated what it took to be my 26 man, and correlated his stats previously posted. Then I described the position with former examples.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:08 amNever say never. Predicting the future with assuredness only leaves you exposed to possible future ridicule.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:04 amNo. To be the 26 man you need to bunt, run, play superior late defense. His poor ratings greatly out weigh the benefits.Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 09:00 amCould be an excellent utility player for the Birds.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed
The 26 man is a master of jack of all trades. Vic Davillio. Matty Alou.
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Re: What do the Cardinals have in Thomas Saggese?
+1...using logic will get you nowhere...you have to believe and hope that all Cardinals prospects will be stars!... and then (buzz) at anyone who disagrees...rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026 08:56 am Baseball Savant metrics:
POOR
-barrel%
-bat speed
-square up%
-chase rate
-whiff%
-BB%
Only near great - LA sweet spot %
MEH - arm strength
Average Range
Good speed