Picks Three and Four

[TAFKAP]

If they fall out of the Top 2, should they make a move to swap picks and move up? Should they put their chips on Ivar/McKennan?

No..as long as they are top 5 we will be good. The cost to move up to get McKenna will be high.

+1

I’m just curious how this front office would operate if they thought one of these guys was “their” guy. Would they go after it?

You’re right, McKenna should be high. Assuming the NHL doesn’t pull off some mystical Big Market ascension that has a way of manifesting with the Draft Lottery, the current expectation is Vancouver would Draft First. I assume they’d take Gavin given his heritage, legacy, & proximity (2-1/2 Hr flight).

However, given their connection to the past w/the Sedins, and many experts believing Stenberg could be the consensus #1 Overall Pick, that might not be such a given.

I just wonder if the Blues would bite at the potential of landing a Generational Talent if they were on the doorstep. Probably not… but what if it was Stenberg w/a Stenberg already in house?

You have to find a willing dance partner. The Blues offered the Hawks all 3 of their 1sts to swap to draft Kane. As you can tell, Chicago declined.

[BleedingBleu]

If they fall out of the Top 2, should they make a move to swap picks and move up? Should they put their chips on Ivar/McKennan?

No..as long as they are top 5 we will be good. The cost to move up to get McKenna will be high.

+1

I’m just curious how this front office would operate if they thought one of these guys was “their” guy. Would they go after it?

You’re right, McKenna should be high. Assuming the NHL doesn’t pull off some mystical Big Market ascension that has a way of manifesting with the Draft Lottery, the current expectation is Vancouver would Draft First. I assume they’d take Gavin given his heritage, legacy, & proximity (2-1/2 Hr flight).

However, given their connection to the past w/the Sedins, and many experts believing Stenberg could be the consensus #1 Overall Pick, that might not be such a given.

I just wonder if the Blues would bite at the potential of landing a Generational Talent if they were on the doorstep. Probably not… but what if it was Stenberg w/a Stenberg already in house?

You have to find a willing dance partner. The Blues offered the Hawks all 3 of their 1sts to swap to draft Kane. As you can tell, Chicago declined.

I’d never heard that story. Also, I could see why a Divisional Rival wouldn’t want to trade a player they were likely familiar with.

[zuck698]

Here is the story about that draft and offering the 3 picks.

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/profess ... 3a4e7.html

[juan good eye]

I don’t see Barkov at all, I’ve seen the Keller and Lucas Raymond comparisons. Some people say Markus Naslund.

I agree, no resemblance to Barkov.

As for trading down, which teams have multiple top-15 picks and more? Or could it be part of a bigger trade? Maybe just moving down one or two spots and picking up a nice 2nd rounder? I could see that, and my preliminary notion is that anything top-10 is a good get. I suppose I'll research some more, but with Carels moving up, there are a lot of good dmen this draft.

Vancouver has Florida's 1st.
Calgary has Vegas' 1st.
The Rag's have Dallas' 1st.

I am absolutely, 100% AGAINST trading down(even a spot or 2). We need to come out of this Draft with Stenberg or McKenna.

I generally agree, and if we get say 3rd or below, I'd rather trade up. However, I'm fine taking another great prospect with whatever pick we have. It would be lovely if we drew the 1st OA, but I foresee more like finishing 3rd and dropping to pick 9th or something...

We need 2 OA (Stenberg or McKenna) and win lottery next year for a 1C.

Ideally trade some vets for more first round picks.

[juan good eye]

1. Lawrence
2. Carels
3. Belchetz
4.Verhoeff

I have Verhoeff 3 and Lawrence around 5.

[juan good eye]

How could we get shane wright, Jason robertson, and a high draft pick while keeping Thomas. That would really revamp things in a hurry.

Reset vs rebuild.

Wright is supposedly available. Not cheap and risky. Like his age.

Robertson is absolute stud and signals win now mode and keeping Thomas. Heard he disappears some in playoffs so idk if he’s worth it and he will be expensive AF. Doubt he comes available since Dallas is going all in on a Cup.

Being division rivals probably nixes any deal with Blues although I can envision a 1-1 hockey trade this summer Kyrou for JR (RFA). JK aav is close to JR current salary which would help Dallas as they are near the cap limit and JK is a known quantity with term vs futures that other teams would offer. This could be retribution for Hull.

[Bluesfan1978]

When scouting a player how much stock do you put into a players birthdate? For example Lawrence is 11 months younger than Stenberg.

[seattleblue]

When scouting a player how much stock do you put into a players birthdate? For example Lawrence is 11 months younger than Stenberg.

with a gap like that, plenty.

our big mean fast LHD Lukas Fischer would have been a first rounder last year but he missed the cut by days

[Pierre McGuire]

When scouting a player how much stock do you put into a players birthdate? For example Lawrence is 11 months younger than Stenberg.

It’s huge…but not enough to select Lawrence over Stenberg though.

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

This draft has an eerily same type of vibe as the 2006 draft. For a long while the recognized number one pick was Fat Phil and then it steadily shifted to EJ. Similarly , there seems to be squishy consensus this year. On top of that, from what I am reading there seems to be a question of quality downwind. Leave it to the Blues to suck in an iffy draft year. If we end up drafting outside of the top 2, I would think carels just by virtue of need who I like but he is not someone who is going to come in right away and wow. And for the record I was really bummed we didn't draft Phil . Love that guy. 1000 games on hotdogs and soda. The antithesis of captain serious.

[TAFKAP]

This draft has an eerily same type of vibe as the 2006 draft. For a long while the recognized number one pick was Fat Phil and then it steadily shifted to EJ. Similarly , there seems to be squishy consensus this year. On top of that, from what I am reading there seems to be a question of quality downwind. Leave it to the Blues to suck in an iffy draft year. If we end up drafting outside of the top 2, I would think carels just by virtue of need who I like but he is not someone who is going to come in right away and wow. And for the record I was really bummed we didn't draft Phil . Love that guy. 1000 games on hotdogs and soda. The antithesis of captain serious.

If that's true, then the Blues should have learned a lesson in that draft. Draft offense.

Staal
Toews
Backstrom
Kessel
Giroux