Kyrou can’t be happy

[netboy65]

Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

[Bacchk29]

Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

He’s considered a skill player. With the cap increase as long as he’s scoring 60-65 pts a year, 8 mil is priced right. I get a kick out of some here that say some shouldn’t get paid more for offensive production. There’s a reason bottom 6 guys get paid 3 mil a year or less. They can’t produce offensively. Same with D men. Offense is more valuable because fewer guys can do it.

[theograce]

Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

He’s considered a skill player. With the cap increase as long as he’s scoring 60-65 pts a year, 8 mil is priced right. I get a kick out of some here that say some shouldn’t get paid more for offensive production. There’s a reason bottom 6 guys get paid 3 mil a year or less. They can’t produce offensively. Same with D men. Offense is more valuable because fewer guys can do it.

You can and will have bad contracts in the new era too. It’s a bad contract now. It will be “then” too. There’s guys better than him, similar age making less long term.

[Jeff Goldblum]

Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

Apparently they are. Just like they are giving out $8 million to Kyrou to do absolutely nothing.

[netboy65]

Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

Apparently they are. Just like they are giving out $8 million to Kyrou to do absolutely nothing.

Ok sparky. Whatever you say.

[ManitobaBlues]

Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

Apparently they are. Just like they are giving out $8 million to Kyrou to do absolutely nothing.

Ok sparky. Whatever you say.

Wow, you get pretty fired up when it comes to your boy Kyrou. But let’s be honest — at eight mil a year, he’s not exactly earning it right now, eh.

[TheJackBurton]

Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

Apparently they are. Just like they are giving out $8 million to Kyrou to do absolutely nothing.

He didn't just sign that contract this off season. Up until this season he's essentially been a .9 ppg player with multiple seasons of 30 plus goals.

You can' absolutely say he's disappointing this year, but he was paid appropriately for what he was producing.

[Jeff Goldblum]

Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

Apparently they are. Just like they are giving out $8 million to Kyrou to do absolutely nothing.

He didn't just sign that contract this off season. Up until this season he's essentially been a .9 ppg player with multiple seasons of 30 plus goals.

You can' absolutely say he's disappointing this year, but he was paid appropriately for what he was producing.

Personally, I didn't like him before he signed the contract. Even back then he would have a good game and then take the next game off. At least back then he would have good games.

[blues2112]

Saved goal on great back check yesterday.

This forum can't be happy.

[TheJackBurton]

Also there's Buch, who must have dirt on Monty. It's the only explanation.

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

Apparently they are. Just like they are giving out $8 million to Kyrou to do absolutely nothing.

He didn't just sign that contract this off season. Up until this season he's essentially been a .9 ppg player with multiple seasons of 30 plus goals.

You can' absolutely say he's disappointing this year, but he was paid appropriately for what he was producing.

Personally, I didn't like him before he signed the contract. Even back then he would have a good game and then take the next game off. At least back then he would have good games.

So he was coming off a 27-48-75 season in 74 games, so over a point per game, was young, had shown point improvements over every season, has blazing fast speed, but you wouldn't have extended him?

There isn't a GM in the history of the NHL who wouldn't have extended him. I mean let's be serious here.

[The Average Gatsby]

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

Apparently they are. Just like they are giving out $8 million to Kyrou to do absolutely nothing.

He didn't just sign that contract this off season. Up until this season he's essentially been a .9 ppg player with multiple seasons of 30 plus goals.

You can' absolutely say he's disappointing this year, but he was paid appropriately for what he was producing.

Personally, I didn't like him before he signed the contract. Even back then he would have a good game and then take the next game off. At least back then he would have good games.

So he was coming off a 27-48-75 season in 74 games, so over a point per game, was young, had shown point improvements over every season, has blazing fast speed, but you wouldn't have extended him?

There isn't a GM in the history of the NHL who wouldn't have extended him. I mean let's be serious here.

This and I’ll also add that he’s been a very consistent offensive producer and a much better 2 way player since he signed that contract. This is the first year where he’s been bad. But pretty much every forward has been bad this year so whatever’s going on doesn’t seem to be related to Kyrou specifically.

[Jeff Goldblum]

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

Apparently they are. Just like they are giving out $8 million to Kyrou to do absolutely nothing.

He didn't just sign that contract this off season. Up until this season he's essentially been a .9 ppg player with multiple seasons of 30 plus goals.

You can' absolutely say he's disappointing this year, but he was paid appropriately for what he was producing.

Personally, I didn't like him before he signed the contract. Even back then he would have a good game and then take the next game off. At least back then he would have good games.

So he was coming off a 27-48-75 season in 74 games, so over a point per game, was young, had shown point improvements over every season, has blazing fast speed, but you wouldn't have extended him?

There isn't a GM in the history of the NHL who wouldn't have extended him. I mean let's be serious here.

Not for $8m. I got back to the playoffs series against Minnesota where he scored a couple of goals and took over a game. Next game he was nonexistent. Like no effort nonexistent.

[TheJackBurton]

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

Apparently they are. Just like they are giving out $8 million to Kyrou to do absolutely nothing.

He didn't just sign that contract this off season. Up until this season he's essentially been a .9 ppg player with multiple seasons of 30 plus goals.

You can' absolutely say he's disappointing this year, but he was paid appropriately for what he was producing.

Personally, I didn't like him before he signed the contract. Even back then he would have a good game and then take the next game off. At least back then he would have good games.

So he was coming off a 27-48-75 season in 74 games, so over a point per game, was young, had shown point improvements over every season, has blazing fast speed, but you wouldn't have extended him?

There isn't a GM in the history of the NHL who wouldn't have extended him. I mean let's be serious here.

Not for $8m. I got back to the playoffs series against Minnesota where he scored a couple of goals and took over a game. Next game he was nonexistent. Like no effort nonexistent.

well that was the going amount for a point per game player that you were buying out UFA years.

[TheJackBurton]

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

Apparently they are. Just like they are giving out $8 million to Kyrou to do absolutely nothing.

He didn't just sign that contract this off season. Up until this season he's essentially been a .9 ppg player with multiple seasons of 30 plus goals.

You can' absolutely say he's disappointing this year, but he was paid appropriately for what he was producing.

Personally, I didn't like him before he signed the contract. Even back then he would have a good game and then take the next game off. At least back then he would have good games.

So he was coming off a 27-48-75 season in 74 games, so over a point per game, was young, had shown point improvements over every season, has blazing fast speed, but you wouldn't have extended him?

There isn't a GM in the history of the NHL who wouldn't have extended him. I mean let's be serious here.

This and I’ll also add that he’s been a very consistent offensive producer and a much better 2 way player since he signed that contract. This is the first year where he’s been bad. But pretty much every forward has been bad this year so whatever’s going on doesn’t seem to be related to Kyrou specifically.

Yep absolutely. I'm in the he is very likely to be traded camp, but it doesn't have to do with his play or production, but because he can get us the best return, and we absolutely need a change. Schenn or Faulk aren't going to return what we actually need, they might get a 1st rounder closer to the TDL, but we really don't need additional 1st rounders, we need players and Kyrou would absolutely get us that.

[Jeff Goldblum]

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

Apparently they are. Just like they are giving out $8 million to Kyrou to do absolutely nothing.

He didn't just sign that contract this off season. Up until this season he's essentially been a .9 ppg player with multiple seasons of 30 plus goals.

You can' absolutely say he's disappointing this year, but he was paid appropriately for what he was producing.

Personally, I didn't like him before he signed the contract. Even back then he would have a good game and then take the next game off. At least back then he would have good games.

So he was coming off a 27-48-75 season in 74 games, so over a point per game, was young, had shown point improvements over every season, has blazing fast speed, but you wouldn't have extended him?

There isn't a GM in the history of the NHL who wouldn't have extended him. I mean let's be serious here.

Not for $8m. I got back to the playoffs series against Minnesota where he scored a couple of goals and took over a game. Next game he was nonexistent. Like no effort nonexistent.

well that was the going amount for a point per game player that you were buying out UFA years.

OK. And I didn't like it and I don't like it.

[Old_Goat]

The "experts" on this site believe that a player's worth is directly tied to his offensive output. Coaches look at the intangibles.

For example - rewatch the game winning goal from yesterday. Specifically, a play along the boards with a check that sprang Snuggerud for possession and zone entry. Take a close look at who made that play happen.

Oh. Hey... Son of a gun...

+1

the reason Thomas and Buch aren't 'held to the same standards' as Kyrou is there's more to their game than just scoring. that should be obvious but..

They’re also paid to be our top scorers yet aren’t. That other stuff is great but that’s not why they were given their deals.

Buchnevich isnt paid to be a top scorer.

He scored 30, 26 and 27 his first 3 years so yeah he is.

Kyrou is paid to score. Thomas is paid to facilitate. Buch is paid to do a little bit of everything.

No one is giving out $8M per year to do a little bit of everything.

Apparently they are. Just like they are giving out $8 million to Kyrou to do absolutely nothing.

He didn't just sign that contract this off season. Up until this season he's essentially been a .9 ppg player with multiple seasons of 30 plus goals.

You can' absolutely say he's disappointing this year, but he was paid appropriately for what he was producing.

Personally, I didn't like him before he signed the contract. Even back then he would have a good game and then take the next game off. At least back then he would have good games.

So he was coming off a 27-48-75 season in 74 games, so over a point per game, was young, had shown point improvements over every season, has blazing fast speed, but you wouldn't have extended him?

There isn't a GM in the history of the NHL who wouldn't have extended him. I mean let's be serious here.

This and I’ll also add that he’s been a very consistent offensive producer and a much better 2 way player since he signed that contract. This is the first year where he’s been bad. But pretty much every forward has been bad this year so whatever’s going on doesn’t seem to be related to Kyrou specifically.

JackB and you make good points. Had someone else signed him for more than what we were willing to pay and he himself played better rounded or was better surrounded on that team throughout these past few years, then a lot of folks would be pounding on that. Monday Morning Quarterback is probably the easiest position in sports.
However, having said all of that...the time and play is now and if an improvement can be made, then recency bias indicates to go ahead and make that move.