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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 01:04 am
by hugeCardfan
OldRed wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 11:18 am
Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Could be the case.
I don't think they'll trade those.
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 07:16 am
by CNYFan
My thought is the DBacks saw the market for Donovan and decided they would like that for Marte, who many believe is better than Marte. Other teams then made their Donovan like players available, thereby driving down the market for Donovan. So the return there may be waiting on Marte, or just so diminished that it would be better to keep him.
JoJo will have a market. Everyone needs relief in the era of 5 inning starts.
Arenado - Bregman again. he may be back.
Contreras, the Mets went a different direction so it could be CB has high asking prices.
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 07:24 am
by scoutyjones2
OldRed wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 11:18 am
Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Could be the case.
The Cards have players they don't want. So insightful
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 07:25 am
by OldRed
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:24 am
OldRed wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 11:18 am
Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Could be the case.
The Cards have players they don't want. So insightful
Now that is a stupid comment.
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 07:32 am
by scoutyjones2
OldRed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:25 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:24 am
OldRed wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 11:18 am
Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Could be the case.
The Cards have players they don't want. So insightful
Now that is a stupid comment.
Playing to the level of the pist
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 07:36 am
by sikeston bulldog2
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:32 am
OldRed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:25 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:24 am
OldRed wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 11:18 am
Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Could be the case.
The Cards have players they don't want. So insightful
Now that is a stupid comment.
Playing to the level of the pist
All teams are stuck with several players. Contract wise. Both time and money. I’d think all have players others don’t want.
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 07:46 am
by scoutyjones2
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:36 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:32 am
OldRed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:25 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:24 am
OldRed wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 11:18 am
Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Could be the case.
The Cards have players they don't want. So insightful
Now that is a stupid comment.
Playing to the level of the pist
All teams are stuck with several players. Contract wise. Both time and money. I’d think all have players others don’t want.
That's why this thread should be mocked. Hence the use of the word insightful
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 07:53 am
by sikeston bulldog2
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:46 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:36 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:32 am
OldRed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:25 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:24 am
OldRed wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 11:18 am
Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Could be the case.
The Cards have players they don't want. So insightful
Now that is a stupid comment.
Playing to the level of the pist
All teams are stuck with several players. Contract wise. Both time and money. I’d think all have players others don’t want.
That's why this thread should be mocked. Hence the use of the word insightful
I understand. The thread was constructed very simply. I’d expect it will drive the direction in which it is received.
As for mocking, you know me, I’ll do it in jest, in lyrics. Saves me unnecessary jargon.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 08:00 am
by ecleme22
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:53 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:46 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:36 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:32 am
OldRed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:25 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:24 am
OldRed wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 11:18 am
Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Could be the case.
The Cards have players they don't want. So insightful
Now that is a stupid comment.
Playing to the level of the pist
All teams are stuck with several players. Contract wise. Both time and money. I’d think all have players others don’t want.
That's why this thread should be mocked. Hence the use of the word insightful
I understand. The thread was constructed very simply. I’d expect it will drive the direction in which it is received.
As for mocking, you know me, I’ll do it in jest, in lyrics. Saves me unnecessary jargon.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
It’s a very complain-y whine-y OP based on zero evidence.
Now, if the OP made it all about Arenado, he could have a point and open up an interesting convo.
But he’s just pouting Bloom made not trades at the winter meetings. But of course that doesn’t mean “no teams want cards players boo hoo.”
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 08:06 am
by sikeston bulldog2
ecleme22 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 08:00 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:53 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:46 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:36 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:32 am
OldRed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:25 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:24 am
OldRed wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 11:18 am
Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Could be the case.
The Cards have players they don't want. So insightful
Now that is a stupid comment.
Playing to the level of the pist
All teams are stuck with several players. Contract wise. Both time and money. I’d think all have players others don’t want.
That's why this thread should be mocked. Hence the use of the word insightful
I understand. The thread was constructed very simply. I’d expect it will drive the direction in which it is received.
As for mocking, you know me, I’ll do it in jest, in lyrics. Saves me unnecessary jargon.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
It’s a very complain-y whine-y OP based on zero evidence.
Now, if the OP made it all about Arenado, he could have a point and open up an interesting convo.
But he’s just pouting Bloom made not trades at the winter meetings. But of course that doesn’t mean “no teams want cards players boo hoo.”
It’s a good example of a thread constructed on a mere random thought. It works.
The content and context will determine its demise.
If it were me, and I had to publish it, I’d probably find an existing thread to embed it with.
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 08:55 am
by rockondlouie
Cusecards wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 14:44 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 13:32 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 13:20 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 12:56 pm
Huh?
15+ teams after Donny
6+ teams reportedly after JoJo
WillyC drawing attention, even an injured Noot
Gray already gone
Patience OR
I for one am glad C. Bloom is taking his time, sticking to his trade demands and not rushing a trade just to quiet some disgruntled fans.
Agree
I get that fans have questions and want action.
But....it is December 15th after all.
And....I get the excitement over the Winter Meetings which can be the start of trading frenzy but every year is different.
Sometimes the “Market” just takes more time to develop and again it is early.
So far I’m optimistic about what Bloom has done. But just getting started.
I really like the May signing and BTW I’m not predicting anything as to him performing.
I just like his stuff and only committing to a one year deal!
I'm a big fan of the D. May signing too cuse, we just need him to stay healthy!
The trades will come but Bloom isn't going to take just any offer, he's rightfully holding all the cards (bad pun
) and he knows it.
Patience is the key, stay cool & let other POBO/GM's get antsy to satisfy their screaming for trades fan bases.
Yes
And I’ve been chuckling over all the angst concerning the Winter Meetings.
What teams actually did much of anything?
Ditto
I think the whinners are all suffering from Mo hangover.
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 09:05 am
by Cusecards
rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 08:55 am
Cusecards wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 14:44 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 13:32 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 13:20 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 12:56 pm
Huh?
15+ teams after Donny
6+ teams reportedly after JoJo
WillyC drawing attention, even an injured Noot
Gray already gone
Patience OR
I for one am glad C. Bloom is taking his time, sticking to his trade demands and not rushing a trade just to quiet some disgruntled fans.
Agree
I get that fans have questions and want action.
But....it is December 15th after all.
And....I get the excitement over the Winter Meetings which can be the start of trading frenzy but every year is different.
Sometimes the “Market” just takes more time to develop and again it is early.
So far I’m optimistic about what Bloom has done. But just getting started.
I really like the May signing and BTW I’m not predicting anything as to him performing.
I just like his stuff and only committing to a one year deal!
I'm a big fan of the D. May signing too cuse, we just need him to stay healthy!
The trades will come but Bloom isn't going to take just any offer, he's rightfully holding all the cards (bad pun
) and he knows it.
Patience is the key, stay cool & let other POBO/GM's get antsy to satisfy their screaming for trades fan bases.
Yes
And I’ve been chuckling over all the angst concerning the Winter Meetings.
What teams actually did much of anything?
Ditto
I think the whinners are all suffering from Mo hangover.
Look...I get the frustration. 3 years missing the post season from an organization that has prided itself in competing on a yearly basis!
I’m a sports fan and I root passionately for many other teams in many other sports.
But I still try to keep it as entertainment.
Refuse to let it make me miserable.
Here’s an analogy Rock:
*You’re a long time fan of a TV show.
*Recently the show has gone down hill in quality.
*If you can still enjoy the show...fine. But would you keep watching if it made you miserable?
And yes....It was time for a FO change. We got that!
To me MO is an afterthought.
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 09:14 am
by rockondlouie
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:05 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 08:55 am
Cusecards wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 14:44 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 13:32 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 13:20 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 12:56 pm
Huh?
15+ teams after Donny
6+ teams reportedly after JoJo
WillyC drawing attention, even an injured Noot
Gray already gone
Patience OR
I for one am glad C. Bloom is taking his time, sticking to his trade demands and not rushing a trade just to quiet some disgruntled fans.
Agree
I get that fans have questions and want action.
But....it is December 15th after all.
And....I get the excitement over the Winter Meetings which can be the start of trading frenzy but every year is different.
Sometimes the “Market” just takes more time to develop and again it is early.
So far I’m optimistic about what Bloom has done. But just getting started.
I really like the May signing and BTW I’m not predicting anything as to him performing.
I just like his stuff and only committing to a one year deal!
I'm a big fan of the D. May signing too cuse, we just need him to stay healthy!
The trades will come but Bloom isn't going to take just any offer, he's rightfully holding all the cards (bad pun
) and he knows it.
Patience is the key, stay cool & let other POBO/GM's get antsy to satisfy their screaming for trades fan bases.
Yes
And I’ve been chuckling over all the angst concerning the Winter Meetings.
What teams actually did much of anything?
Ditto
I think the whinners are all suffering from Mo hangover.
Look...I get the frustration. 3 years missing the post season from an organization that has prided itself in competing on a yearly basis!
I’m a sports fan and I root passionately for many other teams in many other sports.
But I still try to keep it as entertainment.
Refuse to let it make me miserable.
Here’s an analogy Rock:
*You’re a long time fan of a TV show.
*Recently the show has gone down hill in quality.
*If you can still enjoy the show...fine. But would you keep watching if it made you miserable?
And yes....It was time for a FO change. We got that!
To me MO is an afterthought.
I've done that many times too cuse, even after the TV show "jumped the shark".
I bleed Cardinals red come he ll or high water and put my money where my mouth is w/season tixs for over a decade.
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 09:21 am
by Cusecards
rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:14 am
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:05 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 08:55 am
Cusecards wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 14:44 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 13:32 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 13:20 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 12:56 pm
Huh?
15+ teams after Donny
6+ teams reportedly after JoJo
WillyC drawing attention, even an injured Noot
Gray already gone
Patience OR
I for one am glad C. Bloom is taking his time, sticking to his trade demands and not rushing a trade just to quiet some disgruntled fans.
Agree
I get that fans have questions and want action.
But....it is December 15th after all.
And....I get the excitement over the Winter Meetings which can be the start of trading frenzy but every year is different.
Sometimes the “Market” just takes more time to develop and again it is early.
So far I’m optimistic about what Bloom has done. But just getting started.
I really like the May signing and BTW I’m not predicting anything as to him performing.
I just like his stuff and only committing to a one year deal!
I'm a big fan of the D. May signing too cuse, we just need him to stay healthy!
The trades will come but Bloom isn't going to take just any offer, he's rightfully holding all the cards (bad pun
) and he knows it.
Patience is the key, stay cool & let other POBO/GM's get antsy to satisfy their screaming for trades fan bases.
Yes
And I’ve been chuckling over all the angst concerning the Winter Meetings.
What teams actually did much of anything?
Ditto
I think the whinners are all suffering from Mo hangover.
Look...I get the frustration. 3 years missing the post season from an organization that has prided itself in competing on a yearly basis!
I’m a sports fan and I root passionately for many other teams in many other sports.
But I still try to keep it as entertainment.
Refuse to let it make me miserable.
Here’s an analogy Rock:
*You’re a long time fan of a TV show.
*Recently the show has gone down hill in quality.
*If you can still enjoy the show...fine. But would you keep watching if it made you miserable?
And yes....It was time for a FO change. We got that!
To me MO is an afterthought.
I've done that many times too cuse, even after the TV show "jumped the shark".
I bleed Cardinals red come he ll or high water and put my money where my mouth is w/season tixs for over a decade.
Live on the East Coast and only been to Busch once.
If I lived there I would still go despite the downturn in results.
I’ll probably catch some flak for my comments Rock....but my stance on my Cards fandom is totally personal.
I am in no way telling other fans how they should feel.
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 09:24 am
by Goldfan
This is MO…..so show me
There was player movement at Winter Meetings…..none of the Cards “Highly Sought After On Fire” names moved….
So what else do we have to go on.
Ya’ll read notes from scribes who we know get fed propaganda from the top and you believe like it like it’s gospel….
You believe “reporters”…..some of us believe what we see
If I’m a team and I really WANT Donny….I give Bloom the offer I know will land him so no other team gets him. From that point the “On Fire” level degrades to puffs of smoke.
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Posted: 16 Dec 2025 09:30 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Goldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:24 am
This is MO…..so show me
There was player movement at Winter Meetings…..none of the Cards “Highly Sought After On Fire” names moved….
So what else do we have to go on.
Ya’ll read notes from scribes who we know get fed propaganda from the top and you believe like it like it’s gospel….
You believe “reporters”…..some of us believe what we see
If I’m a team and I really WANT Donny….I give Bloom the offer I know will land him so no other team gets him. From that point the “On Fire” level degrades to puffs of smoke.
I can relate.