rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 Dec 2025 09:57 am
About new Cardinals starter R. Fitts:
“When I (Fitts) talked to [president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom] it was about wanting success for many years, and I want to be a part of that. It was awesome to hear where [the Cardinals] are at -- this isn’t the start of any kind of rebuild or anything; it was, ‘we feel we’re close to being ready to complete and we want you to be a part of that.’”
100% saw that. Hoping that means we will be looking to add talent that is big league ready or already has some big league experience and not trying to get a bunch of guys eho are in A ball.
MattMitch will not want to hear this.
And on cue C4L matt did indeed not like it and he saw it as a fit for his lose 90-100 games for years agenda.
Bloom said. “Our goal is to field a team every year that can compete for this division and for a World Series championship.”
Bloom's quote said he recognizes that what is better for the short term might conflict with what is better for the long term, and when it does they are going to prioritize the long term.
Bloom's quote is his words and their right there in black & White, no need for you to "interpret" matt.
This is what he said:
“Sometimes the long term might conflict with the short term … and when those things run in opposite directions, we’re going to choose the long term because that’s where this organization needs to be,” Bloom said.
Of course, same as I've been saying for months.
And he also said:
“Our goal is to field a team every year that can compete for this division and for a World Series championship.”
“[Bloom's] been clear about that, and he stated it well when he said we're not conceding anything in the immediate,” Marmol said. “I love the mentality because you can't lower the standard".
Sure - but we know they don't think they yet have the young core necessary to compete for a WS in 2026. That's what they are keeping their eye on when it comes to where the organization needs to be in the long term - that is what they "need to get back to." But if you acknowledge you need to get back there, you are not there now.
They will demand that every player in a Cardinals uniform go out and compete to win every game.
But I certainly don't think that means they are committing to go out and spend a lot of money this offseason to get the "stars" that would be necessary to really compete in 2026.
Only one team can win a WS matt, there's nothing wrong w/competing for one either.
Again, we're in complete agreement on the L-T vision which is to re-build the farm system so it funnels quality players to the Cardinals.
BUT
That can be accomplished and the big club can also still compete.
There's is nothing extra to be gained, other than a better draft slot, by tanking and losing 90-100 games you've mentioned doing more than once.
Bloom can walk & chew gum at the same time, this isn't Mo's inept front office anymore.
(And I've NEVER said they should go out this season and spend BIG money. I fully understand they're in re-build mode. And I've been pretty clear (IMO) the only money BDWJr will allow Bloom to spend will possibly come from any net payroll he can shed via trading S. Gray, NADO, Donny, WillyC, ect......)
To be clear, there is a big gap between actually competing and losing 90 or 100 games. That gap is "just being mediocre."
The Cardinals will be at best in that just being mediocre level.
But at least they will just be mediocre with a plan as to how to get better long term.
I wanted Mo fired many years ago, no argument here as he stood for "mediocre" as long as he could keep 3+M coming.
Give Bloom some credit, he's not Mo.
It's no slight on Bloom. It's just the reality that this roster can't be made better than just mediocre with anything short of a $200+ million budget, which is not going to happen.
Of course
But he can improve the roster when comped to the 2025 team, perhaps even surprising people like you by playing above .500 ball.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 Dec 2025 09:57 am
About new Cardinals starter R. Fitts:
“When I (Fitts) talked to [president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom] it was about wanting success for many years, and I want to be a part of that. It was awesome to hear where [the Cardinals] are at -- this isn’t the start of any kind of rebuild or anything; it was, ‘we feel we’re close to being ready to complete and we want you to be a part of that.’”
100% saw that. Hoping that means we will be looking to add talent that is big league ready or already has some big league experience and not trying to get a bunch of guys eho are in A ball.
MattMitch will not want to hear this.
And on cue C4L matt did indeed not like it and he saw it as a fit for his lose 90-100 games for years agenda.
Bloom said. “Our goal is to field a team every year that can compete for this division and for a World Series championship.”
Bloom's quote said he recognizes that what is better for the short term might conflict with what is better for the long term, and when it does they are going to prioritize the long term.
Bloom's quote is his words and their right there in black & White, no need for you to "interpret" matt.
This is what he said:
“Sometimes the long term might conflict with the short term … and when those things run in opposite directions, we’re going to choose the long term because that’s where this organization needs to be,” Bloom said.
Of course, same as I've been saying for months.
And he also said:
“Our goal is to field a team every year that can compete for this division and for a World Series championship.”
“[Bloom's] been clear about that, and he stated it well when he said we're not conceding anything in the immediate,” Marmol said. “I love the mentality because you can't lower the standard".
Sure - but we know they don't think they yet have the young core necessary to compete for a WS in 2026. That's what they are keeping their eye on when it comes to where the organization needs to be in the long term - that is what they "need to get back to." But if you acknowledge you need to get back there, you are not there now.
They will demand that every player in a Cardinals uniform go out and compete to win every game.
But I certainly don't think that means they are committing to go out and spend a lot of money this offseason to get the "stars" that would be necessary to really compete in 2026.
Only one team can win a WS matt, there's nothing wrong w/competing for one either.
Again, we're in complete agreement on the L-T vision which is to re-build the farm system so it funnels quality players to the Cardinals.
BUT
That can be accomplished and the big club can also still compete.
There's is nothing extra to be gained, other than a better draft slot, by tanking and losing 90-100 games you've mentioned doing more than once.
Bloom can walk & chew gum at the same time, this isn't Mo's inept front office anymore.
(And I've NEVER said they should go out this season and spend BIG money. I fully understand they're in re-build mode. And I've been pretty clear (IMO) the only money BDWJr will allow Bloom to spend will possibly come from any net payroll he can shed via trading S. Gray, NADO, Donny, WillyC, ect......)
To be clear, there is a big gap between actually competing and losing 90 or 100 games. That gap is "just being mediocre."
The Cardinals will be at best in that just being mediocre level.
But at least they will just be mediocre with a plan as to how to get better long term.
I wanted Mo fired many years ago, no argument here as he stood for "mediocre" as long as he could keep 3+M coming.
Give Bloom some credit, he's not Mo.
It's no slight on Bloom. It's just the reality that this roster can't be made better than just mediocre with anything short of a $200+ million budget, which is not going to happen.
AND that’s where YOU are WRONG, but too blind or stubborn to see it! The Cardinals aren’t nearly as bad as you believe. I know no matter what me or anyone says is a going to change your mind, so I’ll just leave it at that!
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 Dec 2025 09:57 am
About new Cardinals starter R. Fitts:
“When I (Fitts) talked to [president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom] it was about wanting success for many years, and I want to be a part of that. It was awesome to hear where [the Cardinals] are at -- this isn’t the start of any kind of rebuild or anything; it was, ‘we feel we’re close to being ready to complete and we want you to be a part of that.’”
100% saw that. Hoping that means we will be looking to add talent that is big league ready or already has some big league experience and not trying to get a bunch of guys eho are in A ball.
MattMitch will not want to hear this.
And on cue C4L matt did indeed not like it and he saw it as a fit for his lose 90-100 games for years agenda.
Bloom said. “Our goal is to field a team every year that can compete for this division and for a World Series championship.”
Bloom's quote said he recognizes that what is better for the short term might conflict with what is better for the long term, and when it does they are going to prioritize the long term.
Yep he's not going to sacrifice the long term plan...even if it might make them more competitive now....
