Donovan + Demand = December (and Dodgers)

[WaltsSuccessor]

I've always felt the Dodgers could jump on Donny as well.

That said, there's going to be what, a half dozen or more teams also all over him?

Let the bidding war build and if the Dodgers really want him, then make them PAY!

I know that's the popular notion, but they already have Tommy Edman. How many utility players do they need?

[rockondlouie]

I've always felt the Dodgers could jump on Donny as well.

That said, there's going to be what, a half dozen or more teams also all over him?

Let the bidding war build and if the Dodgers really want him, then make them PAY!

I know that's the popular notion, but they already have Tommy Edman. How many utility players do they need?

Heck Walt they had what, seven or eight starting pitchers at one time last season under contract (a third on the IL)?

Money is no object for them and they seem to love collecting quality players.

Could they let M. Muncy go and install Donny at 3rd base if they inked him?

[WaltsSuccessor]

I've always felt the Dodgers could jump on Donny as well.

That said, there's going to be what, a half dozen or more teams also all over him?

Let the bidding war build and if the Dodgers really want him, then make them PAY!

I know that's the popular notion, but they already have Tommy Edman. How many utility players do they need?

Heck Walt they had what, seven or eight starting pitchers at one time last season under contract (a third on the IL)?

Money is no object for them and they seem to love collecting quality players.

Could they let M. Muncy go and install Donny at 3rd base if they inked him?

Well I know LF was a black hole for them last year (could've told them that Conforto isn't good). But if the main objective is to upgrade LF, why not just sign an actual corner OF rather than acquire another utility guy to play there? Since money is no object, I hear this Kyle Tucker guy is pretty good...

[renostl]

I've always felt the Dodgers could jump on Donny as well.

That said, there's going to be what, a half dozen or more teams also all over him?

Let the bidding war build and if the Dodgers really want him, then make them PAY!

I know that's the popular notion, but they already have Tommy Edman. How many utility players do they need?

Heck Walt they had what, seven or eight starting pitchers at one time last season under contract (a third on the IL)?

Money is no object for them and they seem to love collecting quality players.

Could they let M. Muncy go and install Donny at 3rd base if they inked him?

Well I know LF was a black hole for them last year (could've told them that Conforto isn't good). But if the main objective is to upgrade LF, why not just sign an actual corner OF rather than acquire another utility guy to play there? Since money is no object, I hear this Kyle Tucker guy is pretty good...

I think he'd be a Kike replacement as much as anything.

[rockondlouie]

I've always felt the Dodgers could jump on Donny as well.

That said, there's going to be what, a half dozen or more teams also all over him?

Let the bidding war build and if the Dodgers really want him, then make them PAY!

I know that's the popular notion, but they already have Tommy Edman. How many utility players do they need?

Heck Walt they had what, seven or eight starting pitchers at one time last season under contract (a third on the IL)?

Money is no object for them and they seem to love collecting quality players.

Could they let M. Muncy go and install Donny at 3rd base if they inked him?

Well I know LF was a black hole for them last year (could've told them that Conforto isn't good). But if the main objective is to upgrade LF, why not just sign an actual corner OF rather than acquire another utility guy to play there? Since money is no object, I hear this Kyle Tucker guy is pretty good...

Okay there you go, Donny in LF or 3rd base.

And from what I know they are one of the top teams after Tucker so Donny could be there fallback if he signs elsewhere.

[AZ_Cardsfan]

I don't have access to trade values now. Are all you guys paid members to that or am I missing something?

On deals with the Dodgers Sirota does fit the mold of who we would want. He and perhaps BUT if it's me I try to go straight across for De Paula. I know he hits L but he HITS everywhere he goes. And for power. THAT is what the team needs.

Don't razz on me. I've no idea if this is a "fair" trade.

If you go to the trade boards and type in a name, it will pull that name up with the trade value. So that is a way to get it for free, albeit, it is slow.

In the recently completed Gray trade, the Cards traded $11M of net value in return for $23M of prospect value. Perhaps the certainty of a ML player v. the uncertainty of a prospect will retrieve a premium for the ML players. Josue De Paula, the Dodgers top prospect, $47M and River Ryan $17M totaling $64M for Donovan $31M and Nootbar $11M totaling $42M appears to be an overpay by the Dodgers. But is it really given the $10M for 1 player in the Sonny Gray trade. Also, could the Cards put another prospect into the deal to make that work. If the Cards are going to trade Donovan, they need to get the best possible players in return. The Dodgers have no catching depth in their system. I don't want to trade them Bernal. But, I would put Jimmy Crooks into this deal, $11M which brings the Cards oal up to $53M. Given the Gray deal, that has to be about balanced.

First thanks for the tip. I stopped using them when it required money membership but one can still get data slower.

I would be happy to add one of the catchers other than Rodriguez. Heck I'm not a fatty hater as I could stand to drop another 15 LBs and still not be a model. (Was 230 once now 195). But I prefer players that are closer to a lean body weight and both the other guys are quite large. I'm here to say Yadi doesn't have anything like the career he had if he hadn't shed excess weight. Kudos to him.

If we can return a package of De Paulo, and Ryan I'm good sending Donovan, Noot and Crooks.

It would be a scary deal for both sides which means it might be a good trade.

[renostl]

I am hopeful that the Cardinals reach an agreement to trade Brendan Donovan at the Winter Meetings, or at least by Christmas. He is in demand, but you can overplay your hand.

At this time, I would rate the Los Angeles Dodgers as the best fit for Donovan. The Dodgers are laser-focused on a 3-peat. It is not unthinkable that they could win 5 World Series in the next 10 years. They have the resources to deal with every immediate problem that may present itself. In this case, that means prospects of value to trade, and the willingness to do so. The Dodgers don’t let their prospects wither and die- they promote them or move them out (usually). Any Dodgers prospect, taken on their own, is expendable. Expendable doesn’t mean not good, it means they won’t miss them. If they feel like a move will set them up for another World Series next year, they will spend that prospect.

I’ll add my proposal to the thread shortly.

Are you aware Bloom traded with the Dodgers when he was running the Red Sox and the prospects were less than overwhelming.

For all the hype that teams prospects get, the graduates seem few.
Maybe this group will excel

It's an educated guess when you acquire prospects. I'd try to get some international signing money and just sign 40 guys + 20 in the amateur draft. Then cull the herd in the low minors.

Just like the draft, with the possibility of more information to be more educated.

[ScotchMIrish]

I am hopeful that the Cardinals reach an agreement to trade Brendan Donovan at the Winter Meetings, or at least by Christmas. He is in demand, but you can overplay your hand.

At this time, I would rate the Los Angeles Dodgers as the best fit for Donovan. The Dodgers are laser-focused on a 3-peat. It is not unthinkable that they could win 5 World Series in the next 10 years. They have the resources to deal with every immediate problem that may present itself. In this case, that means prospects of value to trade, and the willingness to do so. The Dodgers don’t let their prospects wither and die- they promote them or move them out (usually). Any Dodgers prospect, taken on their own, is expendable. Expendable doesn’t mean not good, it means they won’t miss them. If they feel like a move will set them up for another World Series next year, they will spend that prospect.

I’ll add my proposal to the thread shortly.

Are you aware Bloom traded with the Dodgers when he was running the Red Sox and the prospects were less than overwhelming.

For all the hype that teams prospects get, the graduates seem few.
Maybe this group will excel

It's an educated guess when you acquire prospects. I'd try to get some international signing money and just sign 40 guys + 20 in the amateur draft. Then cull the herd in the low minors.

Just like the draft, with the possibility of more information to be more educated.

True. The difference is you are limited only by the amount of money you have in the pool for international signings. You can accumulate a larger herd to cull.

The money limit was put in place by the player's union and big market teams. They didn't like Pittsburgh spend the most on the draft and international signings while carrying a low MLB payroll.