Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 21:46 pm
They all just seem like really good players. I don't want to punch any of them.
How can you enjoy watching a team that has such a revenue advantage? It cheapens the sport. It's not truly a competitive athletic competition when one team can field a team that was put together with unlimited resources.
MLB is not a serious sport until the cap arrives. When even F1 finally went to a cap....and now the professional soccer/football is doing the same.....there is only one sport left to take the plunge. Make it fair. Make it a sport again.
I'm much more worried about the Pirates receiving basically as much in revenue sharing as they spend on the entire payroll. That's much worse for fans than a handful of big market teams who will spend whatever it takes to win.
Every single owner can afford to do what the Dodgers, Mets, Phillies and Padres do. And fans like you who argue that LAD/NYM/PHI/SDP are the main problem instead of PIT/WSH/MIA/CHW/OAK/MIN/COL... well let's just say the billionaires are really happy to have you fighting their fight for them and without even getting paid.
It’s sad they don’t get it.
WTH are you guys talking about? Are you just blindly spiteful of all team owners and ownership groups because they have money that you just immediately assume "they're billionaires and they can afford anything they want!"
The Padres had to borrow $50 million to cover their payroll. The Mets spent so much on payroll in 2024 they apparently lost money. The majority of MLB teams are owned by groups, not individuals. They're in MLB ownership to make money. There's not THAT much rev sharing in MLB.
Most teams cannot afford to blindly spend money like the Dodgers and still remain profitable. The Dodgers can because of the market they're in.
Last edited by blackinkbiz on 14 Oct 2025 16:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 00:19 am
Can't stand that organization. Freeman seems like a phoney. And Ohtani got away with something others served lifetime bans for. They manipulate the IL.
Hilarious. An opinion about a player you don't know. A anger statement wanting a player banned when no rule violation was found. And a whiney statement that a team follows rules concerning injuries, but you don't like that they do.
So one has to personally know a player to have an opinion? I guess the concept of being a fan is eliminated in your mind. Freeman took the big $ and bright lights of LA. Then attempted to save face in ATL by saying he was unaware the Braves had made an acceptable offer. [nonsense]. He had enough connections in that organization to know what was happening in the contract talks.
My statement concerning Ohtani was not based in anger. You are gullible if you believe the translator story. MLB couldn't let their cash cow take a fall.
As for IL manipulation, yes a lot of teams do it. The Dodgers tend to do it most.
Your theory on Othani is only missing the small element of proof.
Proof that we will never see. If you believe his interpreter had access to his financials, i cant help you. Gullible.
Call me all the names you want. There is no proof to the contrary, so i'll stick with that.
Serious question. Do you believe an interpreter had access to that kind of money on his own?
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 00:19 am
Can't stand that organization. Freeman seems like a phoney. And Ohtani got away with something others served lifetime bans for. They manipulate the IL.
Hilarious. An opinion about a player you don't know. A anger statement wanting a player banned when no rule violation was found. And a whiney statement that a team follows rules concerning injuries, but you don't like that they do.
So one has to personally know a player to have an opinion? I guess the concept of being a fan is eliminated in your mind. Freeman took the big $ and bright lights of LA. Then attempted to save face in ATL by saying he was unaware the Braves had made an acceptable offer. [nonsense]. He had enough connections in that organization to know what was happening in the contract talks.
My statement concerning Ohtani was not based in anger. You are gullible if you believe the translator story. MLB couldn't let their cash cow take a fall.
As for IL manipulation, yes a lot of teams do it. The Dodgers tend to do it most.
Your theory on Othani is only missing the small element of proof.
Proof that we will never see. If you believe his interpreter had access to his financials, i cant help you. Gullible.
Call me all the names you want. There is no proof to the contrary, so i'll stick with that.
Serious question. Do you believe an interpreter had access to that kind of money on his own?
It doesn't matter what either of us believe. The facts were presented. Based on what is there, yes I believe the verdict. I don't find it unbelievable, though.
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 00:19 am
Can't stand that organization. Freeman seems like a phoney. And Ohtani got away with something others served lifetime bans for. They manipulate the IL.
Hilarious. An opinion about a player you don't know. A anger statement wanting a player banned when no rule violation was found. And a whiney statement that a team follows rules concerning injuries, but you don't like that they do.
So one has to personally know a player to have an opinion? I guess the concept of being a fan is eliminated in your mind. Freeman took the big $ and bright lights of LA. Then attempted to save face in ATL by saying he was unaware the Braves had made an acceptable offer. [nonsense]. He had enough connections in that organization to know what was happening in the contract talks.
My statement concerning Ohtani was not based in anger. You are gullible if you believe the translator story. MLB couldn't let their cash cow take a fall.
As for IL manipulation, yes a lot of teams do it. The Dodgers tend to do it most.
Your theory on Othani is only missing the small element of proof.
Proof that we will never see. If you believe his interpreter had access to his financials, i cant help you. Gullible.
Call me all the names you want. There is no proof to the contrary, so i'll stick with that.
Serious question. Do you believe an interpreter had access to that kind of money on his own?
You might be underestimating how much someone is at the mercy of their interpreters when he doesn't speak the native language. You might also be underestimating how easy it is to steal from newly rich mega celebrities when you're in their inner circle.
That said...who knows? I don't know Ohtani personally. Maybe he likes the ponies. We can agree MLB has every reason to look the other way.
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 00:19 am
Can't stand that organization. Freeman seems like a phoney. And Ohtani got away with something others served lifetime bans for. They manipulate the IL.
Hilarious. An opinion about a player you don't know. A anger statement wanting a player banned when no rule violation was found. And a whiney statement that a team follows rules concerning injuries, but you don't like that they do.
So one has to personally know a player to have an opinion? I guess the concept of being a fan is eliminated in your mind. Freeman took the big $ and bright lights of LA. Then attempted to save face in ATL by saying he was unaware the Braves had made an acceptable offer. [nonsense]. He had enough connections in that organization to know what was happening in the contract talks.
My statement concerning Ohtani was not based in anger. You are gullible if you believe the translator story. MLB couldn't let their cash cow take a fall.
As for IL manipulation, yes a lot of teams do it. The Dodgers tend to do it most.
Your theory on Othani is only missing the small element of proof.
Proof that we will never see. If you believe his interpreter had access to his financials, i cant help you. Gullible.
Call me all the names you want. There is no proof to the contrary, so i'll stick with that.
Serious question. Do you believe an interpreter had access to that kind of money on his own?
It doesn't matter what either of us believe. The facts were presented. Based on what is there, yes I believe the verdict. I don't find it unbelievable, though.
Sure it matters what either of us believe. Otherwise, we are part of a society of sheep. Maybe Ohtani was taken advantage of by someone he trusted. Or maybe he benefited from his worth to MLB. We will never know all of the story. The full facts will never be told. And the investigation and judgment was swift. Far swifter than most alphabet investigations.
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 21:46 pm
They all just seem like really good players. I don't want to punch any of them.
How can you enjoy watching a team that has such a revenue advantage? It cheapens the sport. It's not truly a competitive athletic competition when one team can field a team that was put together with unlimited resources.
MLB is not a serious sport until the cap arrives. When even F1 finally went to a cap....and now the professional soccer/football is doing the same.....there is only one sport left to take the plunge. Make it fair. Make it a sport again.
I'm much more worried about the Pirates receiving basically as much in revenue sharing as they spend on the entire payroll. That's much worse for fans than a handful of big market teams who will spend whatever it takes to win.
Every single owner can afford to do what the Dodgers, Mets, Phillies and Padres do. And fans like you who argue that LAD/NYM/PHI/SDP are the main problem instead of PIT/WSH/MIA/CHW/OAK/MIN/COL... well let's just say the billionaires are really happy to have you fighting their fight for them and without even getting paid.
Dude, no. Hard no. The Padres had to borrow 50 million to bail themselves out just two years ago. The Twins have zero money. There are a TON of teams that cannot do what you listed. That's one of the more ridiculous things I've seen on here...
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 21:46 pm
They all just seem like really good players. I don't want to punch any of them.
How can you enjoy watching a team that has such a revenue advantage? It cheapens the sport. It's not truly a competitive athletic competition when one team can field a team that was put together with unlimited resources.
MLB is not a serious sport until the cap arrives. When even F1 finally went to a cap....and now the professional soccer/football is doing the same.....there is only one sport left to take the plunge. Make it fair. Make it a sport again.
I'm much more worried about the Pirates receiving basically as much in revenue sharing as they spend on the entire payroll. That's much worse for fans than a handful of big market teams who will spend whatever it takes to win.
Every single owner can afford to do what the Dodgers, Mets, Phillies and Padres do. And fans like you who argue that LAD/NYM/PHI/SDP are the main problem instead of PIT/WSH/MIA/CHW/OAK/MIN/COL... well let's just say the billionaires are really happy to have you fighting their fight for them and without even getting paid.
Dude, no. Hard no. The Padres had to borrow 50 million to bail themselves out just two years ago. The Twins have zero money. There are a TON of teams that cannot do what you listed. That's one of the more ridiculous things I've seen on here...
The Forbes article discussing the Padres states up front that teams do this all the time and it's not indicative of much at all.
The Pohlad family is worth $3.6B, the team debt allegedly $500M... along with rumors that the family was misappropriating team money for their own use.
I maintain that these are people who have unfathomable levels of wealth, and all of them can afford to spend as much as they want. The key is that they don't want.
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 00:19 am
Can't stand that organization. Freeman seems like a phoney. And Ohtani got away with something others served lifetime bans for. They manipulate the IL.
Hilarious. An opinion about a player you don't know. A anger statement wanting a player banned when no rule violation was found. And a whiney statement that a team follows rules concerning injuries, but you don't like that they do.
So one has to personally know a player to have an opinion? I guess the concept of being a fan is eliminated in your mind. Freeman took the big $ and bright lights of LA. Then attempted to save face in ATL by saying he was unaware the Braves had made an acceptable offer. [nonsense]. He had enough connections in that organization to know what was happening in the contract talks.
My statement concerning Ohtani was not based in anger. You are gullible if you believe the translator story. MLB couldn't let their cash cow take a fall.
As for IL manipulation, yes a lot of teams do it. The Dodgers tend to do it most.
Your theory on Othani is only missing the small element of proof.
Proof that we will never see. If you believe his interpreter had access to his financials, i cant help you. Gullible.
Call me all the names you want. There is no proof to the contrary, so i'll stick with that.
Serious question. Do you believe an interpreter had access to that kind of money on his own?
It doesn't matter what either of us believe. The facts were presented. Based on what is there, yes I believe the verdict. I don't find it unbelievable, though.
Sure it matters what either of us believe. Otherwise, we are part of a society of sheep. Maybe Ohtani was taken advantage of by someone he trusted. Or maybe he benefited from his worth to MLB. We will never know all of the story. The full facts will never be told. And the investigation and judgment was swift. Far swifter than most alphabet investigations.
I understand that it matters what we all think about our judicial system. But there is just the evidence presented. You may think you don't have all the facts but there haven't been any other facts presented. And there is nothing to suggest there bet on MLB games.
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 21:46 pm
They all just seem like really good players. I don't want to punch any of them.
How can you enjoy watching a team that has such a revenue advantage? It cheapens the sport. It's not truly a competitive athletic competition when one team can field a team that was put together with unlimited resources.
MLB is not a serious sport until the cap arrives. When even F1 finally went to a cap....and now the professional soccer/football is doing the same.....there is only one sport left to take the plunge. Make it fair. Make it a sport again.
I'm much more worried about the Pirates receiving basically as much in revenue sharing as they spend on the entire payroll. That's much worse for fans than a handful of big market teams who will spend whatever it takes to win.
Every single owner can afford to do what the Dodgers, Mets, Phillies and Padres do. And fans like you who argue that LAD/NYM/PHI/SDP are the main problem instead of PIT/WSH/MIA/CHW/OAK/MIN/COL... well let's just say the billionaires are really happy to have you fighting their fight for them and without even getting paid.
Now this is hilarious. Do you realize the Dodgers have a TV deal alone that pays them $320 million per year? That covers their entire payroll as well as any current penalties. And you say, with a straight face, every other owner can spend like them.
Study economics for just a short time and get back to me.
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 21:46 pm
They all just seem like really good players. I don't want to punch any of them.
How can you enjoy watching a team that has such a revenue advantage? It cheapens the sport. It's not truly a competitive athletic competition when one team can field a team that was put together with unlimited resources.
MLB is not a serious sport until the cap arrives. When even F1 finally went to a cap....and now the professional soccer/football is doing the same.....there is only one sport left to take the plunge. Make it fair. Make it a sport again.
I'm much more worried about the Pirates receiving basically as much in revenue sharing as they spend on the entire payroll. That's much worse for fans than a handful of big market teams who will spend whatever it takes to win.
Every single owner can afford to do what the Dodgers, Mets, Phillies and Padres do. And fans like you who argue that LAD/NYM/PHI/SDP are the main problem instead of PIT/WSH/MIA/CHW/OAK/MIN/COL... well let's just say the billionaires are really happy to have you fighting their fight for them and without even getting paid.
Now this is hilarious. Do you realize the Dodgers have a TV deal alone that pays them $320 million per year? That covers their entire payroll as well as any current penalties. And you say, with a straight face, every other owner can spend like them.
Study economics for just a short time and get back to me.
Do you realize that the Dodgers pay $250M per year in luxury tax + revenue sharing?
I mean we can do this all day. Maybe only a few teams can spend exactly like the Dodgers, but all of them can spend much closer to $200M than $100M in payroll, and doing so would be a gamechanger in competitiveness throughout the league.
Salary floor remains the most important thing, not cap.
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 21:46 pm
They all just seem like really good players. I don't want to punch any of them.
How can you enjoy watching a team that has such a revenue advantage? It cheapens the sport. It's not truly a competitive athletic competition when one team can field a team that was put together with unlimited resources.
MLB is not a serious sport until the cap arrives. When even F1 finally went to a cap....and now the professional soccer/football is doing the same.....there is only one sport left to take the plunge. Make it fair. Make it a sport again.
I'm much more worried about the Pirates receiving basically as much in revenue sharing as they spend on the entire payroll. That's much worse for fans than a handful of big market teams who will spend whatever it takes to win.
Every single owner can afford to do what the Dodgers, Mets, Phillies and Padres do. And fans like you who argue that LAD/NYM/PHI/SDP are the main problem instead of PIT/WSH/MIA/CHW/OAK/MIN/COL... well let's just say the billionaires are really happy to have you fighting their fight for them and without even getting paid.
Now this is hilarious. Do you realize the Dodgers have a TV deal alone that pays them $320 million per year? That covers their entire payroll as well as any current penalties. And you say, with a straight face, every other owner can spend like them.
Study economics for just a short time and get back to me.
Do you realize that the Dodgers pay $250M per year in luxury tax + revenue sharing?
I mean we can do this all day. Maybe only a few teams can spend exactly like the Dodgers, but all of them can spend much closer to $200M than $100M in payroll, and doing so would be a gamechanger in competitiveness throughout the league.
Salary floor remains the most important thing, not cap.
You are absolutely creating numbers. There is zero truth to what you just said. The Dodgers, as well as any other team, do NOT pay anywhere close to $250M per year on luxury tax and rev sharing.
Your argument is old and tired. To even suggest small market teams have anywhere near the resources and opportunity is laughable.
One way to keep this in perspective....I believe this is very close in terms of comparison.....for a team like the Dodgers to draw a similar attendance in terms of market size as the Cardinals/Brewers/Twins, etc...they would need to have 12 Million tickets sold. TWELVE MILLION....my point is they have such a built in advantage simply due to market size that they certainly don't need payroll help as well.
This will all be settled after '26 and a hard cap will be in place. Most likely costing the entire season or more, but it has to be done.
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025 21:46 pm
They all just seem like really good players. I don't want to punch any of them.
How can you enjoy watching a team that has such a revenue advantage? It cheapens the sport. It's not truly a competitive athletic competition when one team can field a team that was put together with unlimited resources.
MLB is not a serious sport until the cap arrives. When even F1 finally went to a cap....and now the professional soccer/football is doing the same.....there is only one sport left to take the plunge. Make it fair. Make it a sport again.
I'm much more worried about the Pirates receiving basically as much in revenue sharing as they spend on the entire payroll. That's much worse for fans than a handful of big market teams who will spend whatever it takes to win.
Every single owner can afford to do what the Dodgers, Mets, Phillies and Padres do. And fans like you who argue that LAD/NYM/PHI/SDP are the main problem instead of PIT/WSH/MIA/CHW/OAK/MIN/COL... well let's just say the billionaires are really happy to have you fighting their fight for them and without even getting paid.
Now this is hilarious. Do you realize the Dodgers have a TV deal alone that pays them $320 million per year? That covers their entire payroll as well as any current penalties. And you say, with a straight face, every other owner can spend like them.
Study economics for just a short time and get back to me.
Do you realize that the Dodgers pay $250M per year in luxury tax + revenue sharing?
I mean we can do this all day. Maybe only a few teams can spend exactly like the Dodgers, but all of them can spend much closer to $200M than $100M in payroll, and doing so would be a gamechanger in competitiveness throughout the league.
Salary floor remains the most important thing, not cap.
You are absolutely creating numbers. There is zero truth to what you just said. The Dodgers, as well as any other team, do NOT pay anywhere close to $250M per year on luxury tax and rev sharing.
Your argument is old and tired. To even suggest small market teams have anywhere near the resources and opportunity is laughable.
One way to keep this in perspective....I believe this is very close in terms of comparison.....for a team like the Dodgers to draw a similar attendance in terms of market size as the Cardinals/Brewers/Twins, etc...they would need to have 12 Million tickets sold. TWELVE MILLION....my point is they have such a built in advantage simply due to market size that they certainly don't need payroll help as well.
This will all be settled after '26 and a hard cap will be in place. Most likely costing the entire season or more, but it has to be done.
“Under MLB rules, Los Angeles must pay an MLB-record $103 million in luxury tax penalties in addition to "around $150 million" in revenue sharing, according to Sportico.”
