Mike Shildt to retire?

[Rojo Johnson]

This is very surprising to me.

Why

He had two years left on his contract, with a very good team.

I was surprised when he and the Cardinals parted ways out of the blue.

He does appear to be a very smart baseball man who can get his teams playing good fundamental baseball and get all the stars to pull in the same direction (like Larussa did). However, with the way his Cardinal tenure ended and now this, I wonder if there are aspects about him or his personality that we don't have the full details of from where we sit (and that's true for any of these personnel).

As has been expressed already in the thread, I hope the best for his health and hope that is not a reason.

He’s a good guy. A little quirky, but a good baseball man. Best wishes to him and his wife. I hope he ends up in some capacity with the Cards.

Sounds like he wears out his welcome pretty quickly. Doubt we see him back in StL.

It took him 20 years to wear out his welcome in the Cardinals organization must have been a real [ash]

lol no kidding

Look who he wore out his welcome with. Moe the half-aszed leader. Moe was such an effin’ whimp. Couldn’t stand up to the poodle the kid next door owned.

[C-Unit]

This is very surprising to me.

Why

He had two years left on his contract, with a very good team.

I was surprised when he and the Cardinals parted ways out of the blue.

He does appear to be a very smart baseball man who can get his teams playing good fundamental baseball and get all the stars to pull in the same direction (like Larussa did). However, with the way his Cardinal tenure ended and now this, I wonder if there are aspects about him or his personality that we don't have the full details of from where we sit (and that's true for any of these personnel).

As has been expressed already in the thread, I hope the best for his health and hope that is not a reason.

He’s a good guy. A little quirky, but a good baseball man. Best wishes to him and his wife. I hope he ends up in some capacity with the Cards.

Sounds like he wears out his welcome pretty quickly. Doubt we see him back in StL.

It took him 20 years to wear out his welcome in the Cardinals organization must have been a real [ash]

lol no kidding

Look who he wore out his welcome with. Moe the half-aszed leader. Moe was such an effin’ whimp. Couldn’t stand up to the poodle the kid next door owned.

Wearing out your welcome with that asswipe Moe might even be seen as a positive

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Sounds like it’s a lot of the same stuff you heard about when he left here: https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/20 ... -everyone/

Mike Shildt was worn out and made the decision to leave his job as Padres manager in order to focus on his mental and physical well-being.
Mike Shildt had worn out many members of the Padres’ coaching and support staffs, as well as others around the organization.
Both things are true at the same time, and that’s what makes his decision to step away on Monday so complicated.

Nearly 20 sources — 12 of them who worked with Shildt on a daily basis during the season — have in recent months characterized Shildt as unyieldingly demanding of his coaching staff and the team’s support staff and as having a tendency to micromanage and possessing a quick temper that is easily triggered by questioning or feedback.

The issues that surfaced in San Diego were virtually identical to the issues that several league sources said led to Shildt’s abrupt dismissal in St. Louis following a 90-win season in 2021 and three playoff appearances in three seasons.

The Padres enlisted people internally to work with Shildt regarding his penchant to snap at colleagues and even superiors who he perceived were questioning him, according to multiple sources. The plan for the offseason was for there to be more discussions and work done regarding his interactions with staff and media.

Many in the organization spoke over the past several months of repeated angry outbursts and what were painted as unproductive and destructive communication tactics. Shildt often made employees feel silly for suggestions or what they deemed helpful information, but he then would sometimes complain that they had not prepared him for situations.

Anyway, there’s a few highlights. Sounds like he wants to get back in on the player development side. I’d take him here. Maybe that’s a role that is more better suited for his temperament. He lasted a long time here, so if he was willing to come back, and if Bloom wanted him, bring him back.

[sdaltons]

I liked him as a manager when he was here but yikes. Seems Mo was right on this one.

[alw80]

This is very surprising to me.

Why

He had two years left on his contract, with a very good team.

I was surprised when he and the Cardinals parted ways out of the blue.

He does appear to be a very smart baseball man who can get his teams playing good fundamental baseball and get all the stars to pull in the same direction (like Larussa did). However, with the way his Cardinal tenure ended and now this, I wonder if there are aspects about him or his personality that we don't have the full details of from where we sit (and that's true for any of these personnel).

As has been expressed already in the thread, I hope the best for his health and hope that is not a reason.

He’s a good guy. A little quirky, but a good baseball man. Best wishes to him and his wife. I hope he ends up in some capacity with the Cards.

Sounds like he wears out his welcome pretty quickly. Doubt we see him back in StL.

It took him 20 years to wear out his welcome in the Cardinals organization must have been a real [ash]

lol no kidding

Look who he wore out his welcome with. Moe the half-aszed leader. Moe was such an effin’ whimp. Couldn’t stand up to the poodle the kid next door owned.

Not just Mo but his coaches too. Sounds like a real P[ositively] O[bnoxious] S[impleton] to work with and for.

[ScotchMIrish]

I think he had a Billy Martin personality without the championships.

[Rojo Johnson]

How long did he work in the Cards” org? Yet, the org still didn’t know who the guy really was? There are just so many weird things that happened with Moe in the captain’s chair. I’ve already worn out several fingernails scratching my head over stupid stuff he did. But boy oh boy. He sure is proud of himself.

[JohnnyMO]

https://redbirdrants.com/details-regard ... ls-manager

[nighthawk]

Sounds like it’s a lot of the same stuff you heard about when he left here: https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/20 ... -everyone/

Mike Shildt was worn out and made the decision to leave his job as Padres manager in order to focus on his mental and physical well-being.
Mike Shildt had worn out many members of the Padres’ coaching and support staffs, as well as others around the organization.
Both things are true at the same time, and that’s what makes his decision to step away on Monday so complicated.

Nearly 20 sources — 12 of them who worked with Shildt on a daily basis during the season — have in recent months characterized Shildt as unyieldingly demanding of his coaching staff and the team’s support staff and as having a tendency to micromanage and possessing a quick temper that is easily triggered by questioning or feedback.

The issues that surfaced in San Diego were virtually identical to the issues that several league sources said led to Shildt’s abrupt dismissal in St. Louis following a 90-win season in 2021 and three playoff appearances in three seasons.

The Padres enlisted people internally to work with Shildt regarding his penchant to snap at colleagues and even superiors who he perceived were questioning him, according to multiple sources. The plan for the offseason was for there to be more discussions and work done regarding his interactions with staff and media.

Many in the organization spoke over the past several months of repeated angry outbursts and what were painted as unproductive and destructive communication tactics. Shildt often made employees feel silly for suggestions or what they deemed helpful information, but he then would sometimes complain that they had not prepared him for situations.

Anyway, there’s a few highlights. Sounds like he wants to get back in on the player development side. I’d take him here. Maybe that’s a role that is more better suited for his temperament. He lasted a long time here, so if he was willing to come back, and if Bloom wanted him, bring him back.

You are interrupting another charming Mo ax grinding with these facts. Shame on you.

[dugoutrex]

so ... basically fired like I said!