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dugoutrex wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 14:49 pm

Melville wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 18:14 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 17:48 pm

Shady wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 17:40 pm

Melville wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 17:27 pm #1 task.
Do as I have analyzed.

Melville, please rehash that.

He wanted to dump the light hitting Herrera who he said has no power and make sure the sub .700 ops power hitting Gorman is the middle of the order bat for years to come

Herrera has exceeded expectation - including yours.
He also has 5 weeks of "power" in 4 seasons.
Don't fall victim to Carpenter Syndrome just yet.
Fine to be optimistic.
But not wise to jump too soon to potentially faulty projections.

unicorn ?

No, Herrera has had 5 good "power weeks" this season - which is also his career total over 4 years.
Not a unicorn.

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:43 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 08:31 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 22:18 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 21:42 pm Bloom's to do list:

1. Disinfect all things John Mozeliak.
2. Fix the roster.
3. Decide what to do with Marmol and crew.
4. Convince fans to return.
5. Remember to feed Girsch.

#3 should be fire Marmol and crew. Other than that, you’re spot-on, Juan.

Correct. And you won’t be able to get 4 without doing 3

Exactly! This fan base has “Mozo & Oli Fatigue”. The DeWitts better pay attention and get rid of BOTH, otherwise they’ll lose even more revenue.

1) Reassign Oli
2) Hire a manager from outside the org.
3) Negotiate the waving of NTCs

1). NOPE. Fire Oli. If he was such a “great teacher”, why are most of the Cardinal “can’t miss” prospects so bad, and so absent of smart fundamentals? This organization needs a deep flush. Not only Oli, but Randy Flores and a lot of the coaches and talent evaluators. Most of them are really bad at their jobs.

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 18:45 pm

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:43 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 08:31 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 22:18 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 21:42 pm Bloom's to do list:

1. Disinfect all things John Mozeliak.
2. Fix the roster.
3. Decide what to do with Marmol and crew.
4. Convince fans to return.
5. Remember to feed Girsch.

#3 should be fire Marmol and crew. Other than that, you’re spot-on, Juan.

Correct. And you won’t be able to get 4 without doing 3

Exactly! This fan base has “Mozo & Oli Fatigue”. The DeWitts better pay attention and get rid of BOTH, otherwise they’ll lose even more revenue.

1) Reassign Oli
2) Hire a manager from outside the org.
3) Negotiate the waving of NTCs

1). NOPE. Fire Oli. If he was such a “great teacher”, why are most of the Cardinal “can’t miss” prospects so bad, and so absent of smart fundamentals? This organization needs a deep flush. Not only Oli, but Randy Flores and a lot of the coaches and talent evaluators. Most of them are really bad at their jobs.

I’m fine with firing Oli. I hope BDW lets him.

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 00:20 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 18:45 pm

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:43 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 08:31 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 22:18 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 21:42 pm Bloom's to do list:

1. Disinfect all things John Mozeliak.
2. Fix the roster.
3. Decide what to do with Marmol and crew.
4. Convince fans to return.
5. Remember to feed Girsch.

#3 should be fire Marmol and crew. Other than that, you’re spot-on, Juan.

Correct. And you won’t be able to get 4 without doing 3

Exactly! This fan base has “Mozo & Oli Fatigue”. The DeWitts better pay attention and get rid of BOTH, otherwise they’ll lose even more revenue.

1) Reassign Oli
2) Hire a manager from outside the org.
3) Negotiate the waving of NTCs

1). NOPE. Fire Oli. If he was such a “great teacher”, why are most of the Cardinal “can’t miss” prospects so bad, and so absent of smart fundamentals? This organization needs a deep flush. Not only Oli, but Randy Flores and a lot of the coaches and talent evaluators. Most of them are really bad at their jobs.

I’m fine with firing Oli. I hope BDW lets him.

Good point, BFM. DeWitt may not let him — and that would be tone deaf on DeWitt’s part. But I wouldn’t be surprised if we are stuck with Oily Oli for another season.

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 08:25 am

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 00:20 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 18:45 pm

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:43 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 08:31 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 22:18 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 21:42 pm Bloom's to do list:

1. Disinfect all things John Mozeliak.
2. Fix the roster.
3. Decide what to do with Marmol and crew.
4. Convince fans to return.
5. Remember to feed Girsch.

#3 should be fire Marmol and crew. Other than that, you’re spot-on, Juan.

Correct. And you won’t be able to get 4 without doing 3

Exactly! This fan base has “Mozo & Oli Fatigue”. The DeWitts better pay attention and get rid of BOTH, otherwise they’ll lose even more revenue.

1) Reassign Oli
2) Hire a manager from outside the org.
3) Negotiate the waving of NTCs

1). NOPE. Fire Oli. If he was such a “great teacher”, why are most of the Cardinal “can’t miss” prospects so bad, and so absent of smart fundamentals? This organization needs a deep flush. Not only Oli, but Randy Flores and a lot of the coaches and talent evaluators. Most of them are really bad at their jobs.

I’m fine with firing Oli. I hope BDW lets him.

Good point, BFM. DeWitt may not let him — and that would be tone deaf on DeWitt’s part. But I wouldn’t be surprised if we are stuck with Oily Oli for another season.

IMO that WOULD be tone deaf on DeWitt's part.
I don't think DeWitt cares.
A$$e$ in the seats is all he cares about.
Guess he doesn't know that people come out to see a good product.

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 08:25 am

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 00:20 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 18:45 pm

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:43 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 08:31 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 22:18 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 21:42 pm Bloom's to do list:

1. Disinfect all things John Mozeliak.
2. Fix the roster.
3. Decide what to do with Marmol and crew.
4. Convince fans to return.
5. Remember to feed Girsch.

#3 should be fire Marmol and crew. Other than that, you’re spot-on, Juan.

Correct. And you won’t be able to get 4 without doing 3

Exactly! This fan base has “Mozo & Oli Fatigue”. The DeWitts better pay attention and get rid of BOTH, otherwise they’ll lose even more revenue.

1) Reassign Oli
2) Hire a manager from outside the org.
3) Negotiate the waving of NTCs

1). NOPE. Fire Oli. If he was such a “great teacher”, why are most of the Cardinal “can’t miss” prospects so bad, and so absent of smart fundamentals? This organization needs a deep flush. Not only Oli, but Randy Flores and a lot of the coaches and talent evaluators. Most of them are really bad at their jobs.

I’m fine with firing Oli. I hope BDW lets him.

Good point, BFM. DeWitt may not let him — and that would be tone deaf on DeWitt’s part. But I wouldn’t be surprised if we are stuck with Oily Oli for another season.

DeWitt doesn't care about the fans anymore. I question if he even cares about the StL Cardinals history or stature. He, his son and Mozeliak seem more interested in pissing off the fans than making the right decisions.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 17:48 pm

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 08:25 am

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 00:20 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 18:45 pm

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:43 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 08:31 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 22:18 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 21:42 pm Bloom's to do list:

1. Disinfect all things John Mozeliak.
2. Fix the roster.
3. Decide what to do with Marmol and crew.
4. Convince fans to return.
5. Remember to feed Girsch.

#3 should be fire Marmol and crew. Other than that, you’re spot-on, Juan.

Correct. And you won’t be able to get 4 without doing 3

Exactly! This fan base has “Mozo & Oli Fatigue”. The DeWitts better pay attention and get rid of BOTH, otherwise they’ll lose even more revenue.

1) Reassign Oli
2) Hire a manager from outside the org.
3) Negotiate the waving of NTCs

1). NOPE. Fire Oli. If he was such a “great teacher”, why are most of the Cardinal “can’t miss” prospects so bad, and so absent of smart fundamentals? This organization needs a deep flush. Not only Oli, but Randy Flores and a lot of the coaches and talent evaluators. Most of them are really bad at their jobs.

I’m fine with firing Oli. I hope BDW lets him.

Good point, BFM. DeWitt may not let him — and that would be tone deaf on DeWitt’s part. But I wouldn’t be surprised if we are stuck with Oily Oli for another season.

DeWitt doesn't care about the fans anymore. I question if he even cares about the StL Cardinals history or stature. He, his son and Mozeliak seem more interested in pissing off the fans than making the right decisions.

TOXIC CULTURE
The Cardinals are not an MLB team seeking to contend.
They are not an MLB team with a marketing department.
They are a marketing company with a small baseball department.

Melville wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 19:08 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 17:48 pm

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 08:25 am

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 00:20 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 18:45 pm

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:43 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 08:31 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 22:18 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 21:42 pm Bloom's to do list:

1. Disinfect all things John Mozeliak.
2. Fix the roster.
3. Decide what to do with Marmol and crew.
4. Convince fans to return.
5. Remember to feed Girsch.

#3 should be fire Marmol and crew. Other than that, you’re spot-on, Juan.

Correct. And you won’t be able to get 4 without doing 3

Exactly! This fan base has “Mozo & Oli Fatigue”. The DeWitts better pay attention and get rid of BOTH, otherwise they’ll lose even more revenue.

1) Reassign Oli
2) Hire a manager from outside the org.
3) Negotiate the waving of NTCs

1). NOPE. Fire Oli. If he was such a “great teacher”, why are most of the Cardinal “can’t miss” prospects so bad, and so absent of smart fundamentals? This organization needs a deep flush. Not only Oli, but Randy Flores and a lot of the coaches and talent evaluators. Most of them are really bad at their jobs.

I’m fine with firing Oli. I hope BDW lets him.

Good point, BFM. DeWitt may not let him — and that would be tone deaf on DeWitt’s part. But I wouldn’t be surprised if we are stuck with Oily Oli for another season.

DeWitt doesn't care about the fans anymore. I question if he even cares about the StL Cardinals history or stature. He, his son and Mozeliak seem more interested in pissing off the fans than making the right decisions.

TOXIC CULTURE
The Cardinals are not an MLB team seeking to contend.
They are not an MLB team with a marketing department.
They are a marketing company with a small baseball department.

If they’re a marketing company shouldn’t they have had fans in the seats this season?

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 19:15 pm

Melville wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 19:08 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 17:48 pm

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 08:25 am

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 00:20 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 18:45 pm

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:43 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 08:31 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 22:18 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 21:42 pm Bloom's to do list:

1. Disinfect all things John Mozeliak.
2. Fix the roster.
3. Decide what to do with Marmol and crew.
4. Convince fans to return.
5. Remember to feed Girsch.

#3 should be fire Marmol and crew. Other than that, you’re spot-on, Juan.

Correct. And you won’t be able to get 4 without doing 3

Exactly! This fan base has “Mozo & Oli Fatigue”. The DeWitts better pay attention and get rid of BOTH, otherwise they’ll lose even more revenue.

1) Reassign Oli
2) Hire a manager from outside the org.
3) Negotiate the waving of NTCs

1). NOPE. Fire Oli. If he was such a “great teacher”, why are most of the Cardinal “can’t miss” prospects so bad, and so absent of smart fundamentals? This organization needs a deep flush. Not only Oli, but Randy Flores and a lot of the coaches and talent evaluators. Most of them are really bad at their jobs.

I’m fine with firing Oli. I hope BDW lets him.

Good point, BFM. DeWitt may not let him — and that would be tone deaf on DeWitt’s part. But I wouldn’t be surprised if we are stuck with Oily Oli for another season.

DeWitt doesn't care about the fans anymore. I question if he even cares about the StL Cardinals history or stature. He, his son and Mozeliak seem more interested in pissing off the fans than making the right decisions.

TOXIC CULTURE
The Cardinals are not an MLB team seeking to contend.
They are not an MLB team with a marketing department.
They are a marketing company with a small baseball department.

If they’re a marketing company shouldn’t they have had fans in the seats this season?

The seats are empty because fans have finally grasped that which I was first and best to understand and explain several years ago:
They Cardinals are a large marketing company with a small baseball department.
It took a while, but that which I analyzed with perfection long ago is now currently widely realized.
Which is why I have long recommended:
Keep reading.
Keep learning.

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 18:45 pm

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:43 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 08:31 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 22:18 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 21:42 pm Bloom's to do list:

1. Disinfect all things John Mozeliak.
2. Fix the roster.
3. Decide what to do with Marmol and crew.
4. Convince fans to return.
5. Remember to feed Girsch.

#3 should be fire Marmol and crew. Other than that, you’re spot-on, Juan.

Correct. And you won’t be able to get 4 without doing 3

Exactly! This fan base has “Mozo & Oli Fatigue”. The DeWitts better pay attention and get rid of BOTH, otherwise they’ll lose even more revenue.

1) Reassign Oli
2) Hire a manager from outside the org.
3) Negotiate the waving of NTCs

1). NOPE. Fire Oli. If he was such a “great teacher”, why are most of the Cardinal “can’t miss” prospects so bad, and so absent of smart fundamentals? This organization needs a deep flush. Not only Oli, but Randy Flores and a lot of the coaches and talent evaluators. Most of them are really bad at their jobs.

Amen

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 22:18 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 21:42 pm Bloom's to do list:

1. Disinfect all things John Mozeliak.
2. Fix the roster.
3. Decide what to do with Marmol and crew.
4. Convince fans to return.
5. Remember to feed Girsch.

#3 should be fire Marmol and crew. Other than that, you’re spot-on, Juan.

There's some possibility that he stays.
In that event would stronger personalities help in the dugout?
Varitek and a pitching coach that understands pitch sequencing.
Yadi was as good as any with that so maybe him or Varitek.

"remember to feed Girsch"- classic.

Find short term pitchers.

Either a Kyle Gibson or a take a chance on a struggling pitcher to bounce back.

Maybe Quintana for starters.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 17:48 pm

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 08:25 am

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 00:20 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 18:45 pm

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:43 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 09:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 08:31 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 22:18 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 21:42 pm Bloom's to do list:

1. Disinfect all things John Mozeliak.
2. Fix the roster.
3. Decide what to do with Marmol and crew.
4. Convince fans to return.
5. Remember to feed Girsch.

#3 should be fire Marmol and crew. Other than that, you’re spot-on, Juan.

Correct. And you won’t be able to get 4 without doing 3

Exactly! This fan base has “Mozo & Oli Fatigue”. The DeWitts better pay attention and get rid of BOTH, otherwise they’ll lose even more revenue.

1) Reassign Oli
2) Hire a manager from outside the org.
3) Negotiate the waving of NTCs

1). NOPE. Fire Oli. If he was such a “great teacher”, why are most of the Cardinal “can’t miss” prospects so bad, and so absent of smart fundamentals? This organization needs a deep flush. Not only Oli, but Randy Flores and a lot of the coaches and talent evaluators. Most of them are really bad at their jobs.

I’m fine with firing Oli. I hope BDW lets him.

Good point, BFM. DeWitt may not let him — and that would be tone deaf on DeWitt’s part. But I wouldn’t be surprised if we are stuck with Oily Oli for another season.

DeWitt doesn't care about the fans anymore. I question if he even cares about the StL Cardinals history or stature. He, his son and Mozeliak seem more interested in pissing off the fans than making the right decisions.

So true. Maybe he’s doing on purpose. I can think of another leader who doesn’t care about who he’s in charge of. Uh oh. And they are probably best buddies.