Group A and Group B lines at camp today

[Younghopp1991]

Sorry if this has been covered. Just went on lunch break and heard snuggy went down in practice. Was down close to 4-5 min. Got off on his own. Waiting on uodate

not the best of updates. if this is something significant then Carbo might have just gotten a 9 game trial

I do have to say, i am NO hockey wizz. There is plenty about the organization i an not privy of. But carbs is the walking definition of “leave nothing to chance” the guy has left it all on the ice. I am very excited to have this guy. He is a guy that says all of the right things to the media, but you know he means it. He wants to be the best player in the NHL. Even if he is not, you cant teach that mentality. Thats my rant

[dhsux]

Report on radio is snugs not serious and day today

[SameOldBlues]

Sorry if this has been covered. Just went on lunch break and heard snuggy went down in practice. Was down close to 4-5 min. Got off on his own. Waiting on uodate

They just said a little bit ago that anything serious has been ruled out and he’ll be fine.

[SameOldBlues]

Report on radio is snugs not serious and day today

Beat ne to it.

[Younghopp1991]

Report on radio is snugs not serious and day today

Beat ne to it.

Thanks guys. Glad its not too serious

[clemonsonroots]

I called these lines well before camp:
Buchnevich Thomas Snuggerud
Holloway Suter Kyrou
Neighbors Schenn Carbeneau
Toropchenko Bjustad Walker
Joseph Sunqvist

Looking more and more likely. That third line will be a murder line. If Carbs isn't producing after 9 games, he can still go back to juniors. try to deal texier and if no takers waive to send to minors.

[Harry York 37]

Report on radio is snugs not serious and day today

Beat ne to it.

Thanks guys. Glad its not too serious

Carbo's window did just slide open a tad bit more- it is easier to skate through now
Snuggy will be back soon, but Carbo will surely get more touches in his absence.
Carbo is a bulldog of an 18-year-old.

[WilliamWestcliffe]

Group A:
Buchnevich-Thomas-Snuggerud
Texier-Bjugstad-Carbonneau
Toropchenko-Sundqvist-Walker
Kaskimaki-Alexandrov-Wagner
Robertsson-McGing-Stancl

Fowler-Parayko
Lindstein-Kessel
Loof-Jiricek
Burns-Gaudet/Johannesson

Binnington
Hofer



Group B:
Holloway-Suter-Kyrou
Neighbours-Schenn-Joseph
Lucic-Dvorsky-Stenberg
Pekarcik-Luff-Peterson
Bitten-Stange-Susuev

Broberg-Faulk
Tucker-Mailloux
Schueneman-Skinner
Buchinger-Kehrer

Ellis
Zherenko
Cranley


My "reading WAY too much into it" takeaways on Monty's thought process:
-Thomas/Buch/Snuggs is the incumbent first line (no surprises there)
-Sunny/Walks/Torpo is the fourth line, as of now
-Bjugstad getting a look as 3rd line C, Tex and Carb getting a chance to show some 3rd line potential. Maybe Carbo under consideration for a 9 game look
-Jiricek might be under consideration to play in the AHL this year instead of going back to juniors
-Suter getting a look at that 2nd line center instead of Schenn
-Joseph getting rewarded for a strong camp so far
-Lucic getting stuck with a couple players likely destined for the AHL and remains a huge long shot until further notice
-No real surprises in D pairings

Yep. I can't help but assume then that this is the starting lineup, pending someone in the "competing" line making a statement between now and opener.

I'm guessing they'll keep Carbo up for his cup of coffee and then send him back unless he shows out. Surprised to see Texier and Bjugstad (maybe Bjugstad mostly) on the fringe. I assume Texier will be moved and Bjugstad plays the press box rotate depth role. Same with Kessel; probably hangs around as depth.

Obviously surprised after all the Lucic hype how bad he's looked so far. Maybe more concerning though is that they seem to be giving up on Dvorsky already. Dvo is a solid player, but he does not look like an NHL center, which makes him a solid scoring winger. As a scoring winger though, I'm not sure he breaks the top 6 on this roster any time soon...and with how well Carbo has looked, maybe not even the top 9.

STARTING
Buchnevich-Thomas-Snuggerud
Holloway-Suter-Kyrou
Neighbours-Schenn-Joseph
Toropchenko-Sundqvist-Walker

Fowler-Parayko
Broberg-Faulk
Tucker-Mailloux

COMPETING
Texier-Bjugstad-Carbonneau

Lindstein-Kessel

OUT
Kaskimaki-Alexandrov-Wagner
Robertsson-McGing-Stancl
Lucic-Dvorsky-Stenberg
Pekarcik-Luff-Peterson
Bitten-Stange-Susuev

Loof-Jiricek
Burns-Gaudet/Johannesson
Schueneman-Skinner
Buchinger-Kehrer

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

Thanks to everyone reporting what they see at camp. Annually for those of us who follow closely but can't be there to witness camp, we depend on tidbits at this time of year

It is sort of looking like two of three spots to Joseph, Texier, Carbonneau, with Carbo on the outside looking in but getting his chances to claim it earlier than everyone expects. Worst case is he goes back to Boyband-Bye-Bye-Bye with a feeling like he is on the cusp of actually making the NHL. At the end of the day I believe the Snuggy-Mailloux rookie duo integration will mean they don't want two rookie RWs at once integrating. Everyone knows I am riding this Carbo train (except my current metabolism) but I just can't bring myself to believe it's going to happen.

Carbo has flashed that he has huge upside. Gonna have to round out his complete game is all we will be waiting on. OK. Just a couple other thoughts ... either Bjugstad or Sunny starts as your 4th line center (I am leaning Bjugstad currently from what I am observing) but the other one could rotate into that 3W role depending on the matchup.
One observation from today's practice. In a 3 on 2 forechecking drill from the top of the circle to the endboards (so tight space) once Dvorsky got the puck on one rep, he protected the puck at an NHL level and created a scoring chance for himself. A few teammates acknowledged it (shin taps) because it stood out. He continues to work on faceoffs post practice. One other thing is that yesterday in a one on zero drill picking up the puck at the faceoff dot he scored 3 times in a row ... he was the only player who did that. He has slick mits in close ... finisher.

[WilliamWestcliffe]

Thanks to everyone reporting what they see at camp. Annually for those of us who follow closely but can't be there to witness camp, we depend on tidbits at this time of year

It is sort of looking like two of three spots to Joseph, Texier, Carbonneau, with Carbo on the outside looking in but getting his chances to claim it earlier than everyone expects. Worst case is he goes back to Boyband-Bye-Bye-Bye with a feeling like he is on the cusp of actually making the NHL. At the end of the day I believe the Snuggy-Mailloux rookie duo integration will mean they don't want two rookie RWs at once integrating. Everyone knows I am riding this Carbo train (except my current metabolism) but I just can't bring myself to believe it's going to happen.

Carbo has flashed that he has huge upside. Gonna have to round out his complete game is all we will be waiting on. OK. Just a couple other thoughts ... either Bjugstad or Sunny starts as your 4th line center (I am leaning Bjugstad currently from what I am observing) but the other one could rotate into that 3W role depending on the matchup.
One observation from today's practice. In a 3 on 2 forechecking drill from the top of the circle to the endboards (so tight space) once Dvorsky got the puck on one rep, he protected the puck at an NHL level and created a scoring chance for himself. A few teammates acknowledged it (shin taps) because it stood out. He continues to work on faceoffs post practice. One other thing is that yesterday in a one on zero drill picking up the puck at the faceoff dot he scored 3 times in a row ... he was the only player who did that. He has slick mits in close ... finisher.

He's an exceptional goal scorer. The problem quickly becomes though what if he's a subpar NHL center? Stenberg is your 3rd line center of the future (maybe as soon as 2027). Is Carbo a capable 2nd line center? I'm not seeing it so far. So if he now becomes an NHL winger, where do you stack him with the current depth?

1. Buchnevich
2. Halloway
3. Kyrou
4. Snuggerud
5. Neighbors
6. Carbo
7. Dvo?

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

I think Stenberg and Carbo both stay at wing. It's just an opinion based on the way I think the Blues are thinking and on how I see the game. With the Suter and Bjugstad adds, the Blues can be very patient with Dvorsky's development as a center. He was an all star AHL center at 19yo. They will give him every opportunity to grow into it (improve his speed just enough).

[Harry S Deals]

Thanks to everyone reporting what they see at camp. Annually for those of us who follow closely but can't be there to witness camp, we depend on tidbits at this time of year

It is sort of looking like two of three spots to Joseph, Texier, Carbonneau, with Carbo on the outside looking in but getting his chances to claim it earlier than everyone expects. Worst case is he goes back to Boyband-Bye-Bye-Bye with a feeling like he is on the cusp of actually making the NHL. At the end of the day I believe the Snuggy-Mailloux rookie duo integration will mean they don't want two rookie RWs at once integrating. Everyone knows I am riding this Carbo train (except my current metabolism) but I just can't bring myself to believe it's going to happen.

Carbo has flashed that he has huge upside. Gonna have to round out his complete game is all we will be waiting on. OK. Just a couple other thoughts ... either Bjugstad or Sunny starts as your 4th line center (I am leaning Bjugstad currently from what I am observing) but the other one could rotate into that 3W role depending on the matchup.
One observation from today's practice. In a 3 on 2 forechecking drill from the top of the circle to the endboards (so tight space) once Dvorsky got the puck on one rep, he protected the puck at an NHL level and created a scoring chance for himself. A few teammates acknowledged it (shin taps) because it stood out. He continues to work on faceoffs post practice. One other thing is that yesterday in a one on zero drill picking up the puck at the faceoff dot he scored 3 times in a row ... he was the only player who did that. He has slick mits in close ... finisher.

He's an exceptional goal scorer. The problem quickly becomes though what if he's a subpar NHL center? Stenberg is your 3rd line center of the future (maybe as soon as 2027). Is Carbo a capable 2nd line center? I'm not seeing it so far. So if he now becomes an NHL winger, where do you stack him with the current depth?

1. Buchnevich
2. Halloway
3. Kyrou
4. Snuggerud
5. Neighbors
6. Carbo
7. Dvo?

I think Carbonneau is a RW not a center and he will be the 3rd RW behind Snuggerud and Kyrou either very soon, very soon in a platoon role or in a year or two.
LW will be Buch/Holloway/Neighbours
RW Snuggerud/Kyrou/Joseph Texier/Carbonneau

as far the the Top 9 go.

[kimzey59]

Thanks to everyone reporting what they see at camp. Annually for those of us who follow closely but can't be there to witness camp, we depend on tidbits at this time of year

It is sort of looking like two of three spots to Joseph, Texier, Carbonneau, with Carbo on the outside looking in but getting his chances to claim it earlier than everyone expects. Worst case is he goes back to Boyband-Bye-Bye-Bye with a feeling like he is on the cusp of actually making the NHL. At the end of the day I believe the Snuggy-Mailloux rookie duo integration will mean they don't want two rookie RWs at once integrating. Everyone knows I am riding this Carbo train (except my current metabolism) but I just can't bring myself to believe it's going to happen.

Carbo has flashed that he has huge upside. Gonna have to round out his complete game is all we will be waiting on. OK. Just a couple other thoughts ... either Bjugstad or Sunny starts as your 4th line center (I am leaning Bjugstad currently from what I am observing) but the other one could rotate into that 3W role depending on the matchup.
One observation from today's practice. In a 3 on 2 forechecking drill from the top of the circle to the endboards (so tight space) once Dvorsky got the puck on one rep, he protected the puck at an NHL level and created a scoring chance for himself. A few teammates acknowledged it (shin taps) because it stood out. He continues to work on faceoffs post practice. One other thing is that yesterday in a one on zero drill picking up the puck at the faceoff dot he scored 3 times in a row ... he was the only player who did that. He has slick mits in close ... finisher.

He's an exceptional goal scorer. The problem quickly becomes though what if he's a subpar NHL center? Stenberg is your 3rd line center of the future (maybe as soon as 2027). Is Carbo a capable 2nd line center? I'm not seeing it so far. So if he now becomes an NHL winger, where do you stack him with the current depth?

1. Buchnevich
2. Halloway
3. Kyrou
4. Snuggerud
5. Neighbors
6. Carbo
7. Dvo?

Stenberg hasn’t played center in 4 years.
He’s a LW.

Eventually, he’ll push either Buch or Jake out.


Carbonneau is a RW and he will eventually give us a good 3 layered attack on the right side.

[dhsux]

I think Stenberg and Carbo both stay at wing. It's just an opinion based on the way I think the Blues are thinking and on how I see the game. With the Suter and Bjugstad adds, the Blues can be very patient with Dvorsky's development as a center. He was an all star AHL center at 19yo. They will give him every opportunity to grow into it (improve his speed just enough).

Hopefully Standbrook can work his magic to get his skating up a notch.

[seattleblue]

It is wild to me that we keep writing off Dvorsky and interpreting all tea leaves as the Blues writing off Dvorsky.

Guys, I don't know how many times I need to say this but Dvorsky is fully on track. And he's going to be a center. And he's going to get himself up in the conversation with Thomas as who's the best center on the Blues, in a relatively short time for someone who is currently age 20.

Carbo may make the team but they play different positions. They are on two separate measurements. One of the silver linings to a prospect not knowing where his limits are is sometimes, given an opportunity to push it to the hilt, they succeed and make a leap faster than they would have otherwise. It's rare but it happens with certain players and that could indeed be the case with Carbo. I coveted him before the draft because I saw this rare thing in his play when I focused on it. Dvorsky is a whole separate thing and he is definitively our top prospect. What is happening is the sculpture, which is going to be sweet, is 90% finished. So he looks unfinished, which he is. But he has so many tools and skills. Don't make the mistake of overlooking what Dvorsky is going to be.

[WilliamWestcliffe]

Thanks to everyone reporting what they see at camp. Annually for those of us who follow closely but can't be there to witness camp, we depend on tidbits at this time of year

It is sort of looking like two of three spots to Joseph, Texier, Carbonneau, with Carbo on the outside looking in but getting his chances to claim it earlier than everyone expects. Worst case is he goes back to Boyband-Bye-Bye-Bye with a feeling like he is on the cusp of actually making the NHL. At the end of the day I believe the Snuggy-Mailloux rookie duo integration will mean they don't want two rookie RWs at once integrating. Everyone knows I am riding this Carbo train (except my current metabolism) but I just can't bring myself to believe it's going to happen.

Carbo has flashed that he has huge upside. Gonna have to round out his complete game is all we will be waiting on. OK. Just a couple other thoughts ... either Bjugstad or Sunny starts as your 4th line center (I am leaning Bjugstad currently from what I am observing) but the other one could rotate into that 3W role depending on the matchup.
One observation from today's practice. In a 3 on 2 forechecking drill from the top of the circle to the endboards (so tight space) once Dvorsky got the puck on one rep, he protected the puck at an NHL level and created a scoring chance for himself. A few teammates acknowledged it (shin taps) because it stood out. He continues to work on faceoffs post practice. One other thing is that yesterday in a one on zero drill picking up the puck at the faceoff dot he scored 3 times in a row ... he was the only player who did that. He has slick mits in close ... finisher.

He's an exceptional goal scorer. The problem quickly becomes though what if he's a subpar NHL center? Stenberg is your 3rd line center of the future (maybe as soon as 2027). Is Carbo a capable 2nd line center? I'm not seeing it so far. So if he now becomes an NHL winger, where do you stack him with the current depth?

1. Buchnevich
2. Halloway
3. Kyrou
4. Snuggerud
5. Neighbors
6. Carbo
7. Dvo?

Stenberg hasn’t played center in 4 years.
He’s a LW.

Eventually, he’ll push either Buch or Jake out.


Carbonneau is a RW and he will eventually give us a good 3 layered attack on the right side.

Yes, apologies. I typed Carbo when I meant Dvo.

EDITED: "Is Dvo a capable 2nd line center? I'm not seeing it so far. So if he now becomes an NHL winger, where do you stack him with the current depth?"

The point I'm making (and asking) is that I don't see Dvo as a top 6 NHL center from what I've seen. Maybe he gets there, but if he doesn't, do you play him as 3rd line center? That doesn't seem like a good fit. So now, if we're saying he projects as a scoring winger in the NHL, where do you fit him? Does anyone see a scenario where he supplants Snuggerud, Kyrou or Carbo on the RW? I don't and that's my concern.