I’m sorry you want to turn this into some alpha male thing. It’s nothing of the sort. You want to reward that type of behavior feel free.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:53 pmIt’s a baseball, not the last bit of food for a starving kid. The dad’s maturity and restraint were repaid in spades.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:45 pmSorry, but I’m not taking something from my kid that has made him happy because a spoiled adult throws a tantrum.Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:27 amReward the lunatic with a meaningless totem to satisfy them, and the prize is being rid of a lunatic… not unlike agreeing with Melville.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 09:49 amThis.Melville wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 08:40 amPartially agree.
But he did not handle it as well as he could have.
Yes, he was right to keep his composure and not get into an ugly confrontation.
No, he should not have surrendered the ball.
He missed an opportunity to show his son and his entire family how to stand strong when unjustly attacked.
He should have allowed the lunatic to rant and rave - and tell her the ball was the property of his son and that she should be embarrassed by her behavior.
Then, ignore her.
I taught my kids to be respectful and polite, but also to stand up for themselves and their family when appropriate.
Not everything has to be an exercise in measuring one’s manhood.
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Fair questions. The first thing I’m doing is putting myself between her and my family. The second thing is I’m not lifting a finger against her.blackinkbiz wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:03 pmWhat if the lunatic starts ranting and raving and in, what she believes to be validated, snatches the ball from your son's glove as she believes you did from her hands? Or worse, attempts to snatch the ball but fails and in the process, lays her hands on your son in a way that upsets him?Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:45 pmSorry, but I’m not taking something from my kid that has made him happy because a spoiled adult throws a tantrum.Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:27 amReward the lunatic with a meaningless totem to satisfy them, and the prize is being rid of a lunatic… not unlike agreeing with Melville.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 09:49 amThis.Melville wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 08:40 amPartially agree.
But he did not handle it as well as he could have.
Yes, he was right to keep his composure and not get into an ugly confrontation.
No, he should not have surrendered the ball.
He missed an opportunity to show his son and his entire family how to stand strong when unjustly attacked.
He should have allowed the lunatic to rant and rave - and tell her the ball was the property of his son and that she should be embarrassed by her behavior.
Then, ignore her.
I taught my kids to be respectful and polite, but also to stand up for themselves and their family when appropriate.
If you're ready to stand your ground no matter what over a crazed woman screaming in your face, your likely to escalate if you see that woman physically harm your son.
In all likelihood, the story ends with both you and the crazy woman spending your night at the local police station, instead of your son getting a host of free gifts personally handed to him by Harrison Bader, all because you wanted to stand up for a $2 dollar ball that didn't even exist 30 seconds before this absurd scenario began.
I'd much rather teach my son to choose his battles and stay cool in the face of a nutjob who's clearly out of line, especially when it's again, over a $2 baseball that didn't even exist moments before.
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If?? She was doxxed by early this morning. Her name and place of employment is all over the net. And the memes are coming in fast and furious. By now I'm pretty sure she wishes she would have let the kid keep his baseball.

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That’s exactly what it’s being turned into. “I’m not letting someone like that win.” “I’m gonna stand my ground.” “You want to reward that type of behavior, feel free.”Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:05 pmI’m sorry you want to turn this into some alpha male thing. It’s nothing of the sort. You want to reward that type of behavior feel free.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:53 pmIt’s a baseball, not the last bit of food for a starving kid. The dad’s maturity and restraint were repaid in spades.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:45 pmSorry, but I’m not taking something from my kid that has made him happy because a spoiled adult throws a tantrum.Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:27 amReward the lunatic with a meaningless totem to satisfy them, and the prize is being rid of a lunatic… not unlike agreeing with Melville.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 09:49 amThis.Melville wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 08:40 amPartially agree.
But he did not handle it as well as he could have.
Yes, he was right to keep his composure and not get into an ugly confrontation.
No, he should not have surrendered the ball.
He missed an opportunity to show his son and his entire family how to stand strong when unjustly attacked.
He should have allowed the lunatic to rant and rave - and tell her the ball was the property of his son and that she should be embarrassed by her behavior.
Then, ignore her.
I taught my kids to be respectful and polite, but also to stand up for themselves and their family when appropriate.
Not everything has to be an exercise in measuring one’s manhood.
It wasn’t the dad’s job to teach that woman a lesson. What goes around comes around and she’s learning that today. He taught his son a lesson in restraint and maturity. We should all be so fortunate.
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It’s hard to believe anyone would be silly enough to believe he didn’t do the right thing. The dad is hailed as a calm rational hero the woman comes across as an unhinged nut bag Karen who will be identified and the level of scorn she is About to receive is going to be epic and the boy received far more than just a baseball. It’s a win win for father and son and though she got the ball the woman lost and is going to continually losedesertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:00 pmExactly. But not to some of the “real men” around here.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:56 pm I can see why he did it and don’t fault him for it. I can also see if he chose not to do it and just told her to kick rocks. But it turns out the dad made by far the best choice he looks good for being the better person his son got instead of just a ball he got merchandise an autographed bat and got to meet a player in person. So yea dad made the best choice
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Yup.Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:10 pmIf?? She was doxxed by early this morning. Her name and place of employment is all over the net. And the memes are coming in fast and furious. By now I'm pretty sure she wishes she would have let the kid keep his baseball.![]()
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I can understand the people who think the dad should have put up more of a fight, but he was the one who was looking into her eyes, not you. If he saw true crazy there, then he 100% did the right thing.
The kid ended up with an even better gift that the baseball, and that woman is about get way more than is coming to her. I think the moral universe is in tact.
The kid ended up with an even better gift that the baseball, and that woman is about get way more than is coming to her. I think the moral universe is in tact.
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No. But as a dad I feel it’s my job to teach my kids lessons.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:13 pmThat’s exactly what it’s being turned into. “I’m not letting someone like that win.” “I’m gonna stand my ground.” “You want to reward that type of behavior, feel free.”Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:05 pmI’m sorry you want to turn this into some alpha male thing. It’s nothing of the sort. You want to reward that type of behavior feel free.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:53 pmIt’s a baseball, not the last bit of food for a starving kid. The dad’s maturity and restraint were repaid in spades.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:45 pmSorry, but I’m not taking something from my kid that has made him happy because a spoiled adult throws a tantrum.Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:27 amReward the lunatic with a meaningless totem to satisfy them, and the prize is being rid of a lunatic… not unlike agreeing with Melville.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 09:49 amThis.Melville wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 08:40 amPartially agree.
But he did not handle it as well as he could have.
Yes, he was right to keep his composure and not get into an ugly confrontation.
No, he should not have surrendered the ball.
He missed an opportunity to show his son and his entire family how to stand strong when unjustly attacked.
He should have allowed the lunatic to rant and rave - and tell her the ball was the property of his son and that she should be embarrassed by her behavior.
Then, ignore her.
I taught my kids to be respectful and polite, but also to stand up for themselves and their family when appropriate.
Not everything has to be an exercise in measuring one’s manhood.
It wasn’t the dad’s job to teach that woman a lesson. What goes around comes around and she’s learning that today. He taught his son a lesson in restraint and maturity. We should all be so fortunate.
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Yep. But again, the lesson is that restraint, maturity and self-control take you a lot farther in life.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:35 pmNo. But as a dad I feel it’s my job to teach my kids lessons.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:13 pmThat’s exactly what it’s being turned into. “I’m not letting someone like that win.” “I’m gonna stand my ground.” “You want to reward that type of behavior, feel free.”Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:05 pmI’m sorry you want to turn this into some alpha male thing. It’s nothing of the sort. You want to reward that type of behavior feel free.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:53 pmIt’s a baseball, not the last bit of food for a starving kid. The dad’s maturity and restraint were repaid in spades.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:45 pmSorry, but I’m not taking something from my kid that has made him happy because a spoiled adult throws a tantrum.Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:27 amReward the lunatic with a meaningless totem to satisfy them, and the prize is being rid of a lunatic… not unlike agreeing with Melville.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 09:49 amThis.Melville wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 08:40 amPartially agree.
But he did not handle it as well as he could have.
Yes, he was right to keep his composure and not get into an ugly confrontation.
No, he should not have surrendered the ball.
He missed an opportunity to show his son and his entire family how to stand strong when unjustly attacked.
He should have allowed the lunatic to rant and rave - and tell her the ball was the property of his son and that she should be embarrassed by her behavior.
Then, ignore her.
I taught my kids to be respectful and polite, but also to stand up for themselves and their family when appropriate.
Not everything has to be an exercise in measuring one’s manhood.
It wasn’t the dad’s job to teach that woman a lesson. What goes around comes around and she’s learning that today. He taught his son a lesson in restraint and maturity. We should all be so fortunate.
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All things you can demonstrate along with not giving into to people because they are behaving poorlydesertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:44 pmYep. But again, the lesson is that restraint, maturity and self-control take you a lot farther in life.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:35 pmNo. But as a dad I feel it’s my job to teach my kids lessons.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:13 pmThat’s exactly what it’s being turned into. “I’m not letting someone like that win.” “I’m gonna stand my ground.” “You want to reward that type of behavior, feel free.”Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:05 pmI’m sorry you want to turn this into some alpha male thing. It’s nothing of the sort. You want to reward that type of behavior feel free.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:53 pmIt’s a baseball, not the last bit of food for a starving kid. The dad’s maturity and restraint were repaid in spades.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:45 pmSorry, but I’m not taking something from my kid that has made him happy because a spoiled adult throws a tantrum.Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:27 amReward the lunatic with a meaningless totem to satisfy them, and the prize is being rid of a lunatic… not unlike agreeing with Melville.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 09:49 amThis.Melville wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 08:40 amPartially agree.
But he did not handle it as well as he could have.
Yes, he was right to keep his composure and not get into an ugly confrontation.
No, he should not have surrendered the ball.
He missed an opportunity to show his son and his entire family how to stand strong when unjustly attacked.
He should have allowed the lunatic to rant and rave - and tell her the ball was the property of his son and that she should be embarrassed by her behavior.
Then, ignore her.
I taught my kids to be respectful and polite, but also to stand up for themselves and their family when appropriate.
Not everything has to be an exercise in measuring one’s manhood.
It wasn’t the dad’s job to teach that woman a lesson. What goes around comes around and she’s learning that today. He taught his son a lesson in restraint and maturity. We should all be so fortunate.
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In a vacuum, I completely agree with you. The problem is it's a public arena, he had literally zero time to weigh options, and you never know how a crazy, unhinged person is going to react. Instead of a lesson, you could end up traumatizing your son because you refused to de-escalate a volatile situation.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:55 pmAll things you can demonstrate along with not giving into to people because they are behaving poorlydesertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:44 pmYep. But again, the lesson is that restraint, maturity and self-control take you a lot farther in life.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:35 pmNo. But as a dad I feel it’s my job to teach my kids lessons.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:13 pmThat’s exactly what it’s being turned into. “I’m not letting someone like that win.” “I’m gonna stand my ground.” “You want to reward that type of behavior, feel free.”Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:05 pmI’m sorry you want to turn this into some alpha male thing. It’s nothing of the sort. You want to reward that type of behavior feel free.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:53 pmIt’s a baseball, not the last bit of food for a starving kid. The dad’s maturity and restraint were repaid in spades.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:45 pmSorry, but I’m not taking something from my kid that has made him happy because a spoiled adult throws a tantrum.Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:27 amReward the lunatic with a meaningless totem to satisfy them, and the prize is being rid of a lunatic… not unlike agreeing with Melville.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 09:49 amThis.Melville wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 08:40 amPartially agree.
But he did not handle it as well as he could have.
Yes, he was right to keep his composure and not get into an ugly confrontation.
No, he should not have surrendered the ball.
He missed an opportunity to show his son and his entire family how to stand strong when unjustly attacked.
He should have allowed the lunatic to rant and rave - and tell her the ball was the property of his son and that she should be embarrassed by her behavior.
Then, ignore her.
I taught my kids to be respectful and polite, but also to stand up for themselves and their family when appropriate.
Not everything has to be an exercise in measuring one’s manhood.
It wasn’t the dad’s job to teach that woman a lesson. What goes around comes around and she’s learning that today. He taught his son a lesson in restraint and maturity. We should all be so fortunate.
Anyways, I see both sides, and I knew I should have never clicked on this d*mn story. hahaha
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Hah. Glad marlins and Bader did right by the kid.blackinkbiz wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 15:10 pmIn a vacuum, I completely agree with you. The problem is it's a public arena, he had literally zero time to weigh options, and you never know how a crazy, unhinged person is going to react. Instead of a lesson, you could end up traumatizing your son because you refused to de-escalate a volatile situation.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:55 pmAll things you can demonstrate along with not giving into to people because they are behaving poorlydesertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:44 pmYep. But again, the lesson is that restraint, maturity and self-control take you a lot farther in life.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:35 pmNo. But as a dad I feel it’s my job to teach my kids lessons.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:13 pmThat’s exactly what it’s being turned into. “I’m not letting someone like that win.” “I’m gonna stand my ground.” “You want to reward that type of behavior, feel free.”Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:05 pmI’m sorry you want to turn this into some alpha male thing. It’s nothing of the sort. You want to reward that type of behavior feel free.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:53 pmIt’s a baseball, not the last bit of food for a starving kid. The dad’s maturity and restraint were repaid in spades.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 13:45 pmSorry, but I’m not taking something from my kid that has made him happy because a spoiled adult throws a tantrum.Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:27 amReward the lunatic with a meaningless totem to satisfy them, and the prize is being rid of a lunatic… not unlike agreeing with Melville.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 09:49 amThis.Melville wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 08:40 amPartially agree.
But he did not handle it as well as he could have.
Yes, he was right to keep his composure and not get into an ugly confrontation.
No, he should not have surrendered the ball.
He missed an opportunity to show his son and his entire family how to stand strong when unjustly attacked.
He should have allowed the lunatic to rant and rave - and tell her the ball was the property of his son and that she should be embarrassed by her behavior.
Then, ignore her.
I taught my kids to be respectful and polite, but also to stand up for themselves and their family when appropriate.
Not everything has to be an exercise in measuring one’s manhood.
It wasn’t the dad’s job to teach that woman a lesson. What goes around comes around and she’s learning that today. He taught his son a lesson in restraint and maturity. We should all be so fortunate.
Anyways, I see both sides, and I knew I should have never clicked on this d*mn story. hahaha
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Ya but your kid ends up not meeting Harrison Bader and without 100x as many goodies. Doesn’t get his picture in the paper or all the cred from his classmates. Just a lousy ball his dad picked up from the ground, and a “lesson”. Proud moment for you though.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:55 pmAll things you can demonstrate along with not giving into to people because they are behaving poorlydesertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:44 pmYep. But again, the lesson is that restraint, maturity and self-control take you a lot farther in life.Absolut wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:35 pmNo. But as a dad I feel it’s my job to teach my kids lessons.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 14:13 pm That’s exactly what it’s being turned into. “I’m not letting someone like that win.” “I’m gonna stand my ground.” “You want to reward that type of behavior, feel free.”
It wasn’t the dad’s job to teach that woman a lesson. What goes around comes around and she’s learning that today. He taught his son a lesson in restraint and maturity. We should all be so fortunate.
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No. She put her hands on him first. He has the right to defend himself. He can't beat her but he can defend himself. Gender of instigator doesn't matter under the law.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 11:23 am“Well son, I got thrown out of the baseball game, arrested, doxxed on social media for hitting a woman, and will probably lose my job because of the unwanted attention I brought on myself, my family, and my employer. And you didn’t even get to keep the baseball. But I hope you learned a lesson about life.”
“Yeah. That my dad’s an idiot.”
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Correct.Bully4you wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 10:48 amShe starts pushing me and I escort her away from my family and turn her over to security.desertrat23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 10:45 amAnd then what? She isn’t going to stop. She starts pushing and shoving? He can’t and shouldn’t hit back, especially not in public. It’s a no-win situation for him. If he does what he did, the alpha-male keyboard warriors call him a [redacted]. If he escalates, it gets MUCH worse for him.
Not everything in life is an opportunity to show off your machismo. Sometimes the winning move is not to engage.
Not gonna let a person win under those circumstances.
Let her yell.
Then ignore her.
She wasn't going to go any further.