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dugoutrex wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:28 pm kinda how high em left the sox

Jatalk wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 18:02 pm

TopofthePerch wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:09 pm

Jatalk wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:27 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:12 pm Has our MO reached peak rock bottom for the STL. Cardinals?
I guess there is always a worse spot to be in……but after reaching the heights of MLB with all the accolades up and down the entire organization a decade ago….
From that lofty perch…..could it be possible for him to leave this team any less prospect less, Any less talent at ML level, Any less star power, Any less of a capable field management??
Any More capable of destroying night after night sellouts at Busch??
I would say he’s come as close to becoming the Pirates, Marlins, Nats as anyone could possibly do that in STL

And yet some want him to have a red jacket.

He absolutely should. He had a decade plus stretch where we were one of the best three teams in baseball. He has definitely worn out his welcome but not admitting that the club had a lot of success with him for a very long time is not being genuine. Sports is and always has been a what have you done for me lately business though.

Only question to ask: Did he leave the organization better than how he found it? It’s a BIG NO!

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:12 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:57 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:53 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:52 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:48 pm

82birds wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:45 pm

hockey jedi wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:14 pm IMO, it will be better as soon as he retires and is out of baseball decision making for the Cardinals.

+ 10,000,000

At least 90 or more wins in 3 out of the past 5 full seasons. Truly despicable. Goldfan’s on it.

No internal SP
No OF talent
No Catching Talent
Another year of selling at deadline
Less than 20k in Busch nightly
No stars
Obligatory 1 Allstar
With no real plan for this to improve
What am I and apparently many other on CT missing?
This is a hopeful future full of success you see??

Ummm what? I get the rest of it, but you don’t have to make up stuff to extend your point.

So Pages/Pozo are your C talent?? I suppose barely satisfactory if all other inferior spots are upgraded

You probably need to follow Crooks at Memphis and Bernal at Springfield, Goldfan. It might help you create more credibility in your posts about catcher.

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 18:05 pmi

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:41 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:12 pm Has our MO reached peak rock bottom for the STL. Cardinals?
I guess there is always a worse spot to be in……but after reaching the heights of MLB with all the accolades up and down the entire organization a decade ago….
From that lofty perch…..could it be possible for him to leave this team any less prospect less, Any less talent at ML level, Any less star power, Any less of a capable field management??
Any More capable of destroying night after night sellouts at Busch??
I would say he’s come as close to becoming the Pirates, Marlins, Nats as anyone could possibly do that in STL

Cards did just fine under Mo. Could be the Padres, or Mariners or Rays or Brewers. Never tasted that WS

The winner of three Executive of the Year awards, Mozeliak has overseen the Cardinals make playoff appearances in six years, win one World Series title, and two National League pennants.

They have had a winning record in all but one season (2023) since he was appointed general manager. The Cardinals' minor league farm system has received numerous accolades following the volume of prospects that have succeeded at the major league level, including Baseball America bestowing the franchise with the Organization of the Year Award in 2011 and 2013. Mozeliak is signed through the 2025 season.

Yes I referenced the glowing accolades of a decade ago……is that the issue?

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:41 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:12 pm Has our MO reached peak rock bottom for the STL. Cardinals?
I guess there is always a worse spot to be in……but after reaching the heights of MLB with all the accolades up and down the entire organization a decade ago….
From that lofty perch…..could it be possible for him to leave this team any less prospect less, Any less talent at ML level, Any less star power, Any less of a capable field management??
Any More capable of destroying night after night sellouts at Busch??
I would say he’s come as close to becoming the Pirates, Marlins, Nats as anyone could possibly do that in STL

Cards did just fine under Mo. Could be the Padres, or Mariners or Rays or Brewers. Never tasted that WS

The winner of three Executive of the Year awards, Mozeliak has overseen the Cardinals make playoff appearances in six years, win one World Series title, and two National League pennants.

They have had a winning record in all but one season (2023) since he was appointed general manager. The Cardinals' minor league farm system has received numerous accolades following the volume of prospects that have succeeded at the major league level, including Baseball America bestowing the franchise with the Organization of the Year Award in 2011 and 2013. Mozeliak is signed through the 2025 season.

blackinkbiz wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 18:16 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:41 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:12 pm Has our MO reached peak rock bottom for the STL. Cardinals?
I guess there is always a worse spot to be in……but after reaching the heights of MLB with all the accolades up and down the entire organization a decade ago….
From that lofty perch…..could it be possible for him to leave this team any less prospect less, Any less talent at ML level, Any less star power, Any less of a capable field management??
Any More capable of destroying night after night sellouts at Busch??
I would say he’s come as close to becoming the Pirates, Marlins, Nats as anyone could possibly do that in STL

Cards did just fine under Mo. Could be the Padres, or Mariners or Rays or Brewers. Never tasted that WS

The winner of three Executive of the Year awards, Mozeliak has overseen the Cardinals make playoff appearances in six years, win one World Series title, and two National League pennants.

They have had a winning record in all but one season (2023) since he was appointed general manager. The Cardinals' minor league farm system has received numerous accolades following the volume of prospects that have succeeded at the major league level, including Baseball America bestowing the franchise with the Organization of the Year Award in 2011 and 2013. Mozeliak is signed through the 2025 season.

This is like Hitler bragging in the bunker that he had conquered Europe. lol

blackinkbiz wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 18:16 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:41 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:12 pm Has our MO reached peak rock bottom for the STL. Cardinals?
I guess there is always a worse spot to be in……but after reaching the heights of MLB with all the accolades up and down the entire organization a decade ago….
From that lofty perch…..could it be possible for him to leave this team any less prospect less, Any less talent at ML level, Any less star power, Any less of a capable field management??
Any More capable of destroying night after night sellouts at Busch??
I would say he’s come as close to becoming the Pirates, Marlins, Nats as anyone could possibly do that in STL

Cards did just fine under Mo. Could be the Padres, or Mariners or Rays or Brewers. Never tasted that WS

The winner of three Executive of the Year awards, Mozeliak has overseen the Cardinals make playoff appearances in six years, win one World Series title, and two National League pennants.

They have had a winning record in all but one season (2023) since he was appointed general manager. The Cardinals' minor league farm system has received numerous accolades following the volume of prospects that have succeeded at the major league level, including Baseball America bestowing the franchise with the Organization of the Year Award in 2011 and 2013. Mozeliak is signed through the 2025 season.

This is like Hitler bragging in the bunker that he had conquered Europe. lol

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 18:15 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 18:05 pmi

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:41 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:12 pm Has our MO reached peak rock bottom for the STL. Cardinals?
I guess there is always a worse spot to be in……but after reaching the heights of MLB with all the accolades up and down the entire organization a decade ago….
From that lofty perch…..could it be possible for him to leave this team any less prospect less, Any less talent at ML level, Any less star power, Any less of a capable field management??
Any More capable of destroying night after night sellouts at Busch??
I would say he’s come as close to becoming the Pirates, Marlins, Nats as anyone could possibly do that in STL

Cards did just fine under Mo. Could be the Padres, or Mariners or Rays or Brewers. Never tasted that WS

The winner of three Executive of the Year awards, Mozeliak has overseen the Cardinals make playoff appearances in six years, win one World Series title, and two National League pennants.

They have had a winning record in all but one season (2023) since he was appointed general manager. The Cardinals' minor league farm system has received numerous accolades following the volume of prospects that have succeeded at the major league level, including Baseball America bestowing the franchise with the Organization of the Year Award in 2011 and 2013. Mozeliak is signed through the 2025 season.

Yes I referenced the glowing accolades of a decade ago……is that the issue?

I don't understand...I answered your question...

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 18:34 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 18:15 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 18:05 pmi

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:41 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:12 pm Has our MO reached peak rock bottom for the STL. Cardinals?
I guess there is always a worse spot to be in……but after reaching the heights of MLB with all the accolades up and down the entire organization a decade ago….
From that lofty perch…..could it be possible for him to leave this team any less prospect less, Any less talent at ML level, Any less star power, Any less of a capable field management??
Any More capable of destroying night after night sellouts at Busch??
I would say he’s come as close to becoming the Pirates, Marlins, Nats as anyone could possibly do that in STL

Cards did just fine under Mo. Could be the Padres, or Mariners or Rays or Brewers. Never tasted that WS

The winner of three Executive of the Year awards, Mozeliak has overseen the Cardinals make playoff appearances in six years, win one World Series title, and two National League pennants.

They have had a winning record in all but one season (2023) since he was appointed general manager. The Cardinals' minor league farm system has received numerous accolades following the volume of prospects that have succeeded at the major league level, including Baseball America bestowing the franchise with the Organization of the Year Award in 2011 and 2013. Mozeliak is signed through the 2025 season.

Yes I referenced the glowing accolades of a decade ago……is that the issue?

I don't understand...I answered your question...

I dont see one sentence pertaining to the current state of Cards Baseball 7/30/25. Apparently another year of selling talent because of no playoff hope. The talent failings have been listed. So what’s your answer
A Wikipedia cut and paste??

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:41 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:36 pm The little puppy dog 73 year old just can't stop stalking and trolling.

Answer the question
Could this org reasonably be in a worse position as Mo leaves at the end of the year???

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 18:40 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:41 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:36 pm The little puppy dog 73 year old just can't stop stalking and trolling.

Answer the question
Could this org reasonably be in a worse position as Mo leaves at the end of the year???

Sure. The Cards are 2 games above .500 while developing young players as they said they were going to do -
Winn, Herrera, Donovan, Burleson, Scott, Walker, Liberatore, McGreevey, etc.

craviduce wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:56 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:55 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:18 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:07 pm When I attended opening day, even though there was booing in the stadium for BDW and especially Mo, I didn’t hear any booing in the section where I was sitting - section 148. I posted that at the time. There’s a poster on here that continually references section 148. It’s his way of subtly trolling me as he stalks me around on here little a dog in heat. He tries to be subtle in his stalking and trolling because he’s been warned to put me on ignore and not stalk and troll by the powers to be.

you bait everyone you're currently battling with, Cranny. The Halo over your head dimmed out quite a while ago. Just Sayin'

I have no Halo, Craviduce. I'm just a normal average poster who doesn't like to be stalked and trolled every time I post.
You wouldn't like it either. Especially if it had gone on for over a year. Would you?

you said it was taken care of...then let it go. You can do that

Braund241 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:10 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:39 pm I hope Bloom is allowed to clean house this winter. It'll be an eventful and entertaining offseason. Much better than Mo's usual hibernation.

That would mean two things. The same owner that allowed Mo to drive this organization into an unbelievable mess and kept him in the job even this year. Mo should have been relieved of his duties 7-8 years ago. So I’m guessing MLB has moved beyond the current owners, they don’t seem to care about keeping up and competing at the major league level. The other would be that Bloom is an unbelievable capable magician and can make something of this current disaster even without ownership help. I doubt ownership is going to change their ways and get 8 or 9 quality free agents which is what it would require. I hope he is, but doubtful.