Wetherholt at second base tonite.

[Francis Park Thug]

Someone makes a valid and innocuous point that it is necessary for STL to take a look at Wetherholt at more than one position.
Personal attacks and insults ensue.
Why?
Weird responses- and revealing.

The people who jump on every posts that Shady posts are far worst than Shady's excessive and repetitive posting for sure. Why can't people just ignore stuff if they don't like it? Attacking someone for posting on a sports forum is pretty pathetic imo

Yep, the same 10 people responding, day after day, after day. They love to gang up. It makes them feel tough. We know their type.

[Shady]

It's finally dawning on the Cardinals that he should be getting defensive work at the position he will likely play for them soon.

Wetherholt had already played 2b 17 times this year. This ismt a sudden change.

And if you can play ss you can play 2b. Ss is just harder. And wetherholt will continue to get most his starts there in minors. Cuz even once he arrives, they can shift him to ss if winn is injured since there are no other great options. He also will be the backup ss too. Theres no reason to just have him only playing the easier position in minors. Its best he still has the ss skills. Playing ss well will make 2b easier.

generally agree with this, but no reason not to play both. the turn for the DP is way different for 2bmen, and having played both, I found the throw to 1st strange.. just a wierd body angle... but maybe I'm just wierd lol I did don the tools/gear of ignorance for several years

True its not exact same which is why he is getting a few starts there as well although majority have been at ss.

It would be a bad idea to get Wetherholt some starts at 3B for Memphis either.

They could to up his utility but its not necessarily needed if they dont want to overwhelm him learning positions and hitting. Gorman or donovan could always move to 3b while he stays at 2b since thats their original position and saggese or fermin or whoever is still here could also move to 3b so theres no real need. None of those guys are great at ss so it makes sense to keep his defense up as the backup ss

That should read, "It wouldn't be a bad idea to get Wetherholt some starts at 3B for Memphis either". Minus Arenado, 3B seems more "up in the air" than 2B. Of course, hitting is essential. And it's ideal to have some power at 3B. Arm strength/throwing ability may also be factors.

[Shady]

Someone makes a valid and innocuous point that it is necessary for STL to take a look at Wetherholt at more than one position.
Personal attacks and insults ensue.
Why?
Weird responses- and revealing.

The people who jump on every posts that Shady posts are far worst than Shady's excessive and repetitive posting for sure. Why can't people just ignore stuff if they don't like it? Attacking someone for posting on a sports forum is pretty pathetic imo

Yep, the same 10 people responding, day after day, after day. They love to gang up. It makes them feel tough. We know their type.

Bingo.

[Wattage]

It's finally dawning on the Cardinals that he should be getting defensive work at the position he will likely play for them soon.

Wetherholt had already played 2b 17 times this year. This ismt a sudden change.

And if you can play ss you can play 2b. Ss is just harder. And wetherholt will continue to get most his starts there in minors. Cuz even once he arrives, they can shift him to ss if winn is injured since there are no other great options. He also will be the backup ss too. Theres no reason to just have him only playing the easier position in minors. Its best he still has the ss skills. Playing ss well will make 2b easier.

generally agree with this, but no reason not to play both. the turn for the DP is way different for 2bmen, and having played both, I found the throw to 1st strange.. just a wierd body angle... but maybe I'm just wierd lol I did don the tools/gear of ignorance for several years

True its not exact same which is why he is getting a few starts there as well although majority have been at ss.

It would be a bad idea to get Wetherholt some starts at 3B for Memphis either.

They could to up his utility but its not necessarily needed if they dont want to overwhelm him learning positions and hitting. Gorman or donovan could always move to 3b while he stays at 2b since thats their original position and saggese or fermin or whoever is still here could also move to 3b so theres no real need. None of those guys are great at ss so it makes sense to keep his defense up as the backup ss

That should read, "It wouldn't be a bad idea to get Wetherholt some starts at 3B for Memphis either". Minus Arenado, 3B seems more "up in the air" than 2B. Of course, hitting is essential. And it's ideal to have some power at 3B. Arm strength/throwing ability may also be factors.

I mean theres never a need for wetherholt to play 3b though. They could always play wetherholt at 2b while shifting the other 2b to 3b.

Donovan originally was a 3b and outfielder in college. Gorman was a 3b. Theres not necessarily a need to get wetherholt to 3b cuz they could always shift the other 2b to 3b instead while wetherholt plays 2b. And doing so would probably be the correct defensive alignment too.

For example if hypothetically wetherholt is up here and arenado is injured. Donovan should shift to 3b while wetherholt plays 2b instead of wetherholt playing 3b. Same if gorman is to get a start. There never a need to put wetherholt at 3b while they play 2b. Ythe defense would always be better with wetherholt at 2b and donovan gorman or saggese at 3b instead of vice versa

[Shady]

It's finally dawning on the Cardinals that he should be getting defensive work at the position he will likely play for them soon.

Wetherholt had already played 2b 17 times this year. This ismt a sudden change.

And if you can play ss you can play 2b. Ss is just harder. And wetherholt will continue to get most his starts there in minors. Cuz even once he arrives, they can shift him to ss if winn is injured since there are no other great options. He also will be the backup ss too. Theres no reason to just have him only playing the easier position in minors. Its best he still has the ss skills. Playing ss well will make 2b easier.

generally agree with this, but no reason not to play both. the turn for the DP is way different for 2bmen, and having played both, I found the throw to 1st strange.. just a wierd body angle... but maybe I'm just wierd lol I did don the tools/gear of ignorance for several years

True its not exact same which is why he is getting a few starts there as well although majority have been at ss.

It would be a bad idea to get Wetherholt some starts at 3B for Memphis either.

They could to up his utility but its not necessarily needed if they dont want to overwhelm him learning positions and hitting. Gorman or donovan could always move to 3b while he stays at 2b since thats their original position and saggese or fermin or whoever is still here could also move to 3b so theres no real need. None of those guys are great at ss so it makes sense to keep his defense up as the backup ss

That should read, "It wouldn't be a bad idea to get Wetherholt some starts at 3B for Memphis either". Minus Arenado, 3B seems more "up in the air" than 2B. Of course, hitting is essential. And it's ideal to have some power at 3B. Arm strength/throwing ability may also be factors.

I mean theres never a need for wetherholt to play 3b though. They could always play wetherholt at 2b while shifting the other 2b to 3b.

Donovan originally was a 3b and outfielder in college. Gorman was a 3b. Theres not necessarily a need to get wetherholt to 3b cuz they could always shift the other 2b to 3b instead while wetherholt plays 2b. And doing so would probably be the correct defensive alignment too.

For example if hypothetically wetherholt is up here and arenado is injured. Donovan should shift to 3b while wetherholt plays 2b instead of wetherholt playing 3b. Same if gorman is to get a start. There never a need to put wetherholt at 3b while they play 2b. Ythe defense would always be better with wetherholt at 2b and donovan gorman or saggese at 3b instead of vice versa

I'm anticipating Saggese entering the equation. Then, who has the better arm needed at 3B? Gorman, Saggese or Wetherholt.

[Wattage]

It's finally dawning on the Cardinals that he should be getting defensive work at the position he will likely play for them soon.

Wetherholt had already played 2b 17 times this year. This ismt a sudden change.

And if you can play ss you can play 2b. Ss is just harder. And wetherholt will continue to get most his starts there in minors. Cuz even once he arrives, they can shift him to ss if winn is injured since there are no other great options. He also will be the backup ss too. Theres no reason to just have him only playing the easier position in minors. Its best he still has the ss skills. Playing ss well will make 2b easier.

generally agree with this, but no reason not to play both. the turn for the DP is way different for 2bmen, and having played both, I found the throw to 1st strange.. just a wierd body angle... but maybe I'm just wierd lol I did don the tools/gear of ignorance for several years

True its not exact same which is why he is getting a few starts there as well although majority have been at ss.

It would be a bad idea to get Wetherholt some starts at 3B for Memphis either.

They could to up his utility but its not necessarily needed if they dont want to overwhelm him learning positions and hitting. Gorman or donovan could always move to 3b while he stays at 2b since thats their original position and saggese or fermin or whoever is still here could also move to 3b so theres no real need. None of those guys are great at ss so it makes sense to keep his defense up as the backup ss

That should read, "It wouldn't be a bad idea to get Wetherholt some starts at 3B for Memphis either". Minus Arenado, 3B seems more "up in the air" than 2B. Of course, hitting is essential. And it's ideal to have some power at 3B. Arm strength/throwing ability may also be factors.

I mean theres never a need for wetherholt to play 3b though. They could always play wetherholt at 2b while shifting the other 2b to 3b.

Donovan originally was a 3b and outfielder in college. Gorman was a 3b. Theres not necessarily a need to get wetherholt to 3b cuz they could always shift the other 2b to 3b instead while wetherholt plays 2b. And doing so would probably be the correct defensive alignment too.

For example if hypothetically wetherholt is up here and arenado is injured. Donovan should shift to 3b while wetherholt plays 2b instead of wetherholt playing 3b. Same if gorman is to get a start. There never a need to put wetherholt at 3b while they play 2b. Ythe defense would always be better with wetherholt at 2b and donovan gorman or saggese at 3b instead of vice versa

I'm anticipating Saggese entering the equation. Then, who has the better arm needed at 3B? Gorman, Saggese or Wetherholt.

Regardlessnof arm for 3b, 2b gets more balls and wetherholt is the best 2b. The others gorman and saggese already know 3b so as wetherholt is being rushed up the minors, im fine with them limitjng him to 2b and ss since they can play everyone else at 3b leaving him to 2b. I think him at 2b is the best defensive alignment regardless of arm strength

[ElliottG]

It's finally dawning on the Cardinals that he should be getting defensive work at the position he will likely play for them soon.

Congratulations. Another stupid post. How many is that this week?

All of the ones he posts

What do you think his emotional age is? 4 or lower

If you think he has the emotional age of a 4 year old, then why are you continually mocking and ridiculing him? Is this how you would treat a child or a person with a disability? For goodness sakes, he’s a huge Cardinal Fan, is that such a sin? If you really think his posts are beneath you, THEN WHY CAN’T YOU JUST IGNORE HIM?

Yes. You post, you run the gauntlet of peoples opinions.

Are you new to the interwebs.

No, I’m fully aware that the web is full of pathetic losers like yourself. It’s sad that you justify your behavior because there are others who act as idiotic as yourself.

That's your opinion. I have mine. That's what you get on a public forum.

Can't deal, then find somewhere safer or where they share your same opinions so it's like talking to yourself. You'll feel much better.

It’s not an opinion when you acknowledge that what I said is true. You feel ridiculing and mocking of anyone is fine.

[CorneliusWolfe]

It's finally dawning on the Cardinals that he should be getting defensive work at the position he will likely play for them soon.

Congratulations. Another stupid post. How many is that this week?

All of the ones he posts

What do you think his emotional age is? 4 or lower

If you think he has the emotional age of a 4 year old, then why are you continually mocking and ridiculing him? Is this how you would treat a child or a person with a disability? For goodness sakes, he’s a huge Cardinal Fan, is that such a sin? If you really think his posts are beneath you, THEN WHY CAN’T YOU JUST IGNORE HIM?

Yes. You post, you run the gauntlet of peoples opinions.

Are you new to the interwebs.

No, I’m fully aware that the web is full of pathetic losers like yourself. It’s sad that you justify your behavior because there are others who act as idiotic as yourself.

That's your opinion. I have mine. That's what you get on a public forum.

Can't deal, then find somewhere safer or where they share your same opinions so it's like talking to yourself. You'll feel much better.

It’s not an opinion when you acknowledge that what I said is true. You feel ridiculing and mocking of anyone is fine.

Strange, the only inputs from “ElliotG” seem to be to defend Shady and bump his threads…almost as if he’s Shady himself??

[scoutyjones2]

It's finally dawning on the Cardinals that he should be getting defensive work at the position he will likely play for them soon.

Congratulations. Another stupid post. How many is that this week?

All of the ones he posts

What do you think his emotional age is? 4 or lower

If you think he has the emotional age of a 4 year old, then why are you continually mocking and ridiculing him? Is this how you would treat a child or a person with a disability? For goodness sakes, he’s a huge Cardinal Fan, is that such a sin? If you really think his posts are beneath you, THEN WHY CAN’T YOU JUST IGNORE HIM?

Yes. You post, you run the gauntlet of peoples opinions.

Are you new to the interwebs.

No, I’m fully aware that the web is full of pathetic losers like yourself. It’s sad that you justify your behavior because there are others who act as idiotic as yourself.

That's your opinion. I have mine. That's what you get on a public forum.

Can't deal, then find somewhere safer or where they share your same opinions so it's like talking to yourself. You'll feel much better.

It’s not an opinion when you acknowledge that what I said is true. You feel ridiculing and mocking of anyone is fine.

I call em as I see em

[riff raff]

It's finally dawning on the Cardinals that he should be getting defensive work at the position he will likely play for them soon.

Congratulations. Another stupid post. How many is that this week?

All of the ones he posts

What do you think his emotional age is? 4 or lower

If you think he has the emotional age of a 4 year old, then why are you continually mocking and ridiculing him? Is this how you would treat a child or a person with a disability? For goodness sakes, he’s a huge Cardinal Fan, is that such a sin? If you really think his posts are beneath you, THEN WHY CAN’T YOU JUST IGNORE HIM?

Yes. You post, you run the gauntlet of peoples opinions.

Are you new to the interwebs.

No, I’m fully aware that the web is full of pathetic losers like yourself. It’s sad that you justify your behavior because there are others who act as idiotic as yourself.

That's your opinion. I have mine. That's what you get on a public forum.

Can't deal, then find somewhere safer or where they share your same opinions so it's like talking to yourself. You'll feel much better.

It’s not an opinion when you acknowledge that what I said is true. You feel ridiculing and mocking of anyone is fine.

I call em as I see em

It's a dog eat dog world, Sammy, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear.
Norm!

[82birds]

he's back at shortstop tonight

[craviduce]

he's back at shortstop tonight

we're doomed

[Cusecards]

Just let the kid relax and play!
He’s hot with the bat. Make him comfortable.
If he can handle SS he can certainly handle 2B/3B.
Should we really be stressing over what position he plays next season?

[Boooyah]

Clicked on this thread hoping for actual baseball talk, not another middle school roast session on Shady. You don’t have to agree with the guy, but the constant pile-on every time he posts is getting old. If you’re more focused on mocking someone than discussing the team, maybe you’re the one wasting space here.

[ElliottG]

It's finally dawning on the Cardinals that he should be getting defensive work at the position he will likely play for them soon.

Congratulations. Another stupid post. How many is that this week?

All of the ones he posts

What do you think his emotional age is? 4 or lower

If you think he has the emotional age of a 4 year old, then why are you continually mocking and ridiculing him? Is this how you would treat a child or a person with a disability? For goodness sakes, he’s a huge Cardinal Fan, is that such a sin? If you really think his posts are beneath you, THEN WHY CAN’T YOU JUST IGNORE HIM?

Yes. You post, you run the gauntlet of peoples opinions.

Are you new to the interwebs.

No, I’m fully aware that the web is full of pathetic losers like yourself. It’s sad that you justify your behavior because there are others who act as idiotic as yourself.

That's your opinion. I have mine. That's what you get on a public forum.

Can't deal, then find somewhere safer or where they share your same opinions so it's like talking to yourself. You'll feel much better.

It’s not an opinion when you acknowledge that what I said is true. You feel ridiculing and mocking of anyone is fine.

Strange, the only inputs from “ElliotG” seem to be to defend Shady and bump his threads…almost as if he’s Shady himself??

So by your logic, then I should assume you are Scouty, right loser?

[CorneliusWolfe]

It's finally dawning on the Cardinals that he should be getting defensive work at the position he will likely play for them soon.

Congratulations. Another stupid post. How many is that this week?

All of the ones he posts

What do you think his emotional age is? 4 or lower

If you think he has the emotional age of a 4 year old, then why are you continually mocking and ridiculing him? Is this how you would treat a child or a person with a disability? For goodness sakes, he’s a huge Cardinal Fan, is that such a sin? If you really think his posts are beneath you, THEN WHY CAN’T YOU JUST IGNORE HIM?

Yes. You post, you run the gauntlet of peoples opinions.

Are you new to the interwebs.

No, I’m fully aware that the web is full of pathetic losers like yourself. It’s sad that you justify your behavior because there are others who act as idiotic as yourself.

That's your opinion. I have mine. That's what you get on a public forum.

Can't deal, then find somewhere safer or where they share your same opinions so it's like talking to yourself. You'll feel much better.

It’s not an opinion when you acknowledge that what I said is true. You feel ridiculing and mocking of anyone is fine.

Strange, the only inputs from “ElliotG” seem to be to defend Shady and bump his threads…almost as if he’s Shady himself??

So by your logic, then I should assume you are Scouty, right loser?

(bleep) off Shady. See, if I was Scouty, I’d tell you to F off.