JJ Wetherholt selected by BA in Best Tools & Players in Futures Game

[Goldfan]

Guy is going to be a terror when he comes up.
He's got all the tools.
Best Cardinals prospect ever?

JD Drew and Rick Ankiel

I’d put Oscar Taveras 3rd

matt morris worked out pretty well.. and lankford.. and coleman.. and herr.. pretty good history of prospects here..

Right, but the question was best ever, and I think that’s easily Drew and Ankiel

best prospect? or best prospect that had the best career?

Best prospect. Highest regarded / drafted / rated. I’m talking about guys who were in the conversation as best college player, best school player, top of the draft, then highly ranked.

Hence my easy 1 and 2 of Drew and Ankiel.

Someone else mentioned Simmons. He predates me by a good margin and really all the ratings services, but he’d have to be up there I guess.

So what you’re talking about is someone’s opinion of what a kid who’s about to be drafted looks like. Not really production, stats, play in the minors……
Has anyone ever rated these modern rating services? That would be an interesting read

I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.

Are you saying that you don’t think Drew and Ankiel deserved to be thought of as they were?

If so, why?

If no, what are you arguing?

I’m attempting to determine what you define as a prospect? From your responses it appears your entire view of a prospect is the value these “experts” put on the player before they ever perform as a pro.

A prospect is basically any player in the minors. How does yours differ?

JJ has been performing as a Pro which I believe was the posters origination point for asking “Who was cards best prospect” not who had all the “bloviating experts” falling all over themselves before the player ever put on a minor league uni.

So how does Drew or Ankiel NOT qualify as a prospect to you?

This is so weird.

If as you claim, Pujols was qualified as a prospect…..how is he not the best modern prospect to ever be in the Cards organization?

Because he wasn’t nearly as highly regarded as Drew or Ankiel. Why is this difficult?

The statement was Best Cards Prospects Ever.
Not Highest Graded, Highest Drafted, Highly Regarded, so perhaps the question was ambiguous
So as you say a Prospect is any Cards minor leaguer, with the best Cards minor leaguer being Albert Pujols by a margin so great that there probably isn’t a second place.
If you’re siloed into a draft number or opinion ranking I personally don’t extrapolate that into a phrase “Best Cards Prospect Ever” if you have one of the perhaps top 5-10 players in MLB history being drafted, cards minor leaguer player(prospect), then solidify his HOF numbers for 11 yrs in STL. That guy would be the “Best Cards Prospect Ever” but if you think that phrase might describe a journeyman MLB player or flame out pitcher I guess we’re just pulling different meaning from that phrase.

[An Old Friend]

Guy is going to be a terror when he comes up.
He's got all the tools.
Best Cardinals prospect ever?

JD Drew and Rick Ankiel

I’d put Oscar Taveras 3rd

matt morris worked out pretty well.. and lankford.. and coleman.. and herr.. pretty good history of prospects here..

Right, but the question was best ever, and I think that’s easily Drew and Ankiel

best prospect? or best prospect that had the best career?

Best prospect. Highest regarded / drafted / rated. I’m talking about guys who were in the conversation as best college player, best school player, top of the draft, then highly ranked.

Hence my easy 1 and 2 of Drew and Ankiel.

Someone else mentioned Simmons. He predates me by a good margin and really all the ratings services, but he’d have to be up there I guess.

So what you’re talking about is someone’s opinion of what a kid who’s about to be drafted looks like. Not really production, stats, play in the minors……
Has anyone ever rated these modern rating services? That would be an interesting read

I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.

Are you saying that you don’t think Drew and Ankiel deserved to be thought of as they were?

If so, why?

If no, what are you arguing?

I’m attempting to determine what you define as a prospect? From your responses it appears your entire view of a prospect is the value these “experts” put on the player before they ever perform as a pro.

A prospect is basically any player in the minors. How does yours differ?

JJ has been performing as a Pro which I believe was the posters origination point for asking “Who was cards best prospect” not who had all the “bloviating experts” falling all over themselves before the player ever put on a minor league uni.

So how does Drew or Ankiel NOT qualify as a prospect to you?

This is so weird.

If as you claim, Pujols was qualified as a prospect…..how is he not the best modern prospect to ever be in the Cards organization?

Because he wasn’t nearly as highly regarded as Drew or Ankiel. Why is this difficult?

The statement was Best Cards Prospects Ever.

Right, which I've very clearly answered that, in my opinion, the best Cards prospect was JD Drew, followed by Rick Ankiel.

You keep going back and forth, but you haven't said why you disagree with those two.

Not Highest Graded, Highest Drafted, Highly Regarded, so perhaps the question was ambiguous

I didn't find it ambiguous at all. It's obviously open to interpretation.

So as you say a Prospect is any Cards minor leaguer, with the best Cards minor leaguer being Albert Pujols by a margin so great that there probably isn’t a second place.

Why do you think he was their best prospect? He was a 13th round pick and topped out at 42 on BA's list prior to hitting the majors.

The Cardinals have had multiple prospects far more highly rated and regarded than Pujols was.

If you’re siloed into a draft number or opinion ranking I personally don’t extrapolate that into a phrase “Best Cards Prospect Ever” if you have one of the perhaps top 5-10 players in MLB history being drafted, cards minor leaguer player(prospect), then solidify his HOF numbers for 11 yrs in STL. That guy would be the “Best Cards Prospect Ever” but if you think that phrase might describe a journeyman MLB player or flame out pitcher I guess we’re just pulling different meaning from that phrase.

YOU are saying best Cardinals player ever, not prospect. You're referencing his big league career.

That's NOT what we're talking about.

I don't know why you're having trouble with it. Pujols wasn't even the highest rated prospect in the Cardinals SYSTEM going into 2001. He was 42nd overall and 2nd behind Bud Smith at 39.

[Goldfan]

Guy is going to be a terror when he comes up.
He's got all the tools.
Best Cardinals prospect ever?

JD Drew and Rick Ankiel

I’d put Oscar Taveras 3rd

matt morris worked out pretty well.. and lankford.. and coleman.. and herr.. pretty good history of prospects here..

Right, but the question was best ever, and I think that’s easily Drew and Ankiel

best prospect? or best prospect that had the best career?

Best prospect. Highest regarded / drafted / rated. I’m talking about guys who were in the conversation as best college player, best school player, top of the draft, then highly ranked.

Hence my easy 1 and 2 of Drew and Ankiel.

Someone else mentioned Simmons. He predates me by a good margin and really all the ratings services, but he’d have to be up there I guess.

So what you’re talking about is someone’s opinion of what a kid who’s about to be drafted looks like. Not really production, stats, play in the minors……
Has anyone ever rated these modern rating services? That would be an interesting read

I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.

Are you saying that you don’t think Drew and Ankiel deserved to be thought of as they were?

If so, why?

If no, what are you arguing?

I’m attempting to determine what you define as a prospect? From your responses it appears your entire view of a prospect is the value these “experts” put on the player before they ever perform as a pro.

A prospect is basically any player in the minors. How does yours differ?

JJ has been performing as a Pro which I believe was the posters origination point for asking “Who was cards best prospect” not who had all the “bloviating experts” falling all over themselves before the player ever put on a minor league uni.

So how does Drew or Ankiel NOT qualify as a prospect to you?

This is so weird.

If as you claim, Pujols was qualified as a prospect…..how is he not the best modern prospect to ever be in the Cards organization?

Because he wasn’t nearly as highly regarded as Drew or Ankiel. Why is this difficult?

The statement was Best Cards Prospects Ever.

Right, which I've very clearly answered that, in my opinion, the best Cards prospect was JD Drew, followed by Rick Ankiel.

You keep going back and forth, but you haven't said why you disagree with those two.

Not Highest Graded, Highest Drafted, Highly Regarded, so perhaps the question was ambiguous

I didn't find it ambiguous at all. It's obviously open to interpretation.

So as you say a Prospect is any Cards minor leaguer, with the best Cards minor leaguer being Albert Pujols by a margin so great that there probably isn’t a second place.

Why do you think he was their best prospect? He was a 13th round pick and topped out at 42 on BA's list prior to hitting the majors.

The Cardinals have had multiple prospects far more highly rated and regarded than Pujols was.

If you’re siloed into a draft number or opinion ranking I personally don’t extrapolate that into a phrase “Best Cards Prospect Ever” if you have one of the perhaps top 5-10 players in MLB history being drafted, cards minor leaguer player(prospect), then solidify his HOF numbers for 11 yrs in STL. That guy would be the “Best Cards Prospect Ever” but if you think that phrase might describe a journeyman MLB player or flame out pitcher I guess we’re just pulling different meaning from that phrase.

YOU are saying best Cardinals player ever, not prospect. You're referencing his big league career.

That's NOT what we're talking about.

I don't know why you're having trouble with it. Pujols wasn't even the highest rated prospect in the Cardinals SYSTEM going into 2001. He was 42nd overall and 2nd behind Bud Smith at 39.

All these rankings and a can of beans gets you what?? As shown many times over with Cards Prospects they could flame out to nothing no matter how high their ranking is. Thats the debate here?? Wondering who had the highest opinion ranking before they ever performed a pro baseball action?
If JJ had stalled out in rookie ball and he looked like chit would the poster have asked “Who’s best Cards Prospect Ever”? He still would’ve had all the predraft rankings and opinions but it would have been an irrelevant question or conversation. He posed the question because of how he’s performing now, his rate of ascent, and possible MLB career. If the poster was asking who was the highest rated or drafted prospect then you’re position is correct.

[LewisL]

Guy is going to be a terror when he comes up.
He's got all the tools.
Best Cardinals prospect ever?

When he gets 3,631 hits in a Cardinals uniform he will be the best prospect ever - and Musial did that while missing 2 seasons due to military service.

And Musial actually started out in the system as a pitcher until an arm injury.

[An Old Friend]

JD Drew and Rick Ankiel

I’d put Oscar Taveras 3rd

matt morris worked out pretty well.. and lankford.. and coleman.. and herr.. pretty good history of prospects here..

Right, but the question was best ever, and I think that’s easily Drew and Ankiel

best prospect? or best prospect that had the best career?

Best prospect. Highest regarded / drafted / rated. I’m talking about guys who were in the conversation as best college player, best school player, top of the draft, then highly ranked.

Hence my easy 1 and 2 of Drew and Ankiel.

Someone else mentioned Simmons. He predates me by a good margin and really all the ratings services, but he’d have to be up there I guess.

So what you’re talking about is someone’s opinion of what a kid who’s about to be drafted looks like. Not really production, stats, play in the minors……
Has anyone ever rated these modern rating services? That would be an interesting read

I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.

Are you saying that you don’t think Drew and Ankiel deserved to be thought of as they were?

If so, why?

If no, what are you arguing?

I’m attempting to determine what you define as a prospect? From your responses it appears your entire view of a prospect is the value these “experts” put on the player before they ever perform as a pro.

A prospect is basically any player in the minors. How does yours differ?

JJ has been performing as a Pro which I believe was the posters origination point for asking “Who was cards best prospect” not who had all the “bloviating experts” falling all over themselves before the player ever put on a minor league uni.

So how does Drew or Ankiel NOT qualify as a prospect to you?

This is so weird.

If as you claim, Pujols was qualified as a prospect…..how is he not the best modern prospect to ever be in the Cards organization?

Because he wasn’t nearly as highly regarded as Drew or Ankiel. Why is this difficult?

The statement was Best Cards Prospects Ever.

Right, which I've very clearly answered that, in my opinion, the best Cards prospect was JD Drew, followed by Rick Ankiel.

You keep going back and forth, but you haven't said why you disagree with those two.

Not Highest Graded, Highest Drafted, Highly Regarded, so perhaps the question was ambiguous

I didn't find it ambiguous at all. It's obviously open to interpretation.

So as you say a Prospect is any Cards minor leaguer, with the best Cards minor leaguer being Albert Pujols by a margin so great that there probably isn’t a second place.

Why do you think he was their best prospect? He was a 13th round pick and topped out at 42 on BA's list prior to hitting the majors.

The Cardinals have had multiple prospects far more highly rated and regarded than Pujols was.

If you’re siloed into a draft number or opinion ranking I personally don’t extrapolate that into a phrase “Best Cards Prospect Ever” if you have one of the perhaps top 5-10 players in MLB history being drafted, cards minor leaguer player(prospect), then solidify his HOF numbers for 11 yrs in STL. That guy would be the “Best Cards Prospect Ever” but if you think that phrase might describe a journeyman MLB player or flame out pitcher I guess we’re just pulling different meaning from that phrase.

YOU are saying best Cardinals player ever, not prospect. You're referencing his big league career.

That's NOT what we're talking about.

I don't know why you're having trouble with it. Pujols wasn't even the highest rated prospect in the Cardinals SYSTEM going into 2001. He was 42nd overall and 2nd behind Bud Smith at 39.

All these rankings and a can of beans gets you what?? As shown many times over with Cards Prospects they could flame out to nothing no matter how high their ranking is. Thats the debate here?? Wondering who had the highest opinion ranking before they ever performed a pro baseball action?
If JJ had stalled out in rookie ball and he looked like chit would the poster have asked “Who’s best Cards Prospect Ever”? He still would’ve had all the predraft rankings and opinions but it would have been an irrelevant question or conversation. He posed the question because of how he’s performing now, his rate of ascent, and possible MLB career. If the poster was asking who was the highest rated or drafted prospect then you’re position is correct.

I know my position is correct. That’s what’s been so perplexing about you challenging it.

At least you’re finally on board

[An Old Friend]

Guy is going to be a terror when he comes up.
He's got all the tools.
Best Cardinals prospect ever?

When he gets 3,631 hits in a Cardinals uniform he will be the best prospect ever - and Musial did that while missing 2 seasons due to military service.

That’s best player, not best prospect, obviously.

The answer to his question is “no”, Wetherholt is not the best prospect the Cardinals have had.

I don’t see how anyone could argue against JD Drew. High pick, top rated prospect in the game, and debuted in the majors after just 45 minor league games.

[Cardinals4Life]

matt morris worked out pretty well.. and lankford.. and coleman.. and herr.. pretty good history of prospects here..

Right, but the question was best ever, and I think that’s easily Drew and Ankiel

best prospect? or best prospect that had the best career?

Best prospect. Highest regarded / drafted / rated. I’m talking about guys who were in the conversation as best college player, best school player, top of the draft, then highly ranked.

Hence my easy 1 and 2 of Drew and Ankiel.

Someone else mentioned Simmons. He predates me by a good margin and really all the ratings services, but he’d have to be up there I guess.

So what you’re talking about is someone’s opinion of what a kid who’s about to be drafted looks like. Not really production, stats, play in the minors……
Has anyone ever rated these modern rating services? That would be an interesting read

I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.

Are you saying that you don’t think Drew and Ankiel deserved to be thought of as they were?

If so, why?

If no, what are you arguing?

I’m attempting to determine what you define as a prospect? From your responses it appears your entire view of a prospect is the value these “experts” put on the player before they ever perform as a pro.

A prospect is basically any player in the minors. How does yours differ?

JJ has been performing as a Pro which I believe was the posters origination point for asking “Who was cards best prospect” not who had all the “bloviating experts” falling all over themselves before the player ever put on a minor league uni.

So how does Drew or Ankiel NOT qualify as a prospect to you?

This is so weird.

If as you claim, Pujols was qualified as a prospect…..how is he not the best modern prospect to ever be in the Cards organization?

Because he wasn’t nearly as highly regarded as Drew or Ankiel. Why is this difficult?

The statement was Best Cards Prospects Ever.

Right, which I've very clearly answered that, in my opinion, the best Cards prospect was JD Drew, followed by Rick Ankiel.

You keep going back and forth, but you haven't said why you disagree with those two.

Not Highest Graded, Highest Drafted, Highly Regarded, so perhaps the question was ambiguous

I didn't find it ambiguous at all. It's obviously open to interpretation.

So as you say a Prospect is any Cards minor leaguer, with the best Cards minor leaguer being Albert Pujols by a margin so great that there probably isn’t a second place.

Why do you think he was their best prospect? He was a 13th round pick and topped out at 42 on BA's list prior to hitting the majors.

The Cardinals have had multiple prospects far more highly rated and regarded than Pujols was.

If you’re siloed into a draft number or opinion ranking I personally don’t extrapolate that into a phrase “Best Cards Prospect Ever” if you have one of the perhaps top 5-10 players in MLB history being drafted, cards minor leaguer player(prospect), then solidify his HOF numbers for 11 yrs in STL. That guy would be the “Best Cards Prospect Ever” but if you think that phrase might describe a journeyman MLB player or flame out pitcher I guess we’re just pulling different meaning from that phrase.

YOU are saying best Cardinals player ever, not prospect. You're referencing his big league career.

That's NOT what we're talking about.

I don't know why you're having trouble with it. Pujols wasn't even the highest rated prospect in the Cardinals SYSTEM going into 2001. He was 42nd overall and 2nd behind Bud Smith at 39.

All these rankings and a can of beans gets you what?? As shown many times over with Cards Prospects they could flame out to nothing no matter how high their ranking is. Thats the debate here?? Wondering who had the highest opinion ranking before they ever performed a pro baseball action?
If JJ had stalled out in rookie ball and he looked like chit would the poster have asked “Who’s best Cards Prospect Ever”? He still would’ve had all the predraft rankings and opinions but it would have been an irrelevant question or conversation. He posed the question because of how he’s performing now, his rate of ascent, and possible MLB career. If the poster was asking who was the highest rated or drafted prospect then you’re position is correct.

I know my position is correct. That’s what’s been so perplexing about you challenging it.

At least you’re finally on board

My goodness you think highly of yourself, don't you?
Why are you so arrogant and rude to people?
Is this how you are in real life or just on the internet?
I don't get it, guy. Nobody likes a know it all.

[AnExParrot]

Right, but the question was best ever, and I think that’s easily Drew and Ankiel

best prospect? or best prospect that had the best career?

Best prospect. Highest regarded / drafted / rated. I’m talking about guys who were in the conversation as best college player, best school player, top of the draft, then highly ranked.

Hence my easy 1 and 2 of Drew and Ankiel.

Someone else mentioned Simmons. He predates me by a good margin and really all the ratings services, but he’d have to be up there I guess.

So what you’re talking about is someone’s opinion of what a kid who’s about to be drafted looks like. Not really production, stats, play in the minors……
Has anyone ever rated these modern rating services? That would be an interesting read

I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.

Are you saying that you don’t think Drew and Ankiel deserved to be thought of as they were?

If so, why?

If no, what are you arguing?

I’m attempting to determine what you define as a prospect? From your responses it appears your entire view of a prospect is the value these “experts” put on the player before they ever perform as a pro.

A prospect is basically any player in the minors. How does yours differ?

JJ has been performing as a Pro which I believe was the posters origination point for asking “Who was cards best prospect” not who had all the “bloviating experts” falling all over themselves before the player ever put on a minor league uni.

So how does Drew or Ankiel NOT qualify as a prospect to you?

This is so weird.

If as you claim, Pujols was qualified as a prospect…..how is he not the best modern prospect to ever be in the Cards organization?

Because he wasn’t nearly as highly regarded as Drew or Ankiel. Why is this difficult?

The statement was Best Cards Prospects Ever.

Right, which I've very clearly answered that, in my opinion, the best Cards prospect was JD Drew, followed by Rick Ankiel.

You keep going back and forth, but you haven't said why you disagree with those two.

Not Highest Graded, Highest Drafted, Highly Regarded, so perhaps the question was ambiguous

I didn't find it ambiguous at all. It's obviously open to interpretation.

So as you say a Prospect is any Cards minor leaguer, with the best Cards minor leaguer being Albert Pujols by a margin so great that there probably isn’t a second place.

Why do you think he was their best prospect? He was a 13th round pick and topped out at 42 on BA's list prior to hitting the majors.

The Cardinals have had multiple prospects far more highly rated and regarded than Pujols was.

If you’re siloed into a draft number or opinion ranking I personally don’t extrapolate that into a phrase “Best Cards Prospect Ever” if you have one of the perhaps top 5-10 players in MLB history being drafted, cards minor leaguer player(prospect), then solidify his HOF numbers for 11 yrs in STL. That guy would be the “Best Cards Prospect Ever” but if you think that phrase might describe a journeyman MLB player or flame out pitcher I guess we’re just pulling different meaning from that phrase.

YOU are saying best Cardinals player ever, not prospect. You're referencing his big league career.

That's NOT what we're talking about.

I don't know why you're having trouble with it. Pujols wasn't even the highest rated prospect in the Cardinals SYSTEM going into 2001. He was 42nd overall and 2nd behind Bud Smith at 39.

All these rankings and a can of beans gets you what?? As shown many times over with Cards Prospects they could flame out to nothing no matter how high their ranking is. Thats the debate here?? Wondering who had the highest opinion ranking before they ever performed a pro baseball action?
If JJ had stalled out in rookie ball and he looked like chit would the poster have asked “Who’s best Cards Prospect Ever”? He still would’ve had all the predraft rankings and opinions but it would have been an irrelevant question or conversation. He posed the question because of how he’s performing now, his rate of ascent, and possible MLB career. If the poster was asking who was the highest rated or drafted prospect then you’re position is correct.

I know my position is correct. That’s what’s been so perplexing about you challenging it.

At least you’re finally on board

My goodness you think highly of yourself, don't you?
Why are you so arrogant and rude to people?
Is this how you are in real life or just on the internet?
I don't get it, guy. Nobody likes a know it all.

Particularly and especially the ones who don't[know it all].

[Goldfan]

Right, but the question was best ever, and I think that’s easily Drew and Ankiel

best prospect? or best prospect that had the best career?

Best prospect. Highest regarded / drafted / rated. I’m talking about guys who were in the conversation as best college player, best school player, top of the draft, then highly ranked.

Hence my easy 1 and 2 of Drew and Ankiel.

Someone else mentioned Simmons. He predates me by a good margin and really all the ratings services, but he’d have to be up there I guess.

So what you’re talking about is someone’s opinion of what a kid who’s about to be drafted looks like. Not really production, stats, play in the minors……
Has anyone ever rated these modern rating services? That would be an interesting read

I’m not sure what you’re suggesting.

Are you saying that you don’t think Drew and Ankiel deserved to be thought of as they were?

If so, why?

If no, what are you arguing?

I’m attempting to determine what you define as a prospect? From your responses it appears your entire view of a prospect is the value these “experts” put on the player before they ever perform as a pro.

A prospect is basically any player in the minors. How does yours differ?

JJ has been performing as a Pro which I believe was the posters origination point for asking “Who was cards best prospect” not who had all the “bloviating experts” falling all over themselves before the player ever put on a minor league uni.

So how does Drew or Ankiel NOT qualify as a prospect to you?

This is so weird.

If as you claim, Pujols was qualified as a prospect…..how is he not the best modern prospect to ever be in the Cards organization?

Because he wasn’t nearly as highly regarded as Drew or Ankiel. Why is this difficult?

The statement was Best Cards Prospects Ever.

Right, which I've very clearly answered that, in my opinion, the best Cards prospect was JD Drew, followed by Rick Ankiel.

You keep going back and forth, but you haven't said why you disagree with those two.

Not Highest Graded, Highest Drafted, Highly Regarded, so perhaps the question was ambiguous

I didn't find it ambiguous at all. It's obviously open to interpretation.

So as you say a Prospect is any Cards minor leaguer, with the best Cards minor leaguer being Albert Pujols by a margin so great that there probably isn’t a second place.

Why do you think he was their best prospect? He was a 13th round pick and topped out at 42 on BA's list prior to hitting the majors.

The Cardinals have had multiple prospects far more highly rated and regarded than Pujols was.

If you’re siloed into a draft number or opinion ranking I personally don’t extrapolate that into a phrase “Best Cards Prospect Ever” if you have one of the perhaps top 5-10 players in MLB history being drafted, cards minor leaguer player(prospect), then solidify his HOF numbers for 11 yrs in STL. That guy would be the “Best Cards Prospect Ever” but if you think that phrase might describe a journeyman MLB player or flame out pitcher I guess we’re just pulling different meaning from that phrase.

YOU are saying best Cardinals player ever, not prospect. You're referencing his big league career.

That's NOT what we're talking about.

I don't know why you're having trouble with it. Pujols wasn't even the highest rated prospect in the Cardinals SYSTEM going into 2001. He was 42nd overall and 2nd behind Bud Smith at 39.

All these rankings and a can of beans gets you what?? As shown many times over with Cards Prospects they could flame out to nothing no matter how high their ranking is. Thats the debate here?? Wondering who had the highest opinion ranking before they ever performed a pro baseball action?
If JJ had stalled out in rookie ball and he looked like chit would the poster have asked “Who’s best Cards Prospect Ever”? He still would’ve had all the predraft rankings and opinions but it would have been an irrelevant question or conversation. He posed the question because of how he’s performing now, his rate of ascent, and possible MLB career. If the poster was asking who was the highest rated or drafted prospect then you’re position is correct.

I know my position is correct. That’s what’s been so perplexing about you challenging it.

At least you’re finally on board

My goodness you think highly of yourself, don't you?
Why are you so arrogant and rude to people?
Is this how you are in real life or just on the internet?
I don't get it, guy. Nobody likes a know it all.

AOF will never say he’s wrong. You need to slowly let him dig into his position…..then drop the hammer
Obviously “BEST” revers to the personal baseball accomplishments of said prospect and NOT highest number drafted or opinion ranking.

[rockondlouie]

Best Cardinals prospect ever?

Hello Bully, my name is ALBERT.

[An Old Friend]

If the poster was asking who was the highest rated or drafted prospect then you’re position is correct.

I know my position is correct. That’s what’s been so perplexing about you challenging it.

At least you’re finally on board

My goodness you think highly of yourself, don't you?
Why are you so arrogant and rude to people?

1. Goldfan can take it. He’s abrasive, you get what you give. If one patronizes me in their inquiries, at some point killing them with kindness doesn’t work.
2. I think Goldfan and I have some level of mutual respect, and that he isn’t bothered by the directness.
3. Think highly of myself? Sure. Certainly when I have confidence around the subject matter.

Is this how you are in real life or just on the internet?
I don't get it, guy. Nobody likes a know it all.

I’d rather know what I’m talking about than opting for willful ignorance.

I’m not going to apologize for that. Why do you prefer uninformed ignorance? Just because someone is nice in the delivery?

[An Old Friend]

I know my position is correct. That’s what’s been so perplexing about you challenging it.

At least you’re finally on board

My goodness you think highly of yourself, don't you?
Why are you so arrogant and rude to people?
Is this how you are in real life or just on the internet?
I don't get it, guy. Nobody likes a know it all.

AOF will never say he’s wrong. You need to slowly let him dig into his position…..then drop the hammer
Obviously “BEST” revers to the personal baseball accomplishments of said prospect and NOT highest number drafted or opinion ranking.

I have no problem admitting when I’m wrong.

You must think Bully is an exceptional dunce if you truly believe he wanted people to ponder whether JJ is better than Pujols.

Anyone with a working brain understands that wasn’t the question.

[Goldfan]

I know my position is correct. That’s what’s been so perplexing about you challenging it.

At least you’re finally on board

My goodness you think highly of yourself, don't you?
Why are you so arrogant and rude to people?
Is this how you are in real life or just on the internet?
I don't get it, guy. Nobody likes a know it all.

AOF will never say he’s wrong. You need to slowly let him dig into his position…..then drop the hammer
Obviously “BEST” revers to the personal baseball accomplishments of said prospect and NOT highest number drafted or opinion ranking.

I have no problem admitting when I’m wrong.

You must think Bully is an exceptional dunce if you truly believe he wanted people to ponder whether JJ is better than Pujols.

Anyone with a working brain understands that wasn’t the question.

He should clarify

[An Old Friend]

Guy is going to be a terror when he comes up.
He's got all the tools.
Best Cardinals prospect ever?

Hey Bully - I understood your question and intent behind it. Why do you think there are a handful of posters that didn’t? That somehow you’re impossibly insane to suggest that perhaps JJ Wetherholt is a better player than Pujols ended up being?

How does THAT question make more sense to them than your actual question? And why are they then so offended that they misinterpreted the question?

Like it’s someone else’s fault that they didn’t understand the exercise

[Goldfan]

Guy is going to be a terror when he comes up.
He's got all the tools.
Best Cardinals prospect ever?

Hey Bully - I understood your question and intent behind it. Why do you think there are a handful of posters that didn’t? That somehow you’re impossibly insane to suggest that perhaps JJ Wetherholt is a better player than Pujols ended up being?

How does THAT question make more sense to them than your actual question? And why are they then so offended that they misinterpreted the question?

Like it’s someone else’s fault that they didn’t understand the exercise

AOF, looks like we have a new “Best Cards Prospect Ever”

Law in today's Athletic (sorry if this is a repeat):

"I think the St. Louis Cardinals had my favorite Day 1 group based on their top two picks.

"They took my top pitcher, Liam Doyle, at No. 5. He has one of the best fastballs in the draft class, a deceptive delivery, and a second-plus pitch in the splitter. He dominated early against bad competition, then continued to perform well in the SEC. The Cardinals followed up that pick with Ryan Mitchell at No. 55, getting what I thought was a first-round bat in need of a new position, a strong kid who makes excellent swing decisions and might come into some power.
Right-hander Tanner Franklin was a little bit of a reach for me at pick 72, but he’(poop) triple-digits with the fastball, needing another pitch to profile as a good reliever. First baseman Jack Gurevitch, their third-rounder, was more of a fourth- or fifth-rounder, but he did have a tremendous year for the University of San Diego, hitting .371/.477/.681 with almost as many walks as strikeouts."

More on Doyle: "I wouldn’t hesitate to start him at least in Double A."

Law's final rankings (not draft position) had Mitchell at #30.
"Mitchell was one of the most advanced and disciplined hitters on the showcase circuit last year, with whiff and chase rates of 16 percent each in almost 400 pitches at tracked events; on pitches well out of the zone (WOOZ?) his chase rate dropped to just 7 percent. He takes a long stride forward but keeps his weight back with excellent balance through contact, with fringy power but some projection to get to average. He doesn’t throw well at all, however, and will have to move off shortstop, possibly to second base, more likely to center, and in the worst-case scenario to left. He’s committed to Georgia Tech."

[An Old Friend]

Guy is going to be a terror when he comes up.
He's got all the tools.
Best Cardinals prospect ever?

Hey Bully - I understood your question and intent behind it. Why do you think there are a handful of posters that didn’t? That somehow you’re impossibly insane to suggest that perhaps JJ Wetherholt is a better player than Pujols ended up being?

How does THAT question make more sense to them than your actual question? And why are they then so offended that they misinterpreted the question?

Like it’s someone else’s fault that they didn’t understand the exercise

AOF, looks like we have a new “Best Cards Prospect Ever”

Law in today's Athletic (sorry if this is a repeat):

"I think the St. Louis Cardinals had my favorite Day 1 group based on their top two picks.

"They took my top pitcher, Liam Doyle, at No. 5. He has one of the best fastballs in the draft class, a deceptive delivery, and a second-plus pitch in the splitter. He dominated early against bad competition, then continued to perform well in the SEC. The Cardinals followed up that pick with Ryan Mitchell at No. 55, getting what I thought was a first-round bat in need of a new position, a strong kid who makes excellent swing decisions and might come into some power.
Right-hander Tanner Franklin was a little bit of a reach for me at pick 72, but he’(poop) triple-digits with the fastball, needing another pitch to profile as a good reliever. First baseman Jack Gurevitch, their third-rounder, was more of a fourth- or fifth-rounder, but he did have a tremendous year for the University of San Diego, hitting .371/.477/.681 with almost as many walks as strikeouts."

More on Doyle: "I wouldn’t hesitate to start him at least in Double A."

Law's final rankings (not draft position) had Mitchell at #30.
Mitchell was one of the most advanced and disciplined hitters on the showcase circuit last year, with whiff and chase rates of 16 percent each in almost 400 pitches at tracked events; on pitches well out of the zone (WOOZ?) his chase rate dropped to just 7 percent. He takes a long stride forward but keeps his weight back with excellent balance through contact, with fringy power but some projection to get to average. He doesn’t throw well at all, however, and will have to move off shortstop, possibly to second base, more likely to center, and in the worst-case scenario to left. He’s committed to Georgia Tech."

Doyle isn’t going to be the top prospect in the game the moment he enters the minors like JD Drew was