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craviduce wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 17:31 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 17:29 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 16:57 pm

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Shady wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 16:28 pm

HorseTrader wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 14:14 pm

Shady wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 08:31 am

HorseTrader wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 07:42 am

Shady wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 20:00 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 19:40 pm

Shady wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 18:33 pm And hitter. Winn or Wetherholt? Is Scott going to hit enough to be CF of the future for the Cardinals? If not, ether Winn or Wetherholy might be a good option. Just thinking outside the box.

Winn is already one of the best defensive SS in the game with an elite throwing arm. Your plan also gives up on VS very early, who is also an elite defender. If you're already strong up the middle, why disrupt? Defense is one of this teams only real sustainable strengths. TIred of seeing defense undervalued.

JJW at CF will also delay his arrival unless you want another Jordan Walker situation where he has to learn a new position at the ML level.

JJW should either replace Donovan who turns 29 before next season or Arenado if he waives NTC and moves on. I'm thinking they might sell high on Donovan if JJW shows strong at Memphis. They've already haggled him hard in arbitration.

Good post. But Wetherholt to CF could easily turned out like the stud for Arizona. IMO. It would sure help fitting both Saggese and Gorman into a future lineup. I'm concerned about Scott's strikeout rate.

What stud for the DBacks? Their CF (Alek Thomas) didn't move from SS to CF. I also doubt anyone considers him a stud (except for you). Now if so happens that you are confused and were thinking about their RF Corbin Carroll, well he is a good player but far as I can tell he never played SS.

One or the other of them may have played a little SS in high school but that's the end of it. Both started their pro careers in the OF. The only similarity is they were drafted out of high school.

I could be mistaken, but I seem to recall Corbin being a converted infielder. And I believe he's played some CF for Arizona.

You are mistaken. In his pro career he's played OF including some in CF but ZERO infield.

Sundin knew from day one that Carroll would be special. He placed Carroll at the leadoff spot and in the outfield right away, knowing he would be able to help the team, which was unusual for a freshman. Sundin was his high school coach.

https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2023/10/ ... utfielder/

Maybe not as a pro. But I'm pretty sure Corbin was an infielder at some point earlier. To me, there is no doubt Wetherholt's athleticism could transition into a very good defensive CF. This would only be necessitated by making more room for Donovan, Gorman and Saggese.

CC played some IF in minors but not in bigs.

the stats I'm looking at, Corbin Carroll played 3 positions in the Minors ...2019, 2021, 2022...and those were LF, RF, CF.

He's never played infield as a pro...

Looks like you’re right. I googled last night and the AI answer stated he played like 260-something innings at SS in minors, but now that you called me on it, I can’t find anything to support. (drat) AI!

Sorry for the bad info. Should’ve known not to trust my own lazy research.

I'm not trying to call you on it.

The other guy constantly says stuff that just isn't true, then lies about where he heard about it.

oh well...

craviduce wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 17:19 pm

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craviduce wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 17:12 pm

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craviduce wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 16:57 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 16:53 pm

Shady wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 16:28 pm

HorseTrader wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 14:14 pm

Shady wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 08:31 am

HorseTrader wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 07:42 am

What stud for the DBacks? Their CF (Alek Thomas) didn't move from SS to CF. I also doubt anyone considers him a stud (except for you). Now if so happens that you are confused and were thinking about their RF Corbin Carroll, well he is a good player but far as I can tell he never played SS.

One or the other of them may have played a little SS in high school but that's the end of it. Both started their pro careers in the OF. The only similarity is they were drafted out of high school.

I could be mistaken, but I seem to recall Corbin being a converted infielder. And I believe he's played some CF for Arizona.

You are mistaken. In his pro career he's played OF including some in CF but ZERO infield.

Sundin knew from day one that Carroll would be special. He placed Carroll at the leadoff spot and in the outfield right away, knowing he would be able to help the team, which was unusual for a freshman. Sundin was his high school coach.

https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2023/10/ ... utfielder/

Maybe not as a pro. But I'm pretty sure Corbin was an infielder at some point earlier. To me, there is no doubt Wetherholt's athleticism could transition into a very good defensive CF. This would only be necessitated by making more room for Donovan, Gorman and Saggese.

CC played some IF in minors but not in bigs.

the stats I'm looking at, Corbin Carroll played 3 positions in the Minors ...2019, 2021, 2022...and those were LF, RF, CF.

He's never played infield as a pro...

Tell me this, could he have been an infielder before pro ball? Like I indicated. And made the transition to the outfield as a pro. Is that a possible scenario?

I don't know, you seem believe it, so...give us the back ground, proof, pay stubs.

O heard it mentioned about Corbin on a tv broadcast.

yeah? Which broadcast, is it still available? Link it, please.

Why the put down attempts? Why be so defensive? Everybody knows your the greatest on CT. You advised your click to ignore me but you can't. What's the deal?

no put down attempts. I never do that with you. You made a claim...people answered the claim. Keep it friendly, don't start name calling or insults, Shady.

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 17:42 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 17:31 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 17:29 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 16:57 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 16:53 pm

Shady wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 16:28 pm

HorseTrader wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 14:14 pm

Shady wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 08:31 am

HorseTrader wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 07:42 am

Shady wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 20:00 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 19:40 pm

Shady wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 18:33 pm And hitter. Winn or Wetherholt? Is Scott going to hit enough to be CF of the future for the Cardinals? If not, ether Winn or Wetherholy might be a good option. Just thinking outside the box.

Winn is already one of the best defensive SS in the game with an elite throwing arm. Your plan also gives up on VS very early, who is also an elite defender. If you're already strong up the middle, why disrupt? Defense is one of this teams only real sustainable strengths. TIred of seeing defense undervalued.

JJW at CF will also delay his arrival unless you want another Jordan Walker situation where he has to learn a new position at the ML level.

JJW should either replace Donovan who turns 29 before next season or Arenado if he waives NTC and moves on. I'm thinking they might sell high on Donovan if JJW shows strong at Memphis. They've already haggled him hard in arbitration.

Good post. But Wetherholt to CF could easily turned out like the stud for Arizona. IMO. It would sure help fitting both Saggese and Gorman into a future lineup. I'm concerned about Scott's strikeout rate.

What stud for the DBacks? Their CF (Alek Thomas) didn't move from SS to CF. I also doubt anyone considers him a stud (except for you). Now if so happens that you are confused and were thinking about their RF Corbin Carroll, well he is a good player but far as I can tell he never played SS.

One or the other of them may have played a little SS in high school but that's the end of it. Both started their pro careers in the OF. The only similarity is they were drafted out of high school.

I could be mistaken, but I seem to recall Corbin being a converted infielder. And I believe he's played some CF for Arizona.

You are mistaken. In his pro career he's played OF including some in CF but ZERO infield.

Sundin knew from day one that Carroll would be special. He placed Carroll at the leadoff spot and in the outfield right away, knowing he would be able to help the team, which was unusual for a freshman. Sundin was his high school coach.

https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2023/10/ ... utfielder/

Maybe not as a pro. But I'm pretty sure Corbin was an infielder at some point earlier. To me, there is no doubt Wetherholt's athleticism could transition into a very good defensive CF. This would only be necessitated by making more room for Donovan, Gorman and Saggese.

CC played some IF in minors but not in bigs.

the stats I'm looking at, Corbin Carroll played 3 positions in the Minors ...2019, 2021, 2022...and those were LF, RF, CF.

He's never played infield as a pro...

Looks like you’re right. I googled last night and the AI answer stated he played like 260-something innings at SS in minors, but now that you called me on it, I can’t find anything to support. (drat) AI!

Sorry for the bad info. Should’ve known not to trust my own lazy research.

I'm not trying to call you on it.

The other guy constantly says stuff that just isn't true, then lies about where he heard about it.

oh well...

Oh yeah, we know his game. He did a lot better in this one though before prodding anyone. Seems we bring out the best/worst in him lol! Also, I didn’t mean “call out” in a negative or defensive manner. I did provide inaccurate information and glad you provided the correct results.

Shady wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 16:28 pm

HorseTrader wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 14:14 pm

Shady wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 08:31 am

HorseTrader wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025 07:42 am

Shady wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 20:00 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 19:40 pm

Shady wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 18:33 pm And hitter. Winn or Wetherholt? Is Scott going to hit enough to be CF of the future for the Cardinals? If not, ether Winn or Wetherholy might be a good option. Just thinking outside the box.

Winn is already one of the best defensive SS in the game with an elite throwing arm. Your plan also gives up on VS very early, who is also an elite defender. If you're already strong up the middle, why disrupt? Defense is one of this teams only real sustainable strengths. TIred of seeing defense undervalued.

JJW at CF will also delay his arrival unless you want another Jordan Walker situation where he has to learn a new position at the ML level.

JJW should either replace Donovan who turns 29 before next season or Arenado if he waives NTC and moves on. I'm thinking they might sell high on Donovan if JJW shows strong at Memphis. They've already haggled him hard in arbitration.

Good post. But Wetherholt to CF could easily turned out like the stud for Arizona. IMO. It would sure help fitting both Saggese and Gorman into a future lineup. I'm concerned about Scott's strikeout rate.

What stud for the DBacks? Their CF (Alek Thomas) didn't move from SS to CF. I also doubt anyone considers him a stud (except for you). Now if so happens that you are confused and were thinking about their RF Corbin Carroll, well he is a good player but far as I can tell he never played SS.

One or the other of them may have played a little SS in high school but that's the end of it. Both started their pro careers in the OF. The only similarity is they were drafted out of high school.

I could be mistaken, but I seem to recall Corbin being a converted infielder. And I believe he's played some CF for Arizona.

You are mistaken. In his pro career he's played OF including some in CF but ZERO infield.

Sundin knew from day one that Carroll would be special. He placed Carroll at the leadoff spot and in the outfield right away, knowing he would be able to help the team, which was unusual for a freshman. Sundin was his high school coach.

https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2023/10/ ... utfielder/

Maybe not as a pro. But I'm pretty sure Corbin was an infielder at some point earlier. To me, there is no doubt Wetherholt's athleticism could transition into a very good defensive CF. This would only be necessitated by making more room for Donovan, Gorman and Saggese.