Shane wright-- matty benier

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

Having a hard time seeing Seattle moving Bernier. He's better on face-offs than Wright; 1st P.P.; 2nd P.K.; and likes to shoot more. plus he's their 1st line (4mins more than Wright- who was on their 3rd line). They've made some sneaky good improvement over the past week (Marchment, Gaudreau), but I can't see them moving out Bernier for Kyrou.


guessing it's for Wright; if it does materialize.



JMO

Would you be ok with Wright? I think I would.

[britishblue]

Kyrou likely holds more value than either 1 for 1.

He doesnt hold enough value to get both.

So either they add and and we get 1 of them plus the extra or we add and we get both.

All depends on what the adds are on either side.

[bluetunehead]

Having a hard time seeing Seattle moving Bernier. He's better on face-offs than Wright; 1st P.P.; 2nd P.K.; and likes to shoot more. plus he's their 1st line (4mins more than Wright- who was on their 3rd line). They've made some sneaky good improvement over the past week (Marchment, Gaudreau), but I can't see them moving out Bernier for Kyrou.


guessing it's for Wright; if it does materialize.



JMO

Beniers has the trust of the coaches there to be on the ice in a pretty big defensive role. For a 22 year old that’s pretty significant. His offense stalled a bit but that also probably comes with playing more of a two-way game than he did out of the gate.

[kimzey59]

I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.

Don't forget Morrison and Molgaard.
Seattle has the chips to get a Kyrou deal done. But they'd have to be willing to part with them.

What about those two moves the needle for you?

For Morrison it's NHL readiness.
Kid could step into an NHL spot right now(granted he's probably nothing more than a 3rd liner but I do think we need to replace MacMac(UFA) with an NHL ready body).

For Molgaard, I liked him in his Draft year and he's developed nicely so far. Excellent defensively(probably NHL ready from a defensive standpoint) and great wheels. More of a Jake Evans type than a scoring line guy; but I'd take him as the second piece to a Beniers deal.

[bluetunehead]

Kyrou likely holds more value than either 1 for 1.

He doesnt hold enough value to get both.

So either they add and and we get 1 of them plus the extra or we add and we get both.

All depends on what the adds are on either side.

We certainly would not be getting both. That’s a non-starter for Seattle. The idea is for one of them. And yeah given the age and experience difference I don’t think it would be a 1 for 1. There’d be some pick and prospect hedging going on.

[seattleblue]

I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.

Are you saying that Seattle would need to add to Wright or Beniers straight up for Kyrou or are you just coveting some of their other prospects in a more expanded transaction?

More saying that if there were a deal with Seattle and it weren't 1-for-1 (it's pretty close IMO) then there are some pieces I'd be interested in, it could be a slightly expanded/balanced deal. And in that context I've been appreciating Dragicevic who is a real leader for his team

[seattleblue]

I would be happy for sure with a deal for Kyrou for Beniers or Wright, that is a sneaky well timed deal. Seattle has several good players in their system (but I think Eduard Sale is a lemon) if there were a prospect add on.

Dragicevic is on Prince Albert with Mrsic and I watched plenty of those games. Difference maker back there. Stepped up in a lot of big moments, seems to embrace those. All year I've been kinda "Washington's system I'm straight envious of, but Seattle has some quality out there" and Dragicevic / Price /Rehkopf / Villneuve as a layer under Berkley Catton, who is great, is why.

Kyrou for Catton is unlikely given how glittering a prospect he is and on our side his lack of NHL track record. If the #8 was in play as an idea then it suggests the Blues are looking for an impact center in multiple concepts. There is so much smoke around Kyrou the Blues are definitely exploring every option. I could believe a world where they trade one of Beniers or Wright. Would love to snag Dragicevic if that happens.

Don't forget Morrison and Molgaard.
Seattle has the chips to get a Kyrou deal done. But they'd have to be willing to part with them.

What about those two moves the needle for you?

For Morrison it's NHL readiness.
Kid could step into an NHL spot right now(granted he's probably nothing more than a 3rd liner but I do think we need to replace MacMac(UFA) with an NHL ready body).

For Molgaard, I liked him in his Draft year and he's developed nicely so far. Excellent defensively(probably NHL ready from a defensive standpoint) and great wheels. More of a Jake Evans type than a scoring line guy; but I'd take him as the second piece to a Beniers deal.

Thanks, I haven't gotten eyes on them as prospects lately

[seattleblue]

Kyrou likely holds more value than either 1 for 1.

He doesnt hold enough value to get both.

So either they add and and we get 1 of them plus the extra or we add and we get both.

All depends on what the adds are on either side.

We certainly would not be getting both. That’s a non-starter for Seattle. The idea is for one of them. And yeah given the age and experience difference I don’t think it would be a 1 for 1. There’d be some pick and prospect hedging going on.

There is zero chance of them trading both, agreed

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

Granlund is supposedly in talks to extend with Dallas, Giroux signed an extension... steadily all the possible 2c options in the market are disappearing raising the value of potentially available centers. It's why if you believe Dreger people are making calls to Armey for Schenn. Francis knows this. Any deal for Wright or Berniers is going to be closer to the one for one hockey trade with a little extra added. The market is just too skewed. Plus, there are options on the fa market to load up on respectable wingers .

[larueskee]

I think Seattle would do the trade for Wright but not Berniers.

[TruBlueFan_1970]

I think Seattle would do the trade for Wright but not Berniers.

Agreed. And he did produce pretty well last year in his first full time role. Not sure he lives up to his #4 draft position, but we don’t need him to. If he turns into a 60-65 point center, I’d be ecstatic. I do think they have to add though, as Kyrou holds more value.

Preference is Dragacevic. They also have 2 first round picks next season. In a bigger deal, I’d take McCann back too. They were reportedly shopping him a couple weeks ago. With their recent trades, they could maybe let him go to free up some space in a Kyrou deal. Not sure they would ask for more or not. They have the pieces to make a fair trade for both sides though. Guess we’ll find out in about 12 hours. Lol

[seattleblue]

Kyrou for Wright and Dragicevic get er done leery

[stljrs]

Not sure $ work with Wright. $ would for Beniers. This is exactly the kind of hockey trade Army would make. Legit centers are valuable and tough to come by, as are 30+ goal wingers. Hate to lose Kyrou but this makes more sense than anything we could put together with Montreal, imho..

[noted]

Having a hard time seeing Seattle moving Bernier. He's better on face-offs than Wright; 1st P.P.; 2nd P.K.; and likes to shoot more. plus he's their 1st line (4mins more than Wright- who was on their 3rd line). They've made some sneaky good improvement over the past week (Marchment, Gaudreau), but I can't see them moving out Bernier for Kyrou.


guessing it's for Wright; if it does materialize.



JMO

Would you be ok with Wright? I think I would.

Yes

[Nublues69]

I think Seattle would do the trade for Wright but not Berniers.

Agreed. And he did produce pretty well last year in his first full time role. Not sure he lives up to his #4 draft position, but we don’t need him to. If he turns into a 60-65 point center, I’d be ecstatic. I do think they have to add though, as Kyrou holds more value.

Preference is Dragacevic. They also have 2 first round picks next season. In a bigger deal, I’d take McCann back too. They were reportedly shopping him a couple weeks ago. With their recent trades, they could maybe let him go to free up some space in a Kyrou deal. Not sure they would ask for more or not. They have the pieces to make a fair trade for both sides though. Guess we’ll find out in about 12 hours. Lol

they have 18 mil in cap

[skilles]

Not sure $ work with Wright. $ would for Beniers. This is exactly the kind of hockey trade Army would make. Legit centers are valuable and tough to come by, as are 30+ goal wingers. Hate to lose Kyrou but this makes more sense than anything we could put together with Montreal, imho..

Montreal has some pretty good RD prospects