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I agree with this. I think Saggese can play.Strummer Jones wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 13:48 pm I hope the team's looking at what Nootbaar could bring in a trade. Then you move Donnie out to LF (where he'll produce what we HOPE Nootbaar will FINALLY produce maybe someday) and give Saggese 2B.
I'm curious if he would end up being a better option than either or both Walker and Gorman.riff raff wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 15:17 pmI agree with this. I think Saggese can play.Strummer Jones wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 13:48 pm I hope the team's looking at what Nootbaar could bring in a trade. Then you move Donnie out to LF (where he'll produce what we HOPE Nootbaar will FINALLY produce maybe someday) and give Saggese 2B.
I can see him as a regular at either 3B or in LF.
You may very well be right on the utility player eval. Can I ask you what you thought the ceiling was for the following 2 guys before they got the chance to play every day: Matt Carpenter and Brendan Donovan? As I recall, both guys looked like utility players. Sometimes, you just never know.
An Old Friend wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 17:27 pm Yes, he's having a good year. Plate discipline is much improved. BABIP is incredibly high so that's skewing the slash line significantly, and he's popping the ball up too much.
I wouldn't yet be seduced by the slash line.
He can hitProbably but there’s just some flags still there.riff raff wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 18:18 pmAn Old Friend wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 17:27 pm Yes, he's having a good year. Plate discipline is much improved. BABIP is incredibly high so that's skewing the slash line significantly, and he's popping the ball up too much.
I wouldn't yet be seduced by the slash line.
Maybe he’s just finding holes in the defense.An Old Friend wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 19:00 pmProbably but there’s just some flags still there.riff raff wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 18:18 pmAn Old Friend wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 17:27 pm Yes, he's having a good year. Plate discipline is much improved. BABIP is incredibly high so that's skewing the slash line significantly, and he's popping the ball up too much.
I wouldn't yet be seduced by the slash line.
He has a .514 BABIP in June… which is obviously absurd.
Yes, of course.Wattage wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 10:44 amWouldnt it just be easier to have donovan play lf and him 2b though instead of having to teach him outfield. Granted increasing versatility can never hurt.12xu wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 08:24 amAgree. There is far more opportunity for him as a RH batter in the St. Louis OF if he can transition to left field. Seems to me that he could easily handle the move, given the proper time to learn the position.3dender wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 08:05 am .319/.405/.450 for an .855 OPS with 5 HR and 24 RBI in 41 games.
If this org was smart they already woulda been giving him OF reps so that he can be a Donovan-like super-ute guy and not just one more MI who is blocked at the MLB level. But it's never too late to start.
Right now, he is blocked at SS by Winn, 2B by Donovan and Gorman, 3B by Arenado and Gorman - plus JJ Wetherholt will soon be competing with him for these positions. He has played over 500 games as a professional, all on the infield, why not give him some instruction and playing time at the easier position of LF?
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 08:47 amI totally disagree Rock. We already have a game like yesterday where both Gorman and Walker were on the bench. If you put Saggese on the roster instead of Barrero it becomes an even bigger problem. There simply is no PT for him right now outside of like the very rare off day for Winn. With a JAG like Barrero it’s no problem, for a young kid with upside like Saggese that’s an issue.rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 08:42 am Needed to be up here weeks ago
The useless Jose Barrero is J.A.G. and a waste of a roster spot.
Saggese can play multiple positions and any competent manager (ok, let's Oli out) could easily find him three starts a week plus some PHing opportunities.
Tony Gwynn had a career .341 BABIP and a career high .389 in 1994.Cranny wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 20:49 pmMaybe he’s just finding holes in the defense.An Old Friend wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 19:00 pmProbably but there’s just some flags still there.riff raff wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 18:18 pmAn Old Friend wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 17:27 pm Yes, he's having a good year. Plate discipline is much improved. BABIP is incredibly high so that's skewing the slash line significantly, and he's popping the ball up too much.
I wouldn't yet be seduced by the slash line.
He has a .514 BABIP in June… which is obviously absurd.
Saggese is having a solid year at AAA. No one is saying that “he is blocked at the MLB level”, or “he’s got nothing left to prove in AAA”, or “free Thomas Saggese”, or “what’s this kid gotta do?”peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 07:48 am https://www.milb.com/player/thomas-saggese-695336
Well, I did not specifically any of that stuff you put in quotes. But since you brought it up, yes, he is in fact blocked at the MLB level. If Mozeliak had pulled off the Arenado trade and/or Noot were traded, Saggese gets the call. No doubter, IMO.BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 22:10 pmSaggese is having a solid year at AAA. No one is saying that “he is blocked at the MLB level”, or “he’s got nothing left to prove in AAA”, or “free Thomas Saggese”, or “what’s this kid gotta do?”peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025 07:48 am https://www.milb.com/player/thomas-saggese-695336