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Well, the Panthers were about as aggressive in this game as I have seen them. Oilers need to come out and out-hockey them, the chippy stuff isn't going to work.

Announcers are right about Bennett, ways to go but the Smythe seems to have his name on it.
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I’ll tell you what, I’m not sure where to start, but Evander Kane is the most undisciplined player I have ever seen. That was noticeable in the first period, even before all the nonsense started. Then some of the other stuff in the third period was just embarrassing for Edmonton. What a bunch of punks.
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Francis Park Thug wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:13 pm
Spyro Gyra wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:49 pm
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:48 pm Oilers embarrassing themselves. Walman beer league water bottle and then they are trying to play tough and getting stomped. And McCrybaby holding the stick to get a holding call. What an utter group of trashy players and two stars who are whiny.
Sad, indeed. Pathetic spectacle by the Oilers tonight.
Everybody is talking about it. :lol:
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Edmonton absolutely blew up tonight, and that's going to be hard to recover from.

To be that undisciplined in a game 3 in your second Stanley Cup final is hard to fathom.

I predicted Florida in 6 and tonight showed that it might actually be 5, but I'll stay say 6.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:24 pm Edmonton absolutely blew up tonight, and that's going to be hard to recover from.

To be that undisciplined in a game 3 in your second Stanley Cup final is hard to fathom.

I predicted Florida in 6 and tonight showed that it might actually be 5, but I'll stay say 6.
If Florida wins Wednesday, which I believe they will, it is all over for the Oil.
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Frank Underwood wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:20 pm I’ll tell you what, I’m not sure where to start, but Evander Kane is the most undisciplined player I have ever seen. That was noticeable in the first period, even before all the nonsense started. Then some of the other stuff in the third period was just embarrassing for Edmonton. What a bunch of punks.
Kane has talent and can beat a team playing hockey. At heart he's a punk, often he just can't resist dragging his game down into the gutter.

Gretzky's analysis is spot on, Florida took Oilers out of their game, Oilers kept retaliating instead of initiating. They have to be disciplined otherwise McDavid and Draisaitl become irrelevant like they were tonight.
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Aesa wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:28 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:24 pm Edmonton absolutely blew up tonight, and that's going to be hard to recover from.

To be that undisciplined in a game 3 in your second Stanley Cup final is hard to fathom.

I predicted Florida in 6 and tonight showed that it might actually be 5, but I'll stay say 6.
If Florida wins Wednesday, which I believe they will, it is all over for the Oil.
Idk we thought that last year. This Oilers team plays best when their backs are at the wall
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He Panthers blew a 3-0 lead last year, but are too poised this time around.
Tkachuk has matured most nicely. Marchand and Bennett are charmed.
The loss of Hyman cannot be underestimated.
Nugent-Hopkins is a shadow of himself.
The Oiler defense, as someone said, are shallow and sketchy.
McDavid and Draisaitl are trying to do too much. They aren’t trusting their teammates enough. Maybe they hit a wall.
Bouchard looks absolutely lost and lacks desire.
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Aesa; I guarantee to you that Florida will not win Wednesday. I'd bet thousands of dollars against that happening. As for this Monday night game after watching the 1st period, I barely watched much of the second period as I lost all interest in this scuffle and penalty filled game. A player like Kane will really need to check his lack of discipline on the bench. The Oilers will need to not try so many passes on the power play particularly. Bobrovsky is just too good to give him time to line up the shots. Greer, taking Walman's glove off his hand and tossing it on the ground by the Fl bech was a petty move. Boucher was not amused when Walman squirted the water his way. Funny that him and Mikolla didn;t mix it up. In fact 77 skated away from controversy, probably wisely since Florida was winning. Florida seems to have the Oiles # and that is boring since I don;t have a orse in this final race for the Cup. Oh and to finish, neither the Oilers or the Panthers will win Wednesday, Aesa, because they aren;t playing til Thursday night. LOL

After Harry's comments, to me Bouchard is firing away but not effectively. Maybe "Bob" is i their heads..but the 1st two games many goals were scored, so there is hope on Thursday that Edmonton can win. Please ..Can the rest of the league knock out these Florida teams in earlier rounds?!! .
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Russdv14 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 00:37 am Aesa; I guarantee to you that Florida will not win Wednesday. I'd bet thousands of dollars against that happening. As for this Monday night game after watching the 1st period, I barely watched much of the second period as I lost all interest in this scuffle and penalty filled game. A player like Kane will really need to check his lack of discipline on the bench. The Oilers will need to not try so many passes on the power play particularly. Bobrovsky is just too good to give him time to line up the shots. Greer, taking Walman's glove off his hand and tossing it on the ground by the Fl bech was a petty move. Boucher was not amused when Walman squirted the water his way. Funny that him and Mikolla didn;t mix it up. In fact 77 skated away from controversy, probably wisely since Florida was winning. Florida seems to have the Oiles # and that is boring since I don;t have a orse in this final race for the Cup. Oh and to finish, neither the Oilers or the Panthers will win Wednesday, Aesa, because they aren;t playing til Thursday night. LOL

After Harry's comments, to me Bouchard is firing away but not effectively. Maybe "Bob" is i their heads..but the 1st two games many goals were scored, so there is hope on Thursday that Edmonton can win. Please ..Can the rest of the league knock out these Florida teams in earlier rounds?!! .
Bouchard’s only great moment was a pass. 88 mph from the blue line unscreened ain’t gonna cause Bob any stress. The one time he found a lane and drove the net… he pulled up amd passed, weakly.
The mental errors from virtually the entire team deflated them by the end of the first.
Two days off can work miracles. The Oil need one. Skinner or Pickard need to steal a game.
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MiamiLaw wrote: 09 Jun 2025 23:57 pm
Aesa wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:28 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:24 pm Edmonton absolutely blew up tonight, and that's going to be hard to recover from.

To be that undisciplined in a game 3 in your second Stanley Cup final is hard to fathom.

I predicted Florida in 6 and tonight showed that it might actually be 5, but I'll stay say 6.
If Florida wins Wednesday, which I believe they will, it is all over for the Oil.
Idk we thought that last year. This Oilers team plays best when their backs are at the wall
Exactly. People always overreact after a blow out game.
Don't count out the Oilers. They will respond on Thursday night and the script will be flipped.

The good news for the Panthers is that they have scored 14 goals in this series and Barkov has zero points.
You would be hard pressed to find any team at any point in the year where they have a 14 goal stretch where their 1C is held pointless.
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I saw bits of it switching back and forth with the Cardinals game. Playoffs are a fist fight especially as you go deeper. That's why I don't see how Kyrou fits a winning team in the playoffs. Is there a Kyrou type player on either team?
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The announcers, I think it was Eddie Olcyzk and probably Boucher, were pounding on the Oilers for coming out in the third after killing the Nurse penalty that carried over to the third and they continued to play like they were in Slap Shot. They were down 3. They had an entire period to make that up. It's happened. Then that goof (and the reason the Oil likely won't win the cup) Skinner shoots the puck into the club seats and the Panthers scored on the ensuing PP and that was all she wrote.

They lost their cool for sure. Walman and Kane were the biggest clowns. When did Jake Walman become a tough guy? The water bottle stuff was bush league. Walman punching Tkachuk while another Oiler had him in a bear hug was bush league. Kane trying to slash someone in the face after they had been cross checked to the ice was super bush league. I feel like he's lucky he has bad aim. If he had gotten him in the face that might have caused him a game.
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hotrivets wrote: 10 Jun 2025 08:06 am I saw bits of it switching back and forth with the Cardinals game. Playoffs are a fist fight especially as you go deeper. That's why I don't see how Kyrou fits a winning team in the playoffs. Is there a Kyrou type player on either team?
Bouchard is closest, in my opinion. Tons of offensive skill, but not physically engaged and lacks a burning desire.
Kyrou does have a template named Holloway who can inspire him, so there’s that.
Both are woefully bereft of hockey IQ and make baffling decisions routinely.
Bouchard is an inch or two taller and a few pounds lighter.
He is a year or so younger than Kyrou and is looking for a deal that will be bigger.


It hurts me to watch either of them play in critical moments.
Both have World Class offensive tools and ten cent heads. And worst of all, perhaps ten cent hearts.
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Harry York 37 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 09:36 am
hotrivets wrote: 10 Jun 2025 08:06 am I saw bits of it switching back and forth with the Cardinals game. Playoffs are a fist fight especially as you go deeper. That's why I don't see how Kyrou fits a winning team in the playoffs. Is there a Kyrou type player on either team?
Bouchard is closest, in my opinion. Tons of offensive skill, but not physically engaged and lacks a burning desire.
Kyrou does have a template named Holloway who can inspire him, so there’s that.
Both are woefully bereft of hockey IQ and make baffling decisions routinely.
Bouchard is an inch or two taller and a few pounds lighter.
He is a year or so younger than Kyrou and is looking for a deal that will be bigger.


It hurts me to watch either of them play in critical moments.
Both have World Class offensive tools and ten cent heads. And worst of all, perhaps ten cent hearts.
I would say Verhaeghe is as close as there is on Florida. Though their toolsets are not completely aligned.
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Harry York 37 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 09:36 am
hotrivets wrote: 10 Jun 2025 08:06 am I saw bits of it switching back and forth with the Cardinals game. Playoffs are a fist fight especially as you go deeper. That's why I don't see how Kyrou fits a winning team in the playoffs. Is there a Kyrou type player on either team?
Bouchard is closest, in my opinion. Tons of offensive skill, but not physically engaged and lacks a burning desire.
Kyrou does have a template named Holloway who can inspire him, so there’s that.
Both are woefully bereft of hockey IQ and make baffling decisions routinely.
Bouchard is an inch or two taller and a few pounds lighter.
He is a year or so younger than Kyrou and is looking for a deal that will be bigger.


It hurts me to watch either of them play in critical moments.
Both have World Class offensive tools and ten cent heads. And worst of all, perhaps ten cent hearts.
I get your point but it's a bit harsh. The Oilers need to play hockey, skating, passing, shooting, checking, defending. Bouchard (and Kyrou) can play hockey. The Oilers were taken out of their game, they lost their focus and discipline, got caught up in retaliation and massive amounts of physical stuff without hockey purpose. They wound up marginalizing their own best hockey players. They CAN be physical in their own right but has to be under control; thinking the game has to be their primary focus at all times. If they can't do that they will be swept away.
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