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Re: 'Vic' speed getting national attention
Posted: 09 May 2025 08:53 am
by scoutyjones2
rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 May 2025 08:42 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑08 May 2025 15:25 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 May 2025 14:30 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑08 May 2025 14:10 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 May 2025 10:58 am
bccardsfan wrote: ↑08 May 2025 09:08 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 May 2025 08:57 am
bccardsfan wrote: ↑08 May 2025 08:52 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 May 2025 08:43 am
Great to see another Cardinals player w/speed who causes havoc on the basepaths in the spirit of L. Brock and V. Coleman!
He looks to have better hitting skills than Coleman, and not going to be Lou at the plate. We shall see. But 8 of 9 or 9 of 10 or whatever it is in the SB category, and scoring from first twice yesterday... and running down balls in the gap, and the leaping home run robbing catch.... fun to watch. I am enjoying the team because I love watching some kids develop and I don't expect them to do anything in the post season. MO will be gone too and then Bloom gets to build the team he wants. There are some good pieces here to build around.
Agreed bcc better than Coleman, not Brock level.
Having VSII along w/M. Winn it looks like C. Bloom has two "up the middle" pieces in place to build around w/J.J. coming soon to man 2B!
If only I. Hererra was a stud behind the plate, then we'd have one helluva up the middle for the next 10 years!
Yeah Rock, I am with you on all. IH can pick up a 1B mitt.... or DH and be the emergency catcher. He has a poor arm, so people are going to run on him no matter where he plays. 1B would be OK I guess. They need to find one more SP, a couple of BP pieces, and hope the JJ can really hit in the bigs and play 3B. Saggese can hit, but his arm is not really suited for the left side, so he looks like a second baseman from my small sample size view. My preference is for a lineup of guys like Donnie, who put the ball in play. One or two boppers is all you need. Jack Clark and the seven dwarves as it were (I guess 8 with the stupid DH rule). Not sure who the young bopper will be yet. Unfortunately not looking like Gorman or Walker right now, but they have time. Not sure IH is a real power hitter. We will know by the end of the season. He has shown the flashes. They are going to need one more everyday player who hits for power to go with the guys like Donovan, Winn, VSII and maybe Saggese and who ever else. WC will not be here that much longer. JJ is the wild card. He could blossom or he could turn into Gorman or Walker. But there are pieces here to build a pretty good and fairly young team around.
Herrera is a perfect DH candidate, could even learn 1B or the OF.
What is really missing is that MOTO thunder, a big bat that can hit 30+ HR's and drive in 100 runs.
That hitter isn't on the current team or in our system, he'll have to come via trade or FA.
My hope is J.J., the first #1 to be fully developed under the C. Bloom player development system, won't fall to the wayside like so many have under Mo's leadership.
Once S. Gray's deal is off the books ($35M in 2026), Bloom should have the dry powder to ink a true FOTR starter to go w/Libby giving the Cardinals a solid 1-2 punch. McGreevy, Mathews, ect....hurlers can then fill out the rotation.
The future looks solid to me, but ONLY if BDWJr commits the payroll ($175+M) Bloom will need to build a contender.
If Bill goes cheap, then lean times will be here to stay.
You don't think Ivan the terrible can hit 30 bombs?
I don't.
I remember some on here practically guaranteeing us that the UniKKKorn was going to hit 40 HR's and J. Walker would hit 30.
I see Ivan being a .300 hitter w/a .800-.850 OPS and somewhere in the low 20's HR area.
Maybe in a career year he tops 30?
4 HRs in 21 ABs
I hope you're right!
BUT
T. Edman
8 HR in 111 AB's
He's not hitting 30 HR's either
LMAO. TGTE isn't Ivan the terrible
5'9' 190 #'s vs 5'11' 220

Re: 'Vic' speed getting national attention
Posted: 09 May 2025 09:01 am
by rockondlouie
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 May 2025 08:53 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 May 2025 08:42 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑08 May 2025 15:25 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 May 2025 14:30 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑08 May 2025 14:10 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 May 2025 10:58 am
bccardsfan wrote: ↑08 May 2025 09:08 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 May 2025 08:57 am
bccardsfan wrote: ↑08 May 2025 08:52 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 May 2025 08:43 am
Great to see another Cardinals player w/speed who causes havoc on the basepaths in the spirit of L. Brock and V. Coleman!
He looks to have better hitting skills than Coleman, and not going to be Lou at the plate. We shall see. But 8 of 9 or 9 of 10 or whatever it is in the SB category, and scoring from first twice yesterday... and running down balls in the gap, and the leaping home run robbing catch.... fun to watch. I am enjoying the team because I love watching some kids develop and I don't expect them to do anything in the post season. MO will be gone too and then Bloom gets to build the team he wants. There are some good pieces here to build around.
Agreed bcc better than Coleman, not Brock level.
Having VSII along w/M. Winn it looks like C. Bloom has two "up the middle" pieces in place to build around w/J.J. coming soon to man 2B!
If only I. Hererra was a stud behind the plate, then we'd have one helluva up the middle for the next 10 years!
Yeah Rock, I am with you on all. IH can pick up a 1B mitt.... or DH and be the emergency catcher. He has a poor arm, so people are going to run on him no matter where he plays. 1B would be OK I guess. They need to find one more SP, a couple of BP pieces, and hope the JJ can really hit in the bigs and play 3B. Saggese can hit, but his arm is not really suited for the left side, so he looks like a second baseman from my small sample size view. My preference is for a lineup of guys like Donnie, who put the ball in play. One or two boppers is all you need. Jack Clark and the seven dwarves as it were (I guess 8 with the stupid DH rule). Not sure who the young bopper will be yet. Unfortunately not looking like Gorman or Walker right now, but they have time. Not sure IH is a real power hitter. We will know by the end of the season. He has shown the flashes. They are going to need one more everyday player who hits for power to go with the guys like Donovan, Winn, VSII and maybe Saggese and who ever else. WC will not be here that much longer. JJ is the wild card. He could blossom or he could turn into Gorman or Walker. But there are pieces here to build a pretty good and fairly young team around.
Herrera is a perfect DH candidate, could even learn 1B or the OF.
What is really missing is that MOTO thunder, a big bat that can hit 30+ HR's and drive in 100 runs.
That hitter isn't on the current team or in our system, he'll have to come via trade or FA.
My hope is J.J., the first #1 to be fully developed under the C. Bloom player development system, won't fall to the wayside like so many have under Mo's leadership.
Once S. Gray's deal is off the books ($35M in 2026), Bloom should have the dry powder to ink a true FOTR starter to go w/Libby giving the Cardinals a solid 1-2 punch. McGreevy, Mathews, ect....hurlers can then fill out the rotation.
The future looks solid to me, but ONLY if BDWJr commits the payroll ($175+M) Bloom will need to build a contender.
If Bill goes cheap, then lean times will be here to stay.
You don't think Ivan the terrible can hit 30 bombs?
I don't.
I remember some on here practically guaranteeing us that the UniKKKorn was going to hit 40 HR's and J. Walker would hit 30.
I see Ivan being a .300 hitter w/a .800-.850 OPS and somewhere in the low 20's HR area.
Maybe in a career year he tops 30?
4 HRs in 21 ABs
I hope you're right!
BUT
T. Edman
8 HR in 111 AB's
He's not hitting 30 HR's either
LMAO. TGTE isn't Ivan the terrible
5'9' 190 #'s vs 5'11' 220
What!
You mean all the hype I've been reading out LA saying he's the new "Joe Morgan" isn't true?

Re: 'Vic' speed getting national attention
Posted: 09 May 2025 09:15 am
by scoutyjones2
rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 May 2025 09:01 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 May 2025 08:53 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 May 2025 08:42 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑08 May 2025 15:25 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 May 2025 14:30 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑08 May 2025 14:10 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 May 2025 10:58 am
bccardsfan wrote: ↑08 May 2025 09:08 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 May 2025 08:57 am
bccardsfan wrote: ↑08 May 2025 08:52 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑08 May 2025 08:43 am
Great to see another Cardinals player w/speed who causes havoc on the basepaths in the spirit of L. Brock and V. Coleman!
He looks to have better hitting skills than Coleman, and not going to be Lou at the plate. We shall see. But 8 of 9 or 9 of 10 or whatever it is in the SB category, and scoring from first twice yesterday... and running down balls in the gap, and the leaping home run robbing catch.... fun to watch. I am enjoying the team because I love watching some kids develop and I don't expect them to do anything in the post season. MO will be gone too and then Bloom gets to build the team he wants. There are some good pieces here to build around.
Agreed bcc better than Coleman, not Brock level.
Having VSII along w/M. Winn it looks like C. Bloom has two "up the middle" pieces in place to build around w/J.J. coming soon to man 2B!
If only I. Hererra was a stud behind the plate, then we'd have one helluva up the middle for the next 10 years!
Yeah Rock, I am with you on all. IH can pick up a 1B mitt.... or DH and be the emergency catcher. He has a poor arm, so people are going to run on him no matter where he plays. 1B would be OK I guess. They need to find one more SP, a couple of BP pieces, and hope the JJ can really hit in the bigs and play 3B. Saggese can hit, but his arm is not really suited for the left side, so he looks like a second baseman from my small sample size view. My preference is for a lineup of guys like Donnie, who put the ball in play. One or two boppers is all you need. Jack Clark and the seven dwarves as it were (I guess 8 with the stupid DH rule). Not sure who the young bopper will be yet. Unfortunately not looking like Gorman or Walker right now, but they have time. Not sure IH is a real power hitter. We will know by the end of the season. He has shown the flashes. They are going to need one more everyday player who hits for power to go with the guys like Donovan, Winn, VSII and maybe Saggese and who ever else. WC will not be here that much longer. JJ is the wild card. He could blossom or he could turn into Gorman or Walker. But there are pieces here to build a pretty good and fairly young team around.
Herrera is a perfect DH candidate, could even learn 1B or the OF.
What is really missing is that MOTO thunder, a big bat that can hit 30+ HR's and drive in 100 runs.
That hitter isn't on the current team or in our system, he'll have to come via trade or FA.
My hope is J.J., the first #1 to be fully developed under the C. Bloom player development system, won't fall to the wayside like so many have under Mo's leadership.
Once S. Gray's deal is off the books ($35M in 2026), Bloom should have the dry powder to ink a true FOTR starter to go w/Libby giving the Cardinals a solid 1-2 punch. McGreevy, Mathews, ect....hurlers can then fill out the rotation.
The future looks solid to me, but ONLY if BDWJr commits the payroll ($175+M) Bloom will need to build a contender.
If Bill goes cheap, then lean times will be here to stay.
You don't think Ivan the terrible can hit 30 bombs?
TGTE is injured...an ankle sprain has morphed into an unknown return like his wrist was...
I don't.
I remember some on here practically guaranteeing us that the UniKKKorn was going to hit 40 HR's and J. Walker would hit 30.
I see Ivan being a .300 hitter w/a .800-.850 OPS and somewhere in the low 20's HR area.
Maybe in a career year he tops 30?
4 HRs in 21 ABs
I hope you're right!
BUT
T. Edman
8 HR in 111 AB's
He's not hitting 30 HR's either
LMAO. TGTE isn't Ivan the terrible
5'9' 190 #'s vs 5'11' 220
What!
You mean all the hype I've been reading out LA saying he's the new "Joe Morgan" isn't true?