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Re: We are getting close to buyers territory

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theograce wrote: 28 Feb 2025 11:04 am
Red7 wrote: 28 Feb 2025 11:01 am The Blues are in a unique position where by being sellers, they can improve the team in both the near and long term. They have an abundance of depth-type players teams look for at the deadline. Replace them with Dvorsky, Snuggerud, Stenberg et al. They also have guys like MacMac at Springfield that could cover some minutes. If they could move a Leddy, a Texia, that would be very good.
Having a bunch of young players/rookies step in for veterans doesn’t translate to success on a team like this.

And the blues situation is not unique at all.
It can if those players elevate the talent and energy level, which they would. Are you going to argue that Dvorsky would NOT be an upgrade over Sunny? That Snuggerrud wouldn’t be an upgrade over Toropchenko and his one goal? That Stenberg wouldn’t be an upgrade over Joseph? Or any other combination of guys? Now, would those changes have the team poised for a Cup run? Obviously not. But, I’d take my chances on making the playoffs with those guys…
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Re: We are getting close to buyers territory

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Red7 wrote: 28 Feb 2025 17:17 pm
theograce wrote: 28 Feb 2025 11:04 am
Red7 wrote: 28 Feb 2025 11:01 am The Blues are in a unique position where by being sellers, they can improve the team in both the near and long term. They have an abundance of depth-type players teams look for at the deadline. Replace them with Dvorsky, Snuggerud, Stenberg et al. They also have guys like MacMac at Springfield that could cover some minutes. If they could move a Leddy, a Texia, that would be very good.
Having a bunch of young players/rookies step in for veterans doesn’t translate to success on a team like this.

And the blues situation is not unique at all.
It can if those players elevate the talent and energy level, which they would. Are you going to argue that Dvorsky would NOT be an upgrade over Sunny? That Snuggerrud wouldn’t be an upgrade over Toropchenko and his one goal? That Stenberg wouldn’t be an upgrade over Joseph? Or any other combination of guys? Now, would those changes have the team poised for a Cup run? Obviously not. But, I’d take my chances on making the playoffs with those guys…
I’m talking the Schenn’s of the team, but yeah it often takes years for boys to figure it out … and then when they think they do…they get into the playoffs and realize it’s a different game. It’s not just about talent. Every team has prospects like this.
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Re: We are getting close to buyers territory

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I’m talking about the team’s bottom six guys. By every indication, the three guys I mentioned could contribute immediately. Not necessarily Top 6, but contribute. When you have Sunny on your second PPU, you’re not asking that much from those young guys.
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Re: We are getting close to buyers territory

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Red7 wrote: 28 Feb 2025 17:43 pm I’m talking about the team’s bottom six guys. By every indication, the three guys I mentioned could contribute immediately. Not necessarily Top 6, but contribute. When you have Sunny on your second PPU, you’re not asking that much from those young guys.
Maybe maybe not. You need talent and the right mix around you. Can’t just plug a bunch of skill boys in the bottom 6. Energy lines won’t fear that very much.
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smegma wrote: 28 Feb 2025 01:02 am
Inglewood Jack wrote: 27 Feb 2025 23:43 pm
Red7 wrote: 27 Feb 2025 22:52 pm
theograce wrote: 27 Feb 2025 21:18 pm
Red7 wrote: 27 Feb 2025 21:16 pm Actually, I could see them moving some people to pick up some picks and cap space…but more importantly, open up some spots for an infusion of young talent and energy.
That’s a seller not a buyer.
Exactly. I still think they sell, but will add from within.There’s nothing really out there for this team to add that they don’t already have.
I really do not see the Blues being buyers for 2 reasons.

I doubt an acquisition or two puts this team into a serious threat position, so why waste assets (1) in a trade for a potential playoff run that may be short, if at all (2)?

The Blues will stick towards building and developing a team this year IMO and will ride with the current team. Then again I could be completely misguided.
The current team could play well enough to go deep, they are playing well! With the current assets. Making a change now could change the outcome. Why change?
Exactly and trending.....
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I'd rather they be a stand pat and do nothing team.
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Red7 wrote: 28 Feb 2025 17:17 pm
theograce wrote: 28 Feb 2025 11:04 am
Red7 wrote: 28 Feb 2025 11:01 am The Blues are in a unique position where by being sellers, they can improve the team in both the near and long term. They have an abundance of depth-type players teams look for at the deadline. Replace them with Dvorsky, Snuggerud, Stenberg et al. They also have guys like MacMac at Springfield that could cover some minutes. If they could move a Leddy, a Texia, that would be very good.
Having a bunch of young players/rookies step in for veterans doesn’t translate to success on a team like this.

And the blues situation is not unique at all.
It can if those players elevate the talent and energy level, which they would. Are you going to argue that Dvorsky would NOT be an upgrade over Sunny? That Snuggerrud wouldn’t be an upgrade over Toropchenko and his one goal? That Stenberg wouldn’t be an upgrade over Joseph? Or any other combination of guys? Now, would those changes have the team poised for a Cup run? Obviously not. But, I’d take my chances on making the playoffs with those guys…
The Blues won't be jettisoning veterans and replacing with kids this week Army may trade a guy that wouldnt surprise me but bringing up a kid now won't make the team better. If the Blues were dead in the water I'd say all day long bring in Kaskamaki, DD whoever but none of those guys are ready for a 6 game trip and playoff push
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Red7 wrote: 28 Feb 2025 17:43 pm I’m talking about the team’s bottom six guys. By every indication, the three guys I mentioned could contribute immediately. Not necessarily Top 6, but contribute. When you have Sunny on your second PPU, you’re not asking that much from those young guys.
The bottom 6 is actually playing well the Blues do need to upgrade the center positions but no need to disrupt the chemistry
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Re: We are getting close to buyers territory

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Harry S Deals wrote: 02 Mar 2025 09:16 am
Red7 wrote: 28 Feb 2025 17:17 pm
theograce wrote: 28 Feb 2025 11:04 am
Red7 wrote: 28 Feb 2025 11:01 am The Blues are in a unique position where by being sellers, they can improve the team in both the near and long term. They have an abundance of depth-type players teams look for at the deadline. Replace them with Dvorsky, Snuggerud, Stenberg et al. They also have guys like MacMac at Springfield that could cover some minutes. If they could move a Leddy, a Texia, that would be very good.
Having a bunch of young players/rookies step in for veterans doesn’t translate to success on a team like this.

And the blues situation is not unique at all.
It can if those players elevate the talent and energy level, which they would. Are you going to argue that Dvorsky would NOT be an upgrade over Sunny? That Snuggerrud wouldn’t be an upgrade over Toropchenko and his one goal? That Stenberg wouldn’t be an upgrade over Joseph? Or any other combination of guys? Now, would those changes have the team poised for a Cup run? Obviously not. But, I’d take my chances on making the playoffs with those guys…
The Blues won't be jettisoning veterans and replacing with kids this week Army may trade a guy that wouldnt surprise me but bringing up a kid now won't make the team better. If the Blues were dead in the water I'd say all day long bring in Kaskamaki, DD whoever but none of those guys are ready for a 6 game trip and playoff push
Stand pat unless it is a multi year player that improves the skill.
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The only way I'd bring up a young guy would be if the decision has already been made to trade Schenn because somebody decided to get stupid with their offer. I'd bring DD up at that junction.
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TAFKAP wrote: 02 Mar 2025 10:25 am The only way I'd bring up a young guy would be if the decision has already been made to trade Schenn because somebody decided to get stupid with their offer. I'd bring DD up at that junction.
In betcha they promote Alexandrov before anyone else maybe give Dalibor at taste at some.point but I don't think DD is answer right now
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Re: We are getting close to buyers territory

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Harry S Deals wrote: 02 Mar 2025 09:19 am
Red7 wrote: 28 Feb 2025 17:43 pm I’m talking about the team’s bottom six guys. By every indication, the three guys I mentioned could contribute immediately. Not necessarily Top 6, but contribute. When you have Sunny on your second PPU, you’re not asking that much from those young guys.
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The bottom 6 is actually playing well the Blues do need to upgrade the center positions but no need to disrupt the chemistry
The bottom 6 has like 25 goals among them. They’re not going to trade the ENTIRE bottom six, but they definitely COULD trade 2-3 of them. It’s a long shot push for the playoffs, not a Stanley Cup run. It’s a great opportunity for the team and the kids. There’s really no pressure. Chemistry? This team hasn’t had chemistry all year. They shouldn’t let the gleam from the last 4 games blind them to that.
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theograce wrote: 27 Feb 2025 20:36 pm Everyone is gonna be loading up.

I’m excited to see who we buy.

This such a great time to be a Blues fan.
Of course this stretch has been surprising. But this streak has your sarcasm from back then looking kind of prophetic now.
Sure, the Blues could still flame out, but the direction of the team moving into the future looks a lot better than it did a few weeks ago regardless of how things finish up this season. There are some good, young players on this team.
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theograce wrote: 27 Feb 2025 21:48 pm Not one suggestion?

You guys are hoping for a playoff spot with the team as is?

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Re: We are getting close to buyers territory

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MikoTython wrote: 30 Mar 2025 13:37 pm
theograce wrote: 27 Feb 2025 21:48 pm Not one suggestion?

You guys are hoping for a playoff spot with the team as is?

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This is the one I remember...
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Re: We are getting close to buyers territory

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b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: 30 Mar 2025 13:01 pm
theograce wrote: 27 Feb 2025 20:36 pm Everyone is gonna be loading up.

I’m excited to see who we buy.

This such a great time to be a Blues fan.
Of course this stretch has been surprising. But this streak has your sarcasm from back then looking kind of prophetic now.
Sure, the Blues could still flame out, but the direction of the team moving into the future looks a lot better than it did a few weeks ago regardless of how things finish up this season. There are some good, young players on this team.
I don’t see them flaming out. The structure and belief is there.
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