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craviduce wrote: ↑07 May 2025 08:19 am MLB.com releases their Full 1st Round mock. Their first since December.

good analysis and insight as to how the Teams are leaning. Some teams are obvious with their wants/desires/strategies....the Angels for example, made it known they were looking for a big UnderSlot deal with a College pitcher....now MLB.com is reporting/suggesting they're targeting LHP. Arnold wouldn't be underslot, not a lot, but Doyle and Anderson would be. The Guardians were tied to 2 players last season, Bazzana and Wetherholt, and no one else.

I like reading mocks like this...you get an idea of how teams think....it's not set in stone they'll draft like this. You'll start to see other mocks from other pundits soon

LHP Jamie Arnold, FSU, falls to us ...

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-pipeline-2 ... raft-may-6

note ~ LaViolette was 1-18, 9 K's last week if you include A&M's Tuesday night game. Consensus around the mocks/pundits/scouts(who report to teams) is he's extremely streaky with an Aluminum Bat, and that would likely be exasperated with a Wooden Bat. So far, he likes even Months like April, the 4th month. Struggles in the Odd Months.

Othawhitemeat wrote: ↑07 May 2025 08:44 am

craviduce wrote: ↑07 May 2025 08:19 am MLB.com releases their Full 1st Round mock. Their first since December.

good analysis and insight as to how the Teams are leaning. Some teams are obvious with their wants/desires/strategies....the Angels for example, made it known they were looking for a big UnderSlot deal with a College pitcher....now MLB.com is reporting/suggesting they're targeting LHP. Arnold wouldn't be underslot, not a lot, but Doyle and Anderson would be. The Guardians were tied to 2 players last season, Bazzana and Wetherholt, and no one else.

I like reading mocks like this...you get an idea of how teams think....it's not set in stone they'll draft like this. You'll start to see other mocks from other pundits soon

LHP Jamie Arnold, FSU, falls to us ...

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-pipeline-2 ... raft-may-6

note ~ LaViolette was 1-18, 9 K's last week if you include A&M's Tuesday night game. Consensus around the mocks/pundits/scouts(who report to teams) is he's extremely streaky with an Aluminum Bat, and that would likely be exasperated with a Wooden Bat. So far, he likes even Months like April, the 4th month. Struggles in the Odd Months.

Would be super stoked with Arnold. If did not get him, would love if Hernandez or Holliday slid down (doubtful)

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2025 17:06 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑30 Apr 2025 16:46 pm mocks are pouring in now, finally

Prospects Live ~ Eli Willits, SS, Ft. Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla.



paywall for the write up, sorry.

If the top 4 fell like this Crav, are you taking Willits at #5 or someone else? Love reading your insights. Thanks!

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:31 am I'm having a tough time with this draft.

Last season I was all in on JJ at a fairly early stage. But man...this one is tough. I mean, high school kids are tough to predict. And with the college pitchers...well...guys like Thompson & Hjerpe have me a little gun-shy.

It's unreasonable I know...but...I tend to like the safe, near sure-thing type of pick. I don't see that this year. Hope I'm wrong.

TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑08 May 2025 10:21 am Duce- (I think) you've said there is no Hagen Smith or Chase Burns type of pitcher in this draft. Do Doyle, Arnold or Hernandez have "Ace" type potential or are these guys all likely solid MLB pitchers that at best could slot in at 3 in an MLB rotation?

craviduce wrote: ↑08 May 2025 06:54 am New York Times , Keith Law

New Mock

1. Nationals ~ Ethan Holliday, SS/3B, Corona HS, Calif
2. Angels ~ Liam Doyle, LHP, Tennessee
3. Mariners ~ Aiva Arquette, SS, Oregon State
4. Rockies ~ Jamie Arnold, LHP, Florida State
5. Cards ~ Kyson Witherspoon, RHP, Oklahoma
6. Pirates ~ Seth Hernandez, RHP, Corona HS, Calif
7. Miami ~ Eli Willits, SS, Ft Cobb-Broxton, Okla.
8. Blue Jays ~ Billy Carlson, SS, Corona HS, Calif.
9. Reds ~ Kade Anderson, LHP, LSU
10. White Sox ~ JoJo Parker, SS, Purvis HS, Mississippi
11. A's ~ Jace LaViolette, CF, Texas A&M
12. Rangers ~ Wehiwa Aloy, SS, Arkansas
13. Giants ~ Marek Houston, SS, WF
14. Rays ~ Gavin Fien, SS, Great Oak HS, Calif.
15. Red Sox ~ Brendan Summerhill, OF, Arizona


Law's pick analysis for the Cardinals. Good insight.

Player Profile
School: Oklahoma, Bats: R, Throws: R
I’m fairly confident we see at least four college pitchers taken in the top 10. I don’t think the Cardinals would be on any of the high schoolers in this range except Holliday in the unlikely event he got here. I think they’d take the best pitcher available over Arquette here, given who those arms are likely to be.

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we have now Callis and Law offering insight into what they're hearing each team is targeting, and in some cases "may" be targeting.
I'd expect this trend to continue.

Angels targeting Liam Doyle in both mocks. Underslot deal, and that fits the rumblings that Baseball America was talking about last week with their 2nd Staff Mock

craviduce wrote: ↑08 May 2025 09:14 am

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:31 am I'm having a tough time with this draft.

Last season I was all in on JJ at a fairly early stage. But man...this one is tough. I mean, high school kids are tough to predict. And with the college pitchers...well...guys like Thompson & Hjerpe have me a little gun-shy.

It's unreasonable I know...but...I tend to like the safe, near sure-thing type of pick. I don't see that this year. Hope I'm wrong.

you nailed it. It's a weak draft up top when the prospects are graded. It's tough picking #5 this year. Some of the cream is starting to rise to the top, but as for the Knee Knocking we got with the Top 8 picks last season....I'm thinking that draft was an anomaly.

This is a great draft to be drafting # 15-20.

I count on the Angels, Rockies, or the Mariners to cause one of the Top 4 to fall into our laps. Every team has their own drafting orders, and their draft history helps us figure that out. One of those teams will make a reach and draft UnderSlot.

I think or I'm counting on the Nationals drafting Holliday. Or he goes #3

Shady wrote: ↑08 May 2025 10:37 am

craviduce wrote: ↑08 May 2025 09:14 am

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:31 am I'm having a tough time with this draft.

Last season I was all in on JJ at a fairly early stage. But man...this one is tough. I mean, high school kids are tough to predict. And with the college pitchers...well...guys like Thompson & Hjerpe have me a little gun-shy.

It's unreasonable I know...but...I tend to like the safe, near sure-thing type of pick. I don't see that this year. Hope I'm wrong.

you nailed it. It's a weak draft up top when the prospects are graded. It's tough picking #5 this year. Some of the cream is starting to rise to the top, but as for the Knee Knocking we got with the Top 8 picks last season....I'm thinking that draft was an anomaly.

This is a great draft to be drafting # 15-20.

I count on the Angels, Rockies, or the Mariners to cause one of the Top 4 to fall into our laps. Every team has their own drafting orders, and their draft history helps us figure that out. One of those teams will make a reach and draft UnderSlot.

I think or I'm counting on the Nationals drafting Holliday. Or he goes #3

"I count on the Angels, Rockies, or the Mariners to cause one of the Top 4 to fall into our laps". craviduce, who would the other two be after Holliday and Arnold?

TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑08 May 2025 10:21 am Duce- (I think) you've said there is no Hagen Smith or Chase Burns type of pitcher in this draft. Do Doyle, Arnold or Hernandez have "Ace" type potential or are these guys all likely solid MLB pitchers that at best could slot in at 3 in an MLB rotation?

craviduce wrote: ↑08 May 2025 10:49 am

TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑08 May 2025 10:21 am Duce- (I think) you've said there is no Hagen Smith or Chase Burns type of pitcher in this draft. Do Doyle, Arnold or Hernandez have "Ace" type potential or are these guys all likely solid MLB pitchers that at best could slot in at 3 in an MLB rotation?

if you want an Ace type you can rally around come draft day....Kyson Witherspoon. He has the fiery presence/attitude that Chris Carpenter had. Quite fun to watch him come off the mound. I've enjoyed watching him pitch this year. His brother is the #2 starter for OU, quite the pair on the weekends for OU.

He's a RHP, so the appeal from pundits isn't there....they do love them some LHP.

Witherspoon is one of those picks where you wished you picked 8-10...you'd feel better about him there than 5....but I wouldn't be unhappy with him at 5 either.

Shady wrote: ↑08 May 2025 11:12 am

craviduce wrote: ↑08 May 2025 10:49 am

TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑08 May 2025 10:21 am Duce- (I think) you've said there is no Hagen Smith or Chase Burns type of pitcher in this draft. Do Doyle, Arnold or Hernandez have "Ace" type potential or are these guys all likely solid MLB pitchers that at best could slot in at 3 in an MLB rotation?

if you want an Ace type you can rally around come draft day....Kyson Witherspoon. He has the fiery presence/attitude that Chris Carpenter had. Quite fun to watch him come off the mound. I've enjoyed watching him pitch this year. His brother is the #2 starter for OU, quite the pair on the weekends for OU.

He's a RHP, so the appeal from pundits isn't there....they do love them some LHP.

Witherspoon is one of those picks where you wished you picked 8-10...you'd feel better about him there than 5....but I wouldn't be unhappy with him at 5 either.

Would you prefer Witherspoon over Arnold?