No need for closer tomorrow. 6 run victory.
GDT : Cards vs. DBacks (5/24) ~ 1:15pm CDT
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. DBacks (5/24) ~ 1:15pm CDT
Both MLB.com and ESPN have Helsley getting the Wcraviduce wrote: ↑24 May 2025 15:54 pmwinner should be Matz, yeah?vegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑24 May 2025 15:52 pm How does Helsley get the win and not that save there?
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. DBacks (5/24) ~ 1:15pm CDT
Scorer has that discretioncraviduce wrote: ↑24 May 2025 15:54 pmwinner should be Matz, yeah?vegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑24 May 2025 15:52 pm How does Helsley get the win and not that save there?
Re: GDT : Cards vs. DBacks (5/24) ~ 1:15pm CDT
Next time leave Libby in until he crosses 110 pitches or has 7 run lead.
Re: GDT : Cards vs. DBacks (5/24) ~ 1:15pm CDT
Good question. I thought Matz was the pitcher of record when they scored the winning run.vegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑24 May 2025 15:52 pm How does Helsley get the win and not that save there?
Re: GDT : Cards vs. DBacks (5/24) ~ 1:15pm CDT
Matz didn't pitch poorly. W should go to him.cbcardsfan wrote: ↑24 May 2025 15:54 pm Interesting. Official scorer gives Helsley the win, no save. Guess in his opinion, Matz didn’t pitch well enough to earn the win. Don’t see that scoring decision often.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. DBacks (5/24) ~ 1:15pm CDT
Arenado deserves the W
Re: GDT : Cards vs. DBacks (5/24) ~ 1:15pm CDT
We will get nothing of value for NA because of his contract. He won the game yesterday and tied it today plus defensive play in 9th.craviduce wrote: ↑24 May 2025 15:53 pmI loved the play, and realize we need to trade him. I also realize we have NOTHING remotely close to his defense in the minors. And there's no bat that can offset the drop in defense. So...it's a strange situation to be in.
With a reset of payroll, you need to shed that contract. Do it this offseason if you can, or maybe someone desperate comes a calling in July
Not happening. We don't need payroll savings
Re: GDT : Cards vs. DBacks (5/24) ~ 1:15pm CDT
No he didn't (comparatively), and yes it should.Bad14 wrote: ↑24 May 2025 15:56 pmMatz didn't pitch poorly. W should go to him.cbcardsfan wrote: ↑24 May 2025 15:54 pm Interesting. Official scorer gives Helsley the win, no save. Guess in his opinion, Matz didn’t pitch well enough to earn the win. Don’t see that scoring decision often.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. DBacks (5/24) ~ 1:15pm CDT
The official scorer has the right to make the decision to not give the win to the pitcher who last pitched before his team takes the lead. Don’t see it often.Bad14 wrote: ↑24 May 2025 15:56 pmMatz didn't pitch poorly. W should go to him.cbcardsfan wrote: ↑24 May 2025 15:54 pm Interesting. Official scorer gives Helsley the win, no save. Guess in his opinion, Matz didn’t pitch well enough to earn the win. Don’t see that scoring decision often.
Re: GDT : Cards vs. DBacks (5/24) ~ 1:15pm CDT
there ya go !
Re: GDT : Cards vs. DBacks (5/24) ~ 1:15pm CDT
Sure glad he wasn't selling insurance today. LOL
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. DBacks (5/24) ~ 1:15pm CDT
Also, I know Burleson and Walker tend to catch a lot of flack
They both stepped up when it mattered today
They both stepped up when it mattered today