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desertrat23 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 14:45 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 14:39 pm

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CCard wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 22:55 pm

CCard wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 19:52 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:38 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 17:01 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:33 pm

CCard wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 09:12 am

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 08:58 am

Listen to interviews with players after they win the WS. They often say “we came together as a team and that’s why we won it”.

LOL...What are they going to say? "Despite my teammates we still won. LOL Just stop. Evidence has already been cited. Just stop.

CC - To you too. Just stop. If you don’t understand how important character and team unity are, I can’t help you.

Of course it’s important. It’s not more important than finding the best talent.

Cerfolio says it’s about 50/50. The numbers have to be there to draw the interest before character due diligence takes place.

Cerfolio is the know all be all then? I'm relating stories of great teams that didn't get along. One of the oldest sayings in baseball is "Winning cures everything." You could have a team consisting of brothers and it wouldn't matter if they suck. If we don't have common sense then we're just wandering in the wilderness.

Cerfolio represents the modern, young, staff guy who knows what it takes to develop young players. He is a big part of the Cardinals future. If you don’t hear him on character and team adhesiveness, you’re really missing the boat.

There's always a young up and comer who thinks they invented the wheel and it always ends the same. Whatever happened to moneyball and Billy Beane? Young guys don't have the experience to run anything without expert knowledge from veterans that have done it. To put it bluntly, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Regardless, it's all about ownership anyway. He or Mo or the next guy up is chained to what DeWitt and company want. In the immortal words of Leon (from the Bud commercials) "Leon can't cook without that dough, baby." ((bleep) eating grin)

Suggest you look at Cerfolio's career over the past 10 years, and watch his interview which was posted on here. You might change your mind about him.

"THE INTERVIEW! THE INTERVIEW! OH DEAR GOD, WON'T YOU PLEASE WATCH THE INTERVIEW????"

Nothing like immaturity on display.

Sorry, but how many times have you brought up the bloody interview? It’s not life-changing.

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 21:18 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 19:24 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 19:19 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 19:09 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 18:34 pm

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 17:30 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 16:34 pm

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 15:51 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 15:13 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 14:56 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 14:23 pmSheesh, what a waste of time on a busy Monday.
Why don’t you look at the trades they have made that prove what BDW, Jr. was saying - Holliday, Ozuna, Goldy, Arenado, etc. They prefer trades to FA signings. They have ever since BDW, Jr. and other investors bought the team. When they strayed from it with Fowler, Leake, Cecil, etc. it only proved their point more.

No one is disputing that DeWitt said that. And no one is disputing that they prefer trades to FAs. What we’re saying is this:

1. You can’t be truly successful without being successful at a high level in the FA market in 2025.
2. If DeWitt and his team can’t hit on free agents when they do “stray,” they need to change their FA evaluation process and/or find people who CAN be successful at evaluating and signing free agents.

No. Actually what I see are several trades to fill any large holes. As I’ve said (sorry to be redundant again), the only FA action you’ll see are short term free agent contracts with relievers and with older guys aka Berkman and Beltran. But huge long term FA contracts for guys in their prime? - Naw. Not going to happen.

If you were less disingenuous about the reasons for the above truths, you’d be met with less opposition.

They don’t have a real chance at signing top free agents, and cannot afford the risk of getting it wrong if they do.

Disingenuous? By telling the truth about what the Cardinals have said? LOL.

Yes… it’s a bit disingenuous to suggest the Cardinals aren’t signing top FA because they prefer to see how a player fits with the team. They aren’t signing top FAs because it’s not financially prudent in their market. That is the only real reason.

The Cardinals have had a different business plan than your FA plan for many years, Quincy. Build through the system and trade to fill holes as needed. It’s brought them a ton of winning seasons and 2 World Championships this century. Don’t expect it to change.

Why are BDW/MO more than happy to overpay on middling talent rather than put eggs in the Elite basket and fill in internally. An elite player or 2 HAS BEEN what put the Cards over the top when they won those 2 WS this Century

And where did those elite player or two come from?
Free agents that were bought?

Yes. 2006: Suppan, 2011: Berkman. I struggle to call those guys "elite," but they're what put the team over the top.

If the Cardinals signed guys like that today, CT would scour them.

Goldfan wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 16:19 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 21:18 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 19:24 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 19:19 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 19:09 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 18:34 pm

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 17:30 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 16:34 pm

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 15:51 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 15:13 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 14:56 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 14:23 pmSheesh, what a waste of time on a busy Monday.
Why don’t you look at the trades they have made that prove what BDW, Jr. was saying - Holliday, Ozuna, Goldy, Arenado, etc. They prefer trades to FA signings. They have ever since BDW, Jr. and other investors bought the team. When they strayed from it with Fowler, Leake, Cecil, etc. it only proved their point more.

No one is disputing that DeWitt said that. And no one is disputing that they prefer trades to FAs. What we’re saying is this:

1. You can’t be truly successful without being successful at a high level in the FA market in 2025.
2. If DeWitt and his team can’t hit on free agents when they do “stray,” they need to change their FA evaluation process and/or find people who CAN be successful at evaluating and signing free agents.

No. Actually what I see are several trades to fill any large holes. As I’ve said (sorry to be redundant again), the only FA action you’ll see are short term free agent contracts with relievers and with older guys aka Berkman and Beltran. But huge long term FA contracts for guys in their prime? - Naw. Not going to happen.

If you were less disingenuous about the reasons for the above truths, you’d be met with less opposition.

They don’t have a real chance at signing top free agents, and cannot afford the risk of getting it wrong if they do.

Disingenuous? By telling the truth about what the Cardinals have said? LOL.

Yes… it’s a bit disingenuous to suggest the Cardinals aren’t signing top FA because they prefer to see how a player fits with the team. They aren’t signing top FAs because it’s not financially prudent in their market. That is the only real reason.

The Cardinals have had a different business plan than your FA plan for many years, Quincy. Build through the system and trade to fill holes as needed. It’s brought them a ton of winning seasons and 2 World Championships this century. Don’t expect it to change.

Why are BDW/MO more than happy to overpay on middling talent rather than put eggs in the Elite basket and fill in internally. An elite player or 2 HAS BEEN what put the Cards over the top when they won those 2 WS this Century

And where did those elite player or two come from?
Free agents that were bought?

Yes. 2006: Suppan, 2011: Berkman. I struggle to call those guys "elite," but they're what put the team over the top.

If the Cardinals signed guys like that today, CT would scour them.

Berkman…..Beltran…..when’s the last time Mo signed a quality OFer of that level. Why would CT not be pleased with that type of player….yes a 30HR 100RBI OFer…..why would we need one of those….more than happy with the internal scrum of wannabes we’ve had the last decade. Does anyone even remember what a 30HR 100 RBI OFer looks like??

Cranny wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 16:02 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 14:45 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 14:39 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 13:37 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 13:01 pm

CCard wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 22:55 pm

CCard wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 19:52 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:38 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 17:01 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:33 pm

CCard wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 09:12 am

LOL...What are they going to say? "Despite my teammates we still won. LOL Just stop. Evidence has already been cited. Just stop.

CC - To you too. Just stop. If you don’t understand how important character and team unity are, I can’t help you.

Of course it’s important. It’s not more important than finding the best talent.

Cerfolio says it’s about 50/50. The numbers have to be there to draw the interest before character due diligence takes place.

Cerfolio is the know all be all then? I'm relating stories of great teams that didn't get along. One of the oldest sayings in baseball is "Winning cures everything." You could have a team consisting of brothers and it wouldn't matter if they suck. If we don't have common sense then we're just wandering in the wilderness.

Cerfolio represents the modern, young, staff guy who knows what it takes to develop young players. He is a big part of the Cardinals future. If you don’t hear him on character and team adhesiveness, you’re really missing the boat.

There's always a young up and comer who thinks they invented the wheel and it always ends the same. Whatever happened to moneyball and Billy Beane? Young guys don't have the experience to run anything without expert knowledge from veterans that have done it. To put it bluntly, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Regardless, it's all about ownership anyway. He or Mo or the next guy up is chained to what DeWitt and company want. In the immortal words of Leon (from the Bud commercials) "Leon can't cook without that dough, baby." ((bleep) eating grin)

Suggest you look at Cerfolio's career over the past 10 years, and watch his interview which was posted on here. You might change your mind about him.

"THE INTERVIEW! THE INTERVIEW! OH DEAR GOD, WON'T YOU PLEASE WATCH THE INTERVIEW????"

Nothing like immaturity on display.

Sorry, but how many times have you brought up the bloody interview? It’s not life-changing.

No, but it gives great insight into the lead person who is charged with developing minor leaguers into productive major leaguers. Maybe even All Star major leaguers. A far cry from the last person, whom I admired for many years, but the game had passed him by.

Goldfan wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 16:21 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 16:19 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 21:18 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 19:24 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 19:19 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 19:09 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 18:34 pm

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 17:30 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 16:34 pm

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 15:51 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 15:13 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 14:56 pm

No one is disputing that DeWitt said that. And no one is disputing that they prefer trades to FAs. What we’re saying is this:

1. You can’t be truly successful without being successful at a high level in the FA market in 2025.
2. If DeWitt and his team can’t hit on free agents when they do “stray,” they need to change their FA evaluation process and/or find people who CAN be successful at evaluating and signing free agents.

No. Actually what I see are several trades to fill any large holes. As I’ve said (sorry to be redundant again), the only FA action you’ll see are short term free agent contracts with relievers and with older guys aka Berkman and Beltran. But huge long term FA contracts for guys in their prime? - Naw. Not going to happen.

If you were less disingenuous about the reasons for the above truths, you’d be met with less opposition.

They don’t have a real chance at signing top free agents, and cannot afford the risk of getting it wrong if they do.

Disingenuous? By telling the truth about what the Cardinals have said? LOL.

Yes… it’s a bit disingenuous to suggest the Cardinals aren’t signing top FA because they prefer to see how a player fits with the team. They aren’t signing top FAs because it’s not financially prudent in their market. That is the only real reason.

The Cardinals have had a different business plan than your FA plan for many years, Quincy. Build through the system and trade to fill holes as needed. It’s brought them a ton of winning seasons and 2 World Championships this century. Don’t expect it to change.

Why are BDW/MO more than happy to overpay on middling talent rather than put eggs in the Elite basket and fill in internally. An elite player or 2 HAS BEEN what put the Cards over the top when they won those 2 WS this Century

And where did those elite player or two come from?
Free agents that were bought?

Yes. 2006: Suppan, 2011: Berkman. I struggle to call those guys "elite," but they're what put the team over the top.

If the Cardinals signed guys like that today, CT would scour them.

Berkman…..Beltran…..when’s the last time Mo signed a quality OFer of that level. Why would CT not be pleased with that type of player….yes a 30HR 100RBI OFer…..why would we need one of those….more than happy with the internal scrum of wannabes we’ve had the last decade. Does anyone even remember what a 30HR 100 RBI OFer looks like??

Almost HOF Berkman
2011
301, .412, .959 31HR 94RBI…..we’d all pass out to see that in a Cards OF

desertrat23 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 16:23 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 16:21 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 16:19 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 21:18 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 19:24 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 19:19 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 19:09 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 18:34 pm

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 17:30 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 16:34 pm

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 15:51 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025 15:13 pm

No. Actually what I see are several trades to fill any large holes. As I’ve said (sorry to be redundant again), the only FA action you’ll see are short term free agent contracts with relievers and with older guys aka Berkman and Beltran. But huge long term FA contracts for guys in their prime? - Naw. Not going to happen.

If you were less disingenuous about the reasons for the above truths, you’d be met with less opposition.

They don’t have a real chance at signing top free agents, and cannot afford the risk of getting it wrong if they do.

Disingenuous? By telling the truth about what the Cardinals have said? LOL.

Yes… it’s a bit disingenuous to suggest the Cardinals aren’t signing top FA because they prefer to see how a player fits with the team. They aren’t signing top FAs because it’s not financially prudent in their market. That is the only real reason.

The Cardinals have had a different business plan than your FA plan for many years, Quincy. Build through the system and trade to fill holes as needed. It’s brought them a ton of winning seasons and 2 World Championships this century. Don’t expect it to change.

Why are BDW/MO more than happy to overpay on middling talent rather than put eggs in the Elite basket and fill in internally. An elite player or 2 HAS BEEN what put the Cards over the top when they won those 2 WS this Century

And where did those elite player or two come from?
Free agents that were bought?

Yes. 2006: Suppan, 2011: Berkman. I struggle to call those guys "elite," but they're what put the team over the top.

If the Cardinals signed guys like that today, CT would scour them.

Berkman…..Beltran…..when’s the last time Mo signed a quality OFer of that level. Why would CT not be pleased with that type of player….yes a 30HR 100RBI OFer…..why would we need one of those….more than happy with the internal scrum of wannabes we’ve had the last decade. Does anyone even remember what a 30HR 100 RBI OFer looks like??

Almost HOF Berkman
2011
301, .412, .959 31HR 94RBI…..we’d all pass out to see that in a Cards OF

Totally. But to be fair to Cranny, Berkman didn't look like that guy after 2010 with the Yankees.

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 13:59 pm

CCard wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 08:35 amThere's always a young up and comer who thinks they invented the wheel and it always ends the same. Whatever happened to moneyball and Billy Beane? Young guys don't have the experience to run anything without expert knowledge from veterans that have done it. To put it bluntly, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Regardless, it's all about ownership anyway. He or Mo or the next guy up is chained to what DeWitt and company want. In the immortal words of Leon (from the Bud commercials) "Leon can't cook without that dough, baby." ((bleep) eating grin)

I’m sure you know what you do not know, as the influence of moneyball is currently present throughout the major leagues.

Nobody has experience competing in the era of $700 million contracts - that might suggest you want someone that is not bound by conventional thinking.

I get it… you want an old, cigar smoking, scotch slugging “baseball man” that speaks in definitives… for no logical reason.

Cranny wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 13:01 pm

CCard wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 22:55 pm

CCard wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 19:52 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 18:38 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 17:01 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:33 pm

CCard wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 09:12 am

Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 08:58 am

CCard wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025 22:57 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 18:07 pm

CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 17:59 pm

I don't care if they live in the community or screw the neighbor's dog. I only care about the Cards winning. Nothing else matters. I don't watch the games because they're good neighbor's or fabulous people. That's just a silly way to load up a ballclub. Get the best players you can and win championships. I don't personally know any ball players. Do you? If they do something bad enough, you know, like take steroids or beat their wife, then ship their butts out and replace them. Otherwise, stay out of their personal lives and let them produce for the team.

As a matter of fact I do know some players. And they all talk about how important team chemistry is. Suggestion for you -
listen to the entirety of the Cerfolio interview that was post on here. Then come back and we can discuss how important character is when building a team that can win together.

You ever heard of the Oakland A's during the 70's? They fought like cats and dogs. Gene Tenace, Reggie Jackson, etc. World Series champions also. I'm sure Yadi and Albert ruffled a few feathers in the clubhouse. How'd that turn out. Chemistry is made up. Talent prevails. Anyone that blames chemistry is a wimp and a loser. You ain't paid to be friends or hug, you're paid to produce. Hell, there's lots of teams with great team chemistry that are perennial losers. It's a silly argument. Nothing affects team morale more than winning and losing.

Listen to interviews with players after they win the WS. They often say “we came together as a team and that’s why we won it”.

LOL...What are they going to say? "Despite my teammates we still won. LOL Just stop. Evidence has already been cited. Just stop.

CC - To you too. Just stop. If you don’t understand how important character and team unity are, I can’t help you.

Of course it’s important. It’s not more important than finding the best talent.

Cerfolio says it’s about 50/50. The numbers have to be there to draw the interest before character due diligence takes place.

Cerfolio is the know all be all then? I'm relating stories of great teams that didn't get along. One of the oldest sayings in baseball is "Winning cures everything." You could have a team consisting of brothers and it wouldn't matter if they suck. If we don't have common sense then we're just wandering in the wilderness.

Cerfolio represents the modern, young, staff guy who knows what it takes to develop young players. He is a big part of the Cardinals future. If you don’t hear him on character and team adhesiveness, you’re really missing the boat.

There's always a young up and comer who thinks they invented the wheel and it always ends the same. Whatever happened to moneyball and Billy Beane? Young guys don't have the experience to run anything without expert knowledge from veterans that have done it. To put it bluntly, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Regardless, it's all about ownership anyway. He or Mo or the next guy up is chained to what DeWitt and company want. In the immortal words of Leon (from the Bud commercials) "Leon can't cook without that dough, baby." ((bleep) eating grin)

Suggest you look at Cerfolio's career over the past 10 years, and watch his interview which was posted on here. You might change your mind about him.

CCard wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 11:43 am

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 13:59 pm

CCard wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 08:35 amThere's always a young up and comer who thinks they invented the wheel and it always ends the same. Whatever happened to moneyball and Billy Beane? Young guys don't have the experience to run anything without expert knowledge from veterans that have done it. To put it bluntly, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Regardless, it's all about ownership anyway. He or Mo or the next guy up is chained to what DeWitt and company want. In the immortal words of Leon (from the Bud commercials) "Leon can't cook without that dough, baby." ((bleep) eating grin)

I’m sure you know what you do not know, as the influence of moneyball is currently present throughout the major leagues.

Nobody has experience competing in the era of $700 million contracts - that might suggest you want someone that is not bound by conventional thinking.

I get it… you want an old, cigar smoking, scotch slugging “baseball man” that speaks in definitives… for no logical reason.

The whole point of the phrase "You don't know what you don't know." speaks for itself. No one knows what they don't know. That's the point. Anointing someone a genius new guy who can't possibly have been faced with all the situations and still speaks like an authority is folly.
Secondly, Nobody and I mean nobody said the Cards should go out and pay $700 million for a player. And only 1 or 2 teams could even do it. But they certainly fit the profile of a team that is sitting on plenty of resources but would rather cheap out instead of putting a good faith effort on the field for the "Best fans in baseball". LOL
Lastly, I don't care what a GM does, smoke, drink, fornicate, masturbate, imitate, hibernate etc. Until ownership gives the okay it wouldn't really matter. Say it with me, O-W-N-E-R-S-H-I-P! A GM can't walk on water unless ownership gives him the water to walk on.

CCard wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 11:43 am

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 13:59 pm

CCard wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 08:35 amThere's always a young up and comer who thinks they invented the wheel and it always ends the same. Whatever happened to moneyball and Billy Beane? Young guys don't have the experience to run anything without expert knowledge from veterans that have done it. To put it bluntly, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Regardless, it's all about ownership anyway. He or Mo or the next guy up is chained to what DeWitt and company want. In the immortal words of Leon (from the Bud commercials) "Leon can't cook without that dough, baby." ((bleep) eating grin)

I’m sure you know what you do not know, as the influence of moneyball is currently present throughout the major leagues.

Nobody has experience competing in the era of $700 million contracts - that might suggest you want someone that is not bound by conventional thinking.

I get it… you want an old, cigar smoking, scotch slugging “baseball man” that speaks in definitives… for no logical reason.

The whole point of the phrase "You don't know what you don't know." speaks for itself. No one knows what they don't know. That's the point. Anointing someone a genius new guy who can't possibly have been faced with all the situations and still speaks like an authority is folly.
Secondly, Nobody and I mean nobody said the Cards should go out and pay $700 million for a player. And only 1 or 2 teams could even do it. But they certainly fit the profile of a team that is sitting on plenty of resources but would rather cheap out instead of putting a good faith effort on the field for the "Best fans in baseball". LOL
Lastly, I don't care what a GM does, smoke, drink, fornicate, masturbate, imitate, hibernate etc. Until ownership gives the okay it wouldn't really matter. Say it with me, O-W-N-E-R-S-H-I-P! A GM can't walk on water unless ownership gives him the water to walk on.

CCard wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 11:43 am

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 13:59 pm

CCard wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 08:35 amThere's always a young up and comer who thinks they invented the wheel and it always ends the same. Whatever happened to moneyball and Billy Beane? Young guys don't have the experience to run anything without expert knowledge from veterans that have done it. To put it bluntly, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Regardless, it's all about ownership anyway. He or Mo or the next guy up is chained to what DeWitt and company want. In the immortal words of Leon (from the Bud commercials) "Leon can't cook without that dough, baby." ((bleep) eating grin)

I’m sure you know what you do not know, as the influence of moneyball is currently present throughout the major leagues.

Nobody has experience competing in the era of $700 million contracts - that might suggest you want someone that is not bound by conventional thinking.

I get it… you want an old, cigar smoking, scotch slugging “baseball man” that speaks in definitives… for no logical reason.

The whole point of the phrase "You don't know what you don't know." speaks for itself. No one knows what they don't know. That's the point. Anointing someone a genius new guy who can't possibly have been faced with all the situations and still speaks like an authority is folly.
Secondly, Nobody and I mean nobody said the Cards should go out and pay $700 million for a player. And only 1 or 2 teams could even do it. But they certainly fit the profile of a team that is sitting on plenty of resources but would rather cheap out instead of putting a good faith effort on the field for the "Best fans in baseball". LOL
Lastly, I don't care what a GM does, smoke, drink, fornicate, masturbate, imitate, hibernate etc. Until ownership gives the okay it wouldn't really matter. Say it with me, O-W-N-E-R-S-H-I-P! A GM can't walk on water unless ownership gives him the water to walk on.

Cranny wrote: ↑03 Jul 2025 09:15 am

CCard wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 11:43 am

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 13:59 pm

CCard wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 08:35 amThere's always a young up and comer who thinks they invented the wheel and it always ends the same. Whatever happened to moneyball and Billy Beane? Young guys don't have the experience to run anything without expert knowledge from veterans that have done it. To put it bluntly, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Regardless, it's all about ownership anyway. He or Mo or the next guy up is chained to what DeWitt and company want. In the immortal words of Leon (from the Bud commercials) "Leon can't cook without that dough, baby." ((bleep) eating grin)

I’m sure you know what you do not know, as the influence of moneyball is currently present throughout the major leagues.

Nobody has experience competing in the era of $700 million contracts - that might suggest you want someone that is not bound by conventional thinking.

I get it… you want an old, cigar smoking, scotch slugging “baseball man” that speaks in definitives… for no logical reason.

The whole point of the phrase "You don't know what you don't know." speaks for itself. No one knows what they don't know. That's the point. Anointing someone a genius new guy who can't possibly have been faced with all the situations and still speaks like an authority is folly.
Secondly, Nobody and I mean nobody said the Cards should go out and pay $700 million for a player. And only 1 or 2 teams could even do it. But they certainly fit the profile of a team that is sitting on plenty of resources but would rather cheap out instead of putting a good faith effort on the field for the "Best fans in baseball". LOL
Lastly, I don't care what a GM does, smoke, drink, fornicate, masturbate, imitate, hibernate etc. Until ownership gives the okay it wouldn't really matter. Say it with me, O-W-N-E-R-S-H-I-P! A GM can't walk on water unless ownership gives him the water to walk on.

Spoken like a true youngster.

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 14:25 pm

CCard wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 11:43 am

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 13:59 pm

CCard wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 08:35 amThere's always a young up and comer who thinks they invented the wheel and it always ends the same. Whatever happened to moneyball and Billy Beane? Young guys don't have the experience to run anything without expert knowledge from veterans that have done it. To put it bluntly, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Regardless, it's all about ownership anyway. He or Mo or the next guy up is chained to what DeWitt and company want. In the immortal words of Leon (from the Bud commercials) "Leon can't cook without that dough, baby." ((bleep) eating grin)

I’m sure you know what you do not know, as the influence of moneyball is currently present throughout the major leagues.

Nobody has experience competing in the era of $700 million contracts - that might suggest you want someone that is not bound by conventional thinking.

I get it… you want an old, cigar smoking, scotch slugging “baseball man” that speaks in definitives… for no logical reason.

The whole point of the phrase "You don't know what you don't know." speaks for itself. No one knows what they don't know. That's the point. Anointing someone a genius new guy who can't possibly have been faced with all the situations and still speaks like an authority is folly.
Secondly, Nobody and I mean nobody said the Cards should go out and pay $700 million for a player. And only 1 or 2 teams could even do it. But they certainly fit the profile of a team that is sitting on plenty of resources but would rather cheap out instead of putting a good faith effort on the field for the "Best fans in baseball". LOL
Lastly, I don't care what a GM does, smoke, drink, fornicate, masturbate, imitate, hibernate etc. Until ownership gives the okay it wouldn't really matter. Say it with me, O-W-N-E-R-S-H-I-P! A GM can't walk on water unless ownership gives him the water to walk on.

You have it all figured out.

CCard wrote: ↑03 Jul 2025 15:01 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑03 Jul 2025 09:15 am

CCard wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 11:43 am

Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 13:59 pm

CCard wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 08:35 amThere's always a young up and comer who thinks they invented the wheel and it always ends the same. Whatever happened to moneyball and Billy Beane? Young guys don't have the experience to run anything without expert knowledge from veterans that have done it. To put it bluntly, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Regardless, it's all about ownership anyway. He or Mo or the next guy up is chained to what DeWitt and company want. In the immortal words of Leon (from the Bud commercials) "Leon can't cook without that dough, baby." ((bleep) eating grin)

I’m sure you know what you do not know, as the influence of moneyball is currently present throughout the major leagues.

Nobody has experience competing in the era of $700 million contracts - that might suggest you want someone that is not bound by conventional thinking.

I get it… you want an old, cigar smoking, scotch slugging “baseball man” that speaks in definitives… for no logical reason.

The whole point of the phrase "You don't know what you don't know." speaks for itself. No one knows what they don't know. That's the point. Anointing someone a genius new guy who can't possibly have been faced with all the situations and still speaks like an authority is folly.
Secondly, Nobody and I mean nobody said the Cards should go out and pay $700 million for a player. And only 1 or 2 teams could even do it. But they certainly fit the profile of a team that is sitting on plenty of resources but would rather cheap out instead of putting a good faith effort on the field for the "Best fans in baseball". LOL
Lastly, I don't care what a GM does, smoke, drink, fornicate, masturbate, imitate, hibernate etc. Until ownership gives the okay it wouldn't really matter. Say it with me, O-W-N-E-R-S-H-I-P! A GM can't walk on water unless ownership gives him the water to walk on.

Spoken like a true youngster.

LOL...I'm 63 and have been watching baseball since I was 15. At least I know what I don't know. I learned more from listening to Jack Buck than you'll probably ever know about baseball. Follow your "Young genius" if you want, just ignore facts. It seems facts don't matter anymore anyway.