GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Join the discussion about the Blues.

[Complete Blues coverage on STLtoday.com]

Moderators: STLtoday Forum Moderators, Blues Talk Moderators

Post Reply
Kilokaai
Forum User
Posts: 38
Joined: 09 Jun 2024 22:01 pm

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by Kilokaai »

If we could find a way to stop scoring on ourselves and make the Jets score I think this would be more interesting. The Suter goal last game and Snuggy tonight are really hurting our momentum when we do have some.
STL fan in MN
Forum User
Posts: 1811
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:57 pm

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by STL fan in MN »

JoshInFenton wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:12 pm I can say after this one i wouldn't give Tucker another look unless we have an injured defensemen. He looked allergic to the puck at times, and the pressure of the big stage suddenly looked to swallow him up a few times over. I'd rather Kessel if we are going 7, but honestly just put joseph out there so we don't have to juggle lines so much.
I don’t get that move honestly. Was Joseph injured? Or maybe a d-man or two are dinged up and Monty wanted insurance on the blue line? Just don’t like going 11 and 7 unless absolutely necessary.

How in the doghouse must Texier be to still not get in? Either way, I hope they go back with the traditional 12 and 6 next game.

Blues lack of depth showing here..
BlueGhost
Forum User
Posts: 108
Joined: 24 Jun 2024 22:03 pm

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by BlueGhost »

Both goals tonight Binny was interfered with by his own players
morley1
Forum User
Posts: 20
Joined: 01 Jun 2024 13:57 pm

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by morley1 »

the absence of holloway REALLY enforces the blues need for a 2c. not sure if dalibor is ready to be thrown in the deep end, but last two weeks have shown that holloway and kyrou were also having to pull along the corpse of brayden schenn, who has done basically nothing since holloway went out.
DawgDad
Forum User
Posts: 6664
Joined: 16 May 2019 10:58 am

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by DawgDad »

Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:14 pm The Jets are good…let’s not act like they aren’t a good team because of past failures. Right now their best players have been better then our best players. You are never in trouble until you lose on home ice, but I’d say the Blues are definitely in trouble. I haven’t seen enough buy in and willing to pay the price for 60 mins. Parayko is terrible right now…no way he should be on the ice with the goalie pulled…puck looked like a live grenade on his stick.
If the Jets had Ehlers and Villardi this is likely a sweep.
Come on now, if the Blues had Holloway it might be 2-0 the other way. You're better than that, really.

Otherwise, they contained Thomas and Kyrou, Blues left Connor alone in the slot. It's not like the Blues are losing 4-1. Line matchups in St. Louis and a bit of crowd adrenaline could tip the scales. We'll see.
desertrat23
Forum User
Posts: 844
Joined: 28 May 2024 18:12 pm

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by desertrat23 »

DawgDad wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:22 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:14 pm The Jets are good…let’s not act like they aren’t a good team because of past failures. Right now their best players have been better then our best players. You are never in trouble until you lose on home ice, but I’d say the Blues are definitely in trouble. I haven’t seen enough buy in and willing to pay the price for 60 mins. Parayko is terrible right now…no way he should be on the ice with the goalie pulled…puck looked like a live grenade on his stick.
If the Jets had Ehlers and Villardi this is likely a sweep.
Come on now, if the Blues had Holloway it might be 2-0 the other way. You're better than that, really.

Otherwise, they contained Thomas and Kyrou, Blues left Connor alone in the slot. It's not like the Blues are losing 4-1. Line matchups in St. Louis and a bit of crowd adrenaline could tip the scales. We'll see.
Dylan Holloway is a very good young player, but he’s not the reason it’s 2-0.
DawgDad
Forum User
Posts: 6664
Joined: 16 May 2019 10:58 am

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by DawgDad »

desertrat23 wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:23 pm
DawgDad wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:22 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:14 pm The Jets are good…let’s not act like they aren’t a good team because of past failures. Right now their best players have been better then our best players. You are never in trouble until you lose on home ice, but I’d say the Blues are definitely in trouble. I haven’t seen enough buy in and willing to pay the price for 60 mins. Parayko is terrible right now…no way he should be on the ice with the goalie pulled…puck looked like a live grenade on his stick.
If the Jets had Ehlers and Villardi this is likely a sweep.
Come on now, if the Blues had Holloway it might be 2-0 the other way. You're better than that, really.

Otherwise, they contained Thomas and Kyrou, Blues left Connor alone in the slot. It's not like the Blues are losing 4-1. Line matchups in St. Louis and a bit of crowd adrenaline could tip the scales. We'll see.
Dylan Holloway is a very good young player, but he’s not the reason it’s 2-0.
Really, now. You know this . . . How?

I was not whining over the Blues not having Holloway, I was pointing out the one-sided slant in the comment re: the absence of Ehlers and Villardi.
sdaltons
Forum User
Posts: 2773
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:45 pm

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by sdaltons »

The Jets lost 7 games in regulation in their building. We went in there and lost 2 games by 1 goal each and scored goals on ourselves in each game.

As someone who consistently said I didn't think they'd make the playoffs...🤷‍♂️

It's all gravy at this point. Keep letting the kids experience the playoff atmosphere, including Tucker. It'll all be worth it down the road.
Pierre McGuire
Forum User
Posts: 1465
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:10 pm

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by Pierre McGuire »

DawgDad wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:22 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:14 pm The Jets are good…let’s not act like they aren’t a good team because of past failures. Right now their best players have been better then our best players. You are never in trouble until you lose on home ice, but I’d say the Blues are definitely in trouble. I haven’t seen enough buy in and willing to pay the price for 60 mins. Parayko is terrible right now…no way he should be on the ice with the goalie pulled…puck looked like a live grenade on his stick.
If the Jets had Ehlers and Villardi this is likely a sweep.
Come on now, if the Blues had Holloway it might be 2-0 the other way. You're better than that, really.

Otherwise, they contained Thomas and Kyrou, Blues left Connor alone in the slot. It's not like the Blues are losing 4-1. Line matchups in St. Louis and a bit of crowd adrenaline could tip the scales. We'll see.
Better than what? Those are my observations.
tubastarr
Forum User
Posts: 49
Joined: 20 Jan 2025 17:41 pm

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by tubastarr »

Kilokaai wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:17 pm If we could find a way to stop scoring on ourselves and make the Jets score I think this would be more interesting. The Suter goal last game and Snuggy tonight are really hurting our momentum when we do have some.
Parayko interferred with Binner on the Jets second goal. He knocked Binner’s stick away as Binner tried to move the other direction to stop the shot. Both Jets goals were helped by our own players. It’s the only way the Jets could score tonight.
desertrat23
Forum User
Posts: 844
Joined: 28 May 2024 18:12 pm

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by desertrat23 »

DawgDad wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:28 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:23 pm
DawgDad wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:22 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:14 pm The Jets are good…let’s not act like they aren’t a good team because of past failures. Right now their best players have been better then our best players. You are never in trouble until you lose on home ice, but I’d say the Blues are definitely in trouble. I haven’t seen enough buy in and willing to pay the price for 60 mins. Parayko is terrible right now…no way he should be on the ice with the goalie pulled…puck looked like a live grenade on his stick.
If the Jets had Ehlers and Villardi this is likely a sweep.
Come on now, if the Blues had Holloway it might be 2-0 the other way. You're better than that, really.

Otherwise, they contained Thomas and Kyrou, Blues left Connor alone in the slot. It's not like the Blues are losing 4-1. Line matchups in St. Louis and a bit of crowd adrenaline could tip the scales. We'll see.
Dylan Holloway is a very good young player, but he’s not the reason it’s 2-0.
Really, now. You know this . . . How?

I was not whining over the Blues not having Holloway, I was pointing out the one-sided slant in the comment re: the absence of Ehlers and Villardi.
I know this because I’m looking at the series objectively.
Pierre McGuire
Forum User
Posts: 1465
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:10 pm

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by Pierre McGuire »

DawgDad wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:28 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:23 pm
DawgDad wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:22 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:14 pm The Jets are good…let’s not act like they aren’t a good team because of past failures. Right now their best players have been better then our best players. You are never in trouble until you lose on home ice, but I’d say the Blues are definitely in trouble. I haven’t seen enough buy in and willing to pay the price for 60 mins. Parayko is terrible right now…no way he should be on the ice with the goalie pulled…puck looked like a live grenade on his stick.
If the Jets had Ehlers and Villardi this is likely a sweep.
Come on now, if the Blues had Holloway it might be 2-0 the other way. You're better than that, really.

Otherwise, they contained Thomas and Kyrou, Blues left Connor alone in the slot. It's not like the Blues are losing 4-1. Line matchups in St. Louis and a bit of crowd adrenaline could tip the scales. We'll see.
Dylan Holloway is a very good young player, but he’s not the reason it’s 2-0.
Really, now. You know this . . . How?

I was not whining over the Blues not having Holloway, I was pointing out the one-sided slant in the comment re: the absence of Ehlers and Villardi.
There is no slant , they are missing two of their top 6 players.
somni
Forum User
Posts: 2443
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:53 pm

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by somni »

STL fan in MN wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:17 pm
JoshInFenton wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:12 pm I can say after this one i wouldn't give Tucker another look unless we have an injured defensemen. He looked allergic to the puck at times, and the pressure of the big stage suddenly looked to swallow him up a few times over. I'd rather Kessel if we are going 7, but honestly just put joseph out there so we don't have to juggle lines so much.
I don’t get that move honestly. Was Joseph injured? Or maybe a d-man or two are dinged up and Monty wanted insurance on the blue line? Just don’t like going 11 and 7 unless absolutely necessary.

How in the doghouse must Texier be to still not get in? Either way, I hope they go back with the traditional 12 and 6 next game.

Blues lack of depth showing here..
Two theories out there:

The 3rd line wasn't producing much and Monty wanted to get his best players out there as much as possible. This move is also because he could ride Thomas, Kyrou, etc. because there is a 2 day break before game 3.

The other is what someone pointed out on this thread. And that's Parayko is still hurt and they need some insurance on D.

I wasn't opposed to it, but what it shows is how Holloway missing has affected the lines. And that describes the lack of depth the team has. Next year, you can shuffle some players and have Schenn on the 3rd line with hopefully better depth for the first 2 lines.
WilliamWestcliffe
Forum User
Posts: 103
Joined: 23 May 2024 17:46 pm

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by WilliamWestcliffe »

Montgomery needs to speak to why his teams so constantly have such a dramatic Jekyll and Hyde affect in pressure games.

These last two games specifically have had such a drastic difference between start and finish. They don’t even look like the same team from period one to three.

Don’t tell me it’s endurance. The signs of exhaustion would be obvious. All I’m seeing is a complete quit.
DawgDad
Forum User
Posts: 6664
Joined: 16 May 2019 10:58 am

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by DawgDad »

Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:33 pm
DawgDad wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:28 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:23 pm
DawgDad wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:22 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:14 pm The Jets are good…let’s not act like they aren’t a good team because of past failures. Right now their best players have been better then our best players. You are never in trouble until you lose on home ice, but I’d say the Blues are definitely in trouble. I haven’t seen enough buy in and willing to pay the price for 60 mins. Parayko is terrible right now…no way he should be on the ice with the goalie pulled…puck looked like a live grenade on his stick.
If the Jets had Ehlers and Villardi this is likely a sweep.
Come on now, if the Blues had Holloway it might be 2-0 the other way. You're better than that, really.

Otherwise, they contained Thomas and Kyrou, Blues left Connor alone in the slot. It's not like the Blues are losing 4-1. Line matchups in St. Louis and a bit of crowd adrenaline could tip the scales. We'll see.
Dylan Holloway is a very good young player, but he’s not the reason it’s 2-0.
Really, now. You know this . . . How?

I was not whining over the Blues not having Holloway, I was pointing out the one-sided slant in the comment re: the absence of Ehlers and Villardi.
There is no slant , they are missing two of their top 6 players.
And the Blues are missing one of their top-3. Fair is fair, why point out who they are missing and not the Blues? It's akin to posting how things might be different if the Blues had Holloway and their guys were still out.
sdaltons
Forum User
Posts: 2773
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:45 pm

Re: GDT: Blues at Jets 6:30 CBC, TVAS2, ESPN2, FDSNMW

Post by sdaltons »

WilliamWestcliffe wrote: 21 Apr 2025 21:38 pm Montgomery needs to speak to why his teams so constantly have such a dramatic Jekyll and Hyde affect in pressure games.

These last two games specifically have had such a drastic difference between start and finish. They don’t even look like the same team from period one to three.

Don’t tell me it’s endurance. The signs of exhaustion would be obvious. All I’m seeing is a complete quit.
Lol the president's trophy team that plays stifling defense is doing their thing. They are also bigger and physically punishing us. Quitting? Haha
Post Reply