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Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 14 Apr 2025 13:30 pm
by Shady
craviduce wrote: 14 Apr 2025 13:00 pm There's 3-4 weeks left in the regular season, depending on your conference. Then there's your Conference Tourney, Regionals, Super Regionals and CWS....About 7 weeks left. Then about 4-7 weeks till the draft, depending on your teams post season success.

Here's my Top 10 Draft Board:
Enjoy

1. Jamie Arnold, LHP, FSU
2. Seth Hernandez, RHP, Corona HS, Calif.
3. Ethan Holliday, Stillwater HS, Okla.
4. Gavin Kilen, 3B/2B/SS, Tennessee
5. Kyson Witherspoon, RHP, Oklahoma
6. Liam Doyle, LHP, Tennessee
7. Billy Carlson, SS, Corona HS, California
8. Kade Anderson, LHP, LSU
9. Eli Willits, SS, Ft. Cobb-Broxton, Okla.
10. Pico Kohn, LHP, Miss. State

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Note, this isn't a mock, it's a Draft Board....what I consider the Best Available Players

What are your thoughts, what does your draft board or wish list look like?
I'm not sure why LaViolette has fallen so much. He might have already been the #1 pick in the draft last season. I still feel it would be difficult for the Cardinals to pass on him at #5. They could sure use a power hitting outfielder to go along with Walker and Scott. Of course a future top of the rotation starting pitcher would be very appealing, as well.

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 14 Apr 2025 13:41 pm
by craviduce
craviduce wrote: 14 Apr 2025 13:00 pm There's 3-4 weeks left in the regular season, depending on your conference. Then there's your Conference Tourney, Regionals, Super Regionals and CWS....About 7 weeks left. Then about 4-7 weeks till the draft, depending on your teams post season success.

Here's my Top 10 Draft Board:
Enjoy

1. Jamie Arnold, LHP, FSU
2. Seth Hernandez, RHP, Corona HS, Calif.
3. Ethan Holliday, Stillwater HS, Okla.
4. Gavin Kilen, 3B/2B/SS, Tennessee
5. Kyson Witherspoon, RHP, Oklahoma
6. Liam Doyle, LHP, Tennessee
7. Billy Carlson, SS, Corona HS, California
8. Kade Anderson, LHP, LSU
9. Eli Willits, SS, Ft. Cobb-Broxton, Okla.
10. Pico Kohn, LHP, Miss. State

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Note, this isn't a mock, it's a Draft Board....what I consider the Best Available Players

What are your thoughts, what does your draft board or wish list look like?
I have Devin Taylor, Marek Houston and Aiva Arquette on the outside looking in.

Taylor on his way up. And Houston on his way down. He's lost well over 70 points in BA the last full month, with not much in the way of power. Arquette, I'm not impressed with the K rate vs. BB rate....he's not good enough with the bat to be a Top 10 pick.

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 11:32 am
by craviduce
the ever free of controversy, Keith Law , drops his his new Top 50 Draft prospect list....here's the Top 10. All of it is behind a pay wall, so I won't copy paste an entire article.

1. Ethan Holliday, SS/3B, Stillwater HS, Okla
2. Liam Doyle, LHP, Tennessee
3. Jamie Arnold, LHP, FSU
4. Aiva Arquette, SS/2B, Oregon St
5. Marek Houston, SS, Wake Forest
6. Gavin Kilen, 3B/2B/SS, Tennessee
7. Eli Willits, SS, Ft Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla
8. Kade Anderson, LHP, LSU
9. JoJo Parker, SS, Purvis HS, Mississippi
10. Billy Carlson, SS, Corona HS, Calif

14. Kyson Witherspoon, RHP, OU (OkU, Boomer Sooner)
21. Seth Herandez, RHP, Corona HS, Calif
25. Jace LaViolette, CF/LF/RF, Texas A&M


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Baseball America and Keith Law on the opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to Seth Hernandez....1st vs. 21st :roll: :roll:

Oh, Keith, you sweet summer child ::crazya::

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 11:34 am
by craviduce
craviduce wrote: 15 Apr 2025 11:32 am the ever free of controversy, Keith Law , drops his his new Top 50 Draft prospect list....here's the Top 10. All of it is behind a pay wall, so I won't copy paste an entire article.

1. Ethan Holliday, SS/3B, Stillwater HS, Okla
2. Liam Doyle, LHP, Tennessee
3. Jamie Arnold, LHP, FSU
4. Aiva Arquette, SS/2B, Oregon St
5. Marek Houston, SS, Wake Forest
6. Gavin Kilen, 3B/2B/SS, Tennessee
7. Eli Willits, SS, Ft Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla
8. Kade Anderson, LHP, LSU
9. JoJo Parker, SS, Purvis HS, Mississippi
10. Billy Carlson, SS, Corona HS, Calif

14. Kyson Witherspoon, RHP, OU (OkU, Boomer Sooner)
21. Seth Herandez, RHP, Corona HS, Calif
25. Jace LaViolette, CF/LF/RF, Texas A&M


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Baseball America and Keith Law on the opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to Seth Hernandez....1st vs. 21st :roll: :roll:

Oh, Keith, you sweet summer child ::crazya::
it's what is happening across the scouting industry for this draft....No definitive 1-1, and really no definitive Top 10....you are seeing more College Pitchers ascending (see my previous ranking)...I think this trend continues, and the College SS's drop out.

Gavin Kilen will likely stay, and his name will garner more and more attention....best college hitter in the draft

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 11:38 am
by Shady
craviduce wrote: 15 Apr 2025 11:34 am
craviduce wrote: 15 Apr 2025 11:32 am the ever free of controversy, Keith Law , drops his his new Top 50 Draft prospect list....here's the Top 10. All of it is behind a pay wall, so I won't copy paste an entire article.

1. Ethan Holliday, SS/3B, Stillwater HS, Okla
2. Liam Doyle, LHP, Tennessee
3. Jamie Arnold, LHP, FSU
4. Aiva Arquette, SS/2B, Oregon St
5. Marek Houston, SS, Wake Forest
6. Gavin Kilen, 3B/2B/SS, Tennessee
7. Eli Willits, SS, Ft Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla
8. Kade Anderson, LHP, LSU
9. JoJo Parker, SS, Purvis HS, Mississippi
10. Billy Carlson, SS, Corona HS, Calif

14. Kyson Witherspoon, RHP, OU (OkU, Boomer Sooner)
21. Seth Herandez, RHP, Corona HS, Calif
25. Jace LaViolette, CF/LF/RF, Texas A&M


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Baseball America and Keith Law on the opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to Seth Hernandez....1st vs. 21st :roll: :roll:

Oh, Keith, you sweet summer child ::crazya::
it's what is happening across the scouting industry for this draft....No definitive 1-1, and really no definitive Top 10....you are seeing more College Pitchers ascending (see my previous ranking)...I think this trend continues, and the College SS's drop out.

Gavin Kilen will likely stay, and his name will garner more and more attention....best college hitter in the draft
I hope both Hernandez and LaViolette are, indeed, available for the Cardinals at #5.

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 11:45 am
by craviduce
Carlos Collazo ranks Seth Hernandez #1 right now b/c of his National High School Invitational performance in North Carolina last weekend.

That was his 5th masterful performance against a Nationwide Top 10 team, this time it was a Complete Game 7 IP....on the biggest stage in Highschool Baseball

there's never been a HS RHP taken 1-1 the MLB draft, and only 2 in the last 10 years have gone Top 5....Hunter Greene and Jackson Jobe. The time usually spent on the prospect usually takes at least 5-7 years (so Collazo says)....Greene took nearly 7 years to develop, Jobe was 4 years to develop.

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 12:01 pm
by Monsieur De Treville
craviduce wrote: 15 Apr 2025 11:45 am Carlos Collazo ranks Seth Hernandez #1 right now b/c of his National High School Invitational performance in North Carolina last weekend.

That was his 5th masterful performance against a Nationwide Top 10 team, this time it was a Complete Game 7 IP....on the biggest stage in Highschool Baseball

there's never been a HS RHP taken 1-1 the MLB draft, and only 2 in the last 10 years have gone Top 5....Hunter Greene and Jackson Jobe. The time usually spent on the prospect usually takes at least 5-7 years (so Collazo says)....Greene took nearly 7 years to develop, Jobe was 4 years to develop.
Way, way too much risk in picking a high school pitcher with the 5th pick.

I'd much rather have a can't miss high school bat (if such a thing exists) or a college hitter who is maybe two years away from an mlb starter's position.

Still love the Wetherholt pick from last season and Davis is starting to look like a winner as well!

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 12:02 pm
by Monsieur De Treville
My hope is that somehow Holliday drops to #5.

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 12:09 pm
by craviduce
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 15 Apr 2025 12:01 pm
craviduce wrote: 15 Apr 2025 11:45 am Carlos Collazo ranks Seth Hernandez #1 right now b/c of his National High School Invitational performance in North Carolina last weekend.

That was his 5th masterful performance against a Nationwide Top 10 team, this time it was a Complete Game 7 IP....on the biggest stage in Highschool Baseball

there's never been a HS RHP taken 1-1 the MLB draft, and only 2 in the last 10 years have gone Top 5....Hunter Greene and Jackson Jobe. The time usually spent on the prospect usually takes at least 5-7 years (so Collazo says)....Greene took nearly 7 years to develop, Jobe was 4 years to develop.
Way, way too much risk in picking a high school pitcher with the 5th pick.

I'd much rather have a can't miss high school bat (if such a thing exists) or a college hitter who is maybe two years away from an mlb starter's position.

Still love the Wetherholt pick from last season and Davis is starting to look like a winner as well!
that's the industry standard....for the a 2 or 3 success stories, there's a truck load of failures. However, Hernandez stuff is looking like it's almost major league ready. The Changeup is perhaps the best in the pitching class, and his fastball is Mid to Upper 90's. His adjustment to pitching every 5 days from 7-8 days might be seamless, thus cutting his development nearly in half.....who knows? It's a risk, and the College Hitter is always more reliable....but there aren't many good college hitters worth a Number 5 pick. And there's reliever risk with some of your College Pitchers like Doyle and Witherspoon.

I'm actually fine with drafting Hernandez, I can't believe it, but I am....my Only hesitation is this....do the Cardinals have the developmental tools and coaching staff to support Hernandez...at this moment?

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 12:13 pm
by craviduce
craviduce wrote: 15 Apr 2025 12:09 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 15 Apr 2025 12:01 pm
craviduce wrote: 15 Apr 2025 11:45 am Carlos Collazo ranks Seth Hernandez #1 right now b/c of his National High School Invitational performance in North Carolina last weekend.

That was his 5th masterful performance against a Nationwide Top 10 team, this time it was a Complete Game 7 IP....on the biggest stage in Highschool Baseball

there's never been a HS RHP taken 1-1 the MLB draft, and only 2 in the last 10 years have gone Top 5....Hunter Greene and Jackson Jobe. The time usually spent on the prospect usually takes at least 5-7 years (so Collazo says)....Greene took nearly 7 years to develop, Jobe was 4 years to develop.
Way, way too much risk in picking a high school pitcher with the 5th pick.

I'd much rather have a can't miss high school bat (if such a thing exists) or a college hitter who is maybe two years away from an mlb starter's position.

Still love the Wetherholt pick from last season and Davis is starting to look like a winner as well!
that's the industry standard....for the a 2 or 3 success stories, there's a truck load of failures. However, Hernandez stuff is looking like it's almost major league ready. The Changeup is perhaps the best in the pitching class, and his fastball is Mid to Upper 90's. His adjustment to pitching every 5 days from 7-8 days might be seamless, thus cutting his development nearly in half.....who knows? It's a risk, and the College Hitter is always more reliable....but there aren't many good college hitters worth a Number 5 pick. And there's reliever risk with some of your College Pitchers like Doyle and Witherspoon.

I'm actually fine with drafting Hernandez, I can't believe it, but I am....my Only hesitation is this....do the Cardinals have the developmental tools and coaching staff to support Hernandez...at this moment?
it's going to come down to what each team is comfortable with...I'll understand if the Cards pass on Hernandez if he's available #5

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 13:32 pm
by billybaseball
I think the Rockies take Hernandez at 4 no matter who is on the board. Who else needs a generational type pitcher than the Rockies. I think his FB/CH combo could work better than most pitchers at Coors too.

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 13:40 pm
by DewittDaman11
I haven't seen Cannarella's name mentioned lately, wondering if he has lost favor in recent weeks. I still am hoping a great college pitcher shows his metal by draft day, and we get him at 5. Is Bremner still a possible good choice? I've got no problem with Hernandez, if he's really just a couple years away. I'm really starting to worry that this draft doesn't have enough sure fire top talent to get a relative sure thing on draft day. Say it ain't so!

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 13:45 pm
by craviduce
DewittDaman11 wrote: 15 Apr 2025 13:40 pm I haven't seen Cannarella's name mentioned lately, wondering if he has lost favor in recent weeks. I still am hoping a great college pitcher shows his metal by draft day, and we get him at 5. Is Bremner still a possible good choice? I've got no problem with Hernandez, if he's really just a couple years away. I'm really starting to worry that this draft doesn't have enough sure fire top talent to get a relative sure thing on draft day. Say it ain't so!
Bremner isn't having the best of years. His stuff still grades out well, but there really are better performances for college pitching. Now what's the key here is : Some teams draft off performance, some draft off 2-3 years of performance, some draft based off what they feel the player "will be". There's a big question mark across the board on the "Will Be"

College Pitchers that will likely rank/draft higher than Bremner... Arnold, Doyle, Witherspoon, and probably Anderson . I'm not sure about Pico Kohn, but I like the kid. I believe Witherspoon has passed Bremner as the best RHP pitcher.

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As for Cam Cann. , he'(poop) about .330 all season, but no power to speak of. There's lingering injury concerns regarding his shoulder, but nothing has been confirmed on that front. He's not using his speed for 2 straight seasons....he joins a long line of disappointing college bats this season. He might go Top 15 or Top 10 b/c a team will draft based off What the believe he "Will Be"....happens all the time, I think it happens more this draft b/c of all the "??"

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 13:53 pm
by craviduce
billybaseball wrote: 15 Apr 2025 13:32 pm I think the Rockies take Hernandez at 4 no matter who is on the board. Who else needs a generational type pitcher than the Rockies. I think his FB/CH combo could work better than most pitchers at Coors too.
Seattle has me concerned....they love to make trends....they're on that High School SS trend at the moment, but that might've ran its course. They used to draft college pitcher only before the HS SS trend. I think they start a new one...

HS pitchers. They have the R&D and Tool department to go ham on a pick like Hernandez

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And if the Rox draft Hernandez, he would need to really considering honoring his Vandy commitment . I wouldn't want to pitch in Denver

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 14:06 pm
by DewittDaman11
craviduce wrote: 15 Apr 2025 13:45 pm
DewittDaman11 wrote: 15 Apr 2025 13:40 pm I haven't seen Cannarella's name mentioned lately, wondering if he has lost favor in recent weeks. I still am hoping a great college pitcher shows his metal by draft day, and we get him at 5. Is Bremner still a possible good choice? I've got no problem with Hernandez, if he's really just a couple years away. I'm really starting to worry that this draft doesn't have enough sure fire top talent to get a relative sure thing on draft day. Say it ain't so!
Bremner isn't having the best of years. His stuff still grades out well, but there really are better performances for college pitching. Now what's the key here is : Some teams draft off performance, some draft off 2-3 years of performance, some draft based off what they feel the player "will be". There's a big question mark across the board on the "Will Be"

College Pitchers that will likely rank/draft higher than Bremner... Arnold, Doyle, Witherspoon, and probably Anderson . I'm not sure about Pico Kohn, but I like the kid. I believe Witherspoon has passed Bremner as the best RHP pitcher.

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As for Cam Cann. , he'(poop) about .330 all season, but no power to speak of. There's lingering injury concerns regarding his shoulder, but nothing has been confirmed on that front. He's not using his speed for 2 straight seasons....he joins a long line of disappointing college bats this season. He might go Top 15 or Top 10 b/c a team will draft based off What the believe he "Will Be"....happens all the time, I think it happens more this draft b/c of all the "??"
I guess the bottom line is that Flores has really got his work cut out for him this draft, finally getting a top 5 pick without a clear top 5 on the board. Ah, well, still better than picking 15-30, lol. I still have faith in him, with maybe a little extra help from Bloom. Gonna be fun.

Re: 2025 MLB Draft Room ~ Thread, Mocks, Discussion, Draft Boards

Posted: 15 Apr 2025 14:09 pm
by craviduce
DewittDaman11 wrote: 15 Apr 2025 14:06 pm
craviduce wrote: 15 Apr 2025 13:45 pm
DewittDaman11 wrote: 15 Apr 2025 13:40 pm I haven't seen Cannarella's name mentioned lately, wondering if he has lost favor in recent weeks. I still am hoping a great college pitcher shows his metal by draft day, and we get him at 5. Is Bremner still a possible good choice? I've got no problem with Hernandez, if he's really just a couple years away. I'm really starting to worry that this draft doesn't have enough sure fire top talent to get a relative sure thing on draft day. Say it ain't so!
Bremner isn't having the best of years. His stuff still grades out well, but there really are better performances for college pitching. Now what's the key here is : Some teams draft off performance, some draft off 2-3 years of performance, some draft based off what they feel the player "will be". There's a big question mark across the board on the "Will Be"

College Pitchers that will likely rank/draft higher than Bremner... Arnold, Doyle, Witherspoon, and probably Anderson . I'm not sure about Pico Kohn, but I like the kid. I believe Witherspoon has passed Bremner as the best RHP pitcher.

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As for Cam Cann. , he'(poop) about .330 all season, but no power to speak of. There's lingering injury concerns regarding his shoulder, but nothing has been confirmed on that front. He's not using his speed for 2 straight seasons....he joins a long line of disappointing college bats this season. He might go Top 15 or Top 10 b/c a team will draft based off What the believe he "Will Be"....happens all the time, I think it happens more this draft b/c of all the "??"
I guess the bottom line is that Flores has really got his work cut out for him this draft, finally getting a top 5 pick without a clear top 5 on the board. Ah, well, still better than picking 15-30, lol. I still have faith in him, with maybe a little extra help from Bloom. Gonna be fun.
that's sums it up perfectly, DD11.

We could go High upside SS all the way to 2 tool College hitter like Devin Taylor...he has the better Tools imo or the 2 tool crowd....which is Hit and Power. The College SS might not have the Hit, nor Power we crave in the Top 10 (exception being Kilen)