Page 3 of 4
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 08:39 am
by Cardinals4Life
RamFan08NY wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 22:17 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:44 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:41 pm
Some of you need to get a grip. Jesus.
+1 people are actually freaking out about game one of spring training including freaking out about the lineup of game one of spring training
Amen. I could not believe that some were complaining about the batting order, for a freaking exhibition game!
Anyone who knows just a tad bit about baseball knows that the guys they want guaranteed ABs are going to be higher up in the lineup. This place has turned in to an instant nut house, after one ST exhibition game!
I understand baseball and I understand wanting to get guys ABs early, but I also understand that is is very possible to construct a lineup that gets guys their ABs and also has some sense to it to allow those ABs to be competitive for the team. I don't care what kind of game it is, you should always have an itch to win (and certainly it isn't asking too much for a Major League manager to set his players/team up for success). Batting Pedro Pages in the 4 hole makes ZERO sense on any level.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 08:40 am
by Jeff Goldblum
CCard wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 19:59 pm
I'd get used to this line everyone. It's going to come up fairly often I fear.
The sooner you accept that they are going to be one of the worst teams in the league the better.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 08:41 am
by Cardinals4Life
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 22:23 pm
RamFan08NY wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 22:17 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:44 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:41 pm
Some of you need to get a grip. Jesus.
+1 people are actually freaking out about game one of spring training including freaking out about the lineup of game one of spring training
Amen. I could not believe that some were complaining about the batting order, for a freaking exhibition game!
Anyone who knows just a tad bit about baseball knows that the guys they want guaranteed ABs are going to be higher up in the lineup. This place has turned in to an instant nut house, after one ST exhibition game!
Yep like Winn if I want to get him a guaranteed 2 or 3 at bats But don’t want him playing a full 8 or 9 innings because I’m easing him back into play after surgery I’m batting him lead off you will get him the at bats you need him to get faster and pull him earlier. It has nothing to do with if oli thinks he’s the leadoff man of next season or not
Except that it does and Oli 100% is thinking that!
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 08:42 am
by CCard
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:18 pm
CCard wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 19:59 pm
I'd get used to this line everyone. It's going to come up fairly often I fear.
Fernandez and Matthew’s won’t even be on the opening day roster why should we get used to something that isn’t going to happen lol but if youre determined to complain about something the first meaningless game of spring training is certainly a good place to start. You probably believe spring training stats and records mean something also don’t you lol but of course if the cardinals win the next game you will of course say it means nothing
You have no idea who'll make the roster. Fernandez has been up and down with the club for a while now. He always seems to get hit. As for meaningless? Someone on here, was it you, said that it's important to these young players, but now that it flopped in the first game it really doesn't matter. LOL
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 08:42 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Seems nobody watches for the artistic beauty of the game. Poetry in motion. It’s all about the win.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 08:45 am
by CCard
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:34 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:31 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:18 pm
CCard wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 19:59 pm
I'd get used to this line everyone. It's going to come up fairly often I fear.
Fernandez and Matthew’s won’t even be on the opening day roster why should we get used to something that isn’t going to happen lol but if youre determined to complain about something the first meaningless game of spring training is certainly a good place to start. You probably believe spring training stats and records mean something also don’t you lol
Hope not but Fernandez was around for Way too much of last year against all logic. So why is he even here and in game 1 when we could be getting Doyle and that 2nd good prospect from the 25 draft some meaningless experience?
Secondly, Washington also pitched guys who won’t be on the MLB rosters and those guys no hit what’s left of our lineup. Maybe says a wee tiny bit about quality of depth.
It means something only to those who want it to mean something but if the cards win tomorrow you will say it’s spring training and means nothing lol now that’s a certainty lol
It doesn't "mean nothing". These young guys are trying to get noticed. It is however irrelevant in it's outcome to the regular season. But if you're young and you don't play well then you most likely won't see the regular season. Of course you can cherry pick what you like and cast aside the other outcomes, but then again...well....
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 08:48 am
by Cardinals4Life
Hoosier59 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 08:34 am
The people “ not “ complaining about the lineup are forgetting that it is Marmol making out these lineups! That has been one of the main issues against his management style. He doesn’t know how to properly construct a lineup to best utilize a players talent.
For example, batting Burleson in the #2 hole. Is there anyone here that believes that best suits his talents and athletic abilities? Spring training game or not Burly should never bat second. Let’s not pretend that Marmol hasn’t hit him here in past seasons either! Burly is too much of a free swinger, and is too slow of a base runner, which could clog up the base paths for speedier runners hitting behind him. Burly should be put in a “ run producing “ position, and not a run scoring position. Marmol doesn’t seem to understand this simple concept! I, for one, was hoping he would get smarter as the years go by, or that with Mo gone, maybe the lineup arrangements would be more logical, but putting Burly there again causes me to doubt anything will change at all! Spring training game or not!
Hoosier, you get it. This is 100% spot on! Of course we understand its Game 1 of ST. We understand that some guys play day 1, some don't. We understand that guys will get a a couple of ABs and then get pulled. That much is obvious.
What is also abundantly obvious is Mamrol's inability to ever put out a proper lineup. EVER. He simply doesn't understand it. Burly is not a 2 hole hitter. Pages is not a clean up hitter. Werherholt is not a 5 hole hitter. If he wants to try Winn at leadoff, fine. (He at least has some of the athletic skills to be there.) But again, probably a poor choice.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 08:50 am
by CCard
WeeVikes wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 21:31 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:44 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:41 pm
Some of you need to get a grip. Jesus.
+1 people are actually freaking out about game one of spring training including freaking out about the lineup of game one of spring training
Is it too soon to declare our season is over?
That was done last year. They planned to lose and that's what will happen.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 08:51 am
by CCard
RamFan08NY wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 22:12 pm
And we all know that once the regular season starts, all starters will continue to be pulled after 1 or 2 ABs, right?
I'll tell you what this rebuild is doing for sure, it without doubt is bringing the fair- weathered fans out in full force.
Also the deluded bootlickers. That taste of polish will take a while to get rid of.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 08:55 am
by CCard
RamFan08NY wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 22:17 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:44 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:41 pm
Some of you need to get a grip. Jesus.
+1 people are actually freaking out about game one of spring training including freaking out about the lineup of game one of spring training
Amen. I could not believe that some were complaining about the batting order, for a freaking exhibition game!
Anyone who knows just a tad bit about baseball knows that the guys they want guaranteed ABs are going to be higher up in the lineup. This place has turned in to an instant nut house, after one ST exhibition game!
Personally, this place has been a nuthouse for a long time. I posted the line on the game and that we'd probably see a line like that more often than not with this roster and the bootlickers come out like flies on roadkill. How dare I say something that might paint the team in a bad light! LOL...Yes, it's just one game and it is spring training, but somehow I expect that if they'd dominated and destroyed the opposition some of you would be posting about how Bloom is a genius and we're on our way.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 08:59 am
by rockondlouie
First spring game and we already have the blue print for the season?
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 09:00 am
by CCard
ramfandan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 22:45 pm
Well let's take a closer look .. to see if this 'sounds about right'
For the 3 total hits per game , well x 162 games that would equal 486 total hits for the year
Last year, the Cardinals had 1,331 hits and ranked 20 ...... the worst team hits Guardians hasd 1,199
Would the 2026 Cardinals have over 700 less hits than last year's worst team in baseball .. .LOL
That is just one team stat from today projected for 162 games . If you think this team is going to averge 2 runs per game for the season, you have not been following MLB ! Last year the Cardinals scored 689 runs 19th in MLB based on today's 2 runs that would project to 324 runs for the 2026 season .. so LESS THAN HALF of last year
Some people are getting a bit carried away thinking today's game will be typical for 2026 .
That kind of depends on what happens during the season. But you are averaging which is kind of deceptive. They have a game with 11 strikeouts and then a game with 5 that means they're averaging 8 a game, but they had 11 not 8. It's only one game but nobody in baseball is picking them to finish above .500 with this lineup. At least no one with any baseball sense. I like how the bootlickers come out in force though. At least they have that team spirit. Let's see how long it lasts.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 09:02 am
by CCard
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 08:42 am
Seems nobody watches for the artistic beauty of the game. Poetry in motion. It’s all about the win.
Yeah, that's a great sentiment and I partially agree with it, but that 11 strikeouts had no artistic beauty to it at all and sitting through and entire game to watch 3 hits is boring as hell.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 09:07 am
by sikeston bulldog2
CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 09:02 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 08:42 am
Seems nobody watches for the artistic beauty of the game. Poetry in motion. It’s all about the win.
Yeah, that's a great sentiment and I partially agree with it, but that 11 strikeouts had no artistic beauty to it at all and sitting through and entire game to watch 3 hits is boring as hell.
I hear ya. Your right even a good college football or basketball game is hard pressed to keep my attention. Three hours of what you describe is tough.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 09:42 am
by WeeVikes
CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 08:50 am
WeeVikes wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 21:31 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:44 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:41 pm
Some of you need to get a grip. Jesus.
+1 people are actually freaking out about game one of spring training including freaking out about the lineup of game one of spring training
Is it too soon to declare our season is over?
That was done last year. They planned to lose and that's what will happen.
I’d only quibble with one part of your point, and it may just be semantics, but I’d say they planned on a certain process for this season, and they’re content with the record being whatever the record was going to be. Record is secondary this season to building a stronger foundation for the future. Now, we can certainly debate whether that approach is wise, however, I think that’s different than planning to lose.
Again, I realize I’m picking nits.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Posted: 22 Feb 2026 11:23 am
by RamFan08NY
CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 08:55 am
RamFan08NY wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 22:17 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:44 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:41 pm
Some of you need to get a grip. Jesus.
+1 people are actually freaking out about game one of spring training including freaking out about the lineup of game one of spring training
Amen. I could not believe that some were complaining about the batting order, for a freaking exhibition game!
Anyone who knows just a tad bit about baseball knows that the guys they want guaranteed ABs are going to be higher up in the lineup. This place has turned in to an instant nut house, after one ST exhibition game!
Personally, this place has been a nuthouse for a long time. I posted the line on the game and that we'd probably see a line like that more often than not with this roster and the bootlickers come out like flies on roadkill. How dare I say something that might paint the team in a bad light! LOL...Yes, it's just one game and it is spring training, but somehow I expect that if they'd dominated and destroyed the opposition some of you would be posting about how Bloom is a genius and we're on our way.
No because in either case, players playing in half the game won't be with the team in April. Gotta keep everything in check, both highs and lows.