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Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 00:52 am
For those that think Marmol is that bad. That Marmol is the difference between a 70-92 team and a 92-70 team, who would you like him replaced with? Names. We need names.
1.) Never said he was the difference in those 2 records you posted, but he is BAD and consistently contributes to the L column. He probably loses more than he wins. Thsts a net negative.
Names?
Let's s start here:
Mike Schildt - Never should have been replaced by Marmol. Ridiculous.
Yadi
Albert
Tony Vitello
Carlos Beltran
Skip Shumaker
Patrick Anderson - yeah, I think our AA manager is better than Marmol.
-Any of the other 29 MLB managers.
-Almost any former MLB manager.
-There are certainly more.
This is childish and you know it. Grow up.
Childish? I answered the guy's question with names. And those that aren't specific names are 100% true. I stand by them.
It very much reads like a note a child writes to their parent after they made them eat vegetables and who they would rather have as parents. Stand by it if you like, but it's still childish.
Sorry you feel thay way about it, Mrs. Marmol!
(OK, now that was a little childish!
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OLI MARMOL IS THE WORST MANAGER EVER EVER IN MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL AND I NEVER WANT TO SEE HIM AGAIN.
See that? That's you.
Pretty much how I feel. A little over the top, but close.
He sucks. PERIOD. I've provided lots of reasons why in numerous other threads. He probably isnt the worst in the history of the game, but we are the Cardinals and we deserve a much better manager than Oliver Marmol. He isn't up to the standard.
So, maybe, just maybe you were more than a little full of bull. And no, that wasn't over the top. That was what you said in so many words.
Full of bull? Nope. I said "almost any former MLB manager". I stand by that. Sure there are oame exceptions, but I'd take most over Marmol.
Alright, I'll keep playing your game. Let's break it down.
Yadi, Albert, Vitello, Beltran: No MLB (or MILB) managing experience.
Patrick Anderson: No MLB managing experience. And you provide zero reason for why you think he's better than Marmol. Last year was only the second time in four seasons that he had a team above .500 in our system. In 5 MILB seasons, Marmol only had one losing season.
Any of the 29 other managers? Even the guys who did worse than us last year? Whatever Bozos they've got running Minnesota, White Sox, Pittsburgh, Washington, Colorado? What about the guy who manages the Mets? All that money and all that talent to get frog marched out of the play-offs.
And your INCREDIBLY lame "Almost any other former manager" or "there are certainly more."
And wait! There's more!
According to MLB.com, the team's expected record last season was 74-88. Our actual record was 78-84. But let me guess, the players were winning in spite of Marmol, right?
The year before that, again courtesy of MLB.com, our expected record was 76-86. And we ended up at 83-79.
The year before that, 71-91, which is what we finished at.
And in Marmol's first year, we were 93-69, which was a smidge under our expected W-L record at 95-67. The horror! Still seven games up on Milwaukee for in second place. A team that overachieved by one win.
But please, tell me about how this team sucks because of Marmol.